Thread: LucidDreamGod's DEILD/Chaining Lucid Dreams technique

Originally Posted by Denny22

I'm having trouble in waking up at the right time. Sometimes I wake up, don't move and inch, relax and nothing happens. Cuod it be too early in my sleep cycle?

Also, I find that if I have a distressing dream (but not a nightmare) I tend to realise that I'm waking up in my bed much faster than an average dream.

It might be because you aren't waking up in or near REM sleep which helps a lot when entering the dream. I've heard some people try to use an alarm device which turns it's self off very quickly so you don't have to move, and don't wake up to much, that could be something to try if you have the right alarm, or a computer by your bed.

Yes that is normal with nightmares.

Originally Posted by Smithy92

What's the water method - drinking litres of water, wouldn't that make me think of my bladder?
Anyway I'll try the somersault thingy tonight if I wake up.

i believe the water method mentioned is when you go to sleep thirsty and that will wake you up to do the DEILD.

Also - should I just do da somersault without thinking about the previous dream? I don't need to recall it at all?

Originally Posted by Smithy92

Also - should I just do da somersault without thinking about the previous dream? I don't need to recall it at all?

No, they always say that in DEILD but it has no reason behind it.

Originally Posted by LucidDreamGod

It might be because you aren't waking up in or near REM sleep which helps a lot when entering the dream. I've heard some people try to use an alarm device which turns it's self off very quickly so you don't have to move, and don't wake up to much, that could be something to try if you have the right alarm, or a computer by your bed.

Yes that is normal with nightmares.

Thanks very much, LDG.

Will try all this over the next few weeks. Thanks!

just an update and some advice:

this is one of the most useful techniques i've come across. thanks again LDG, i really appreciate it
for those of you having trouble, just relax, don't force a dream to come to you. remember you have to fall asleep to dream so don't stress if the dream doesn't come right away, in fact don't think about it too much, and you'll get there faster. there have been times when i was about to give up, but then i just relaxed and stopped worrying about it, and the dream solidified, and that's just what happened this morning. i didn't think a dream would come and it did once i let it happen.

so just let it happen

Originally Posted by Denny22

Thanks very much, LDG.

Will try all this over the next few weeks. Thanks!

No problem, good luck.

Originally Posted by ForgottenDream

just an update and some advice:

this is one of the most useful techniques i've come across. thanks again LDG, i really appreciate it
for those of you having trouble, just relax, don't force a dream to come to you. remember you have to fall asleep to dream so don't stress if the dream doesn't come right away, in fact don't think about it too much, and you'll get there faster. there have been times when i was about to give up, but then i just relaxed and stopped worrying about it, and the dream solidified, and that's just what happened this morning. i didn't think a dream would come and it did once i let it happen.

so just let it happen

Yes EXACTLY, I've done the same thing now that I think about it, I'll drift for a few moments and be ready to do it.

ldg

i read your post yesterday and tried the summer salt imagery and i was so surprised that it immediately provided me with my most recent, vivid dream recall. I had awoke and layed still but did not recall my dream until i used that imagery. It actually gave me a rush, which didnt help me go back to sleep quickly. But it was an amazing feeling.

Thanks

Originally Posted by jukie3

ldg

i read your post yesterday and tried the summer salt imagery and i was so surprised that it immediately provided me with my most recent, vivid dream recall. I had awoke and layed still but did not recall my dream until i used that imagery. It actually gave me a rush, which didnt help me go back to sleep quickly. But it was an amazing feeling.

Thanks

Summer Salt?
Sommersault.

i hope no points will be deducted for speling

Not at all mate. Its the internet, not english class.

I did however spend a minute wondering what summer salt was.
(beach visualisation maybe?) It was a head scratcher.
I kicked myself when I realised.

LDG spelled sommersault as summer salt in his original post aswell...
Maybe that confused him

i have winter pepper, no summer salt though

Originally Posted by SamJoe

LDG spelled sommersault as summer salt in his original post aswell...
Maybe that confused him

Yeah I realized that, honest mistake guys .

Dude your so right about the body clock's ability to wake you up when you want. It's happened to me plenty of times when I wanted to wake up at a certain time. This technique is amazing. Good job bro.

it sounds interesting , ill try to do it ! maybe it will end my dry spell! hopefully!

thanx so much I think this technique will suit me best, cause I have a habit of waking up in the middle of the night several times.
The only thing I need to practice is keeping my body from moving, and of course control over transitioning into dream.

ps. The sommersault thing gave me an idea of doing this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DN_dSvQD3OI (Street Fighter IV: Blanka Rolling attack)

as, Blanka is my favourite character I'm gonna impersonate him in my dream.
Hell yeah! Freaky crazy idea

Need Help! I can get to step 4 with ease. But would like a response from the LDGod. How do you re-enter the dream if youve reached the end of the rem period? (without using sound). I see trailing HI, which I can hold onto briefly (10 sec at best) by focusing on my non physical body (hands, sommersaulting, visualizing all senses etc.) But it fades. I so want to grasp this technique, but need tutilage. I feel im missing something.

Did you try kind of letting yourself zone out for a moment, sometimes it helps to just have it planed out that your going to just zone out as if your going back to sleep, but check on yourself a minute or so later, similar to how the FILD technique works.

I'll give it a shot and post the results. Thanks for the reply. Forgive my newbieism, but whats the f for in FILD?

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Originally Posted by LucidDreamGod

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Ive been trying to do this tech. along with the fild tech. I can get to the sleep paralysis part easily, but in making the transition, I seem to just blackout. The next moment I awaken seeing the trailing hyp. imagery, and recalling a non lucid dream. What am I missing? How come I blackout as opposed to transitioning? Its happened at every single attempt.

Maybe try to wake up a little more before FILDing, maybe go use the bathroom or something. The transition is supposed to be kind of unnoticed, I think you have to find that balance where your awake enough to not just black out, yet not soo awake where the transition won't happen. If your blacking out during DEILD then you might have to work at keeping your mind awake, but not too much. Usually if deild is successful I can achieve it with in 10-20 seconds.

This isn't working for me. I lie there still with my eyes closed for ten minutes after waking from my dream and I hear its not supposed to take that long and absolutely nothing happens. Its so frustrating please help. I get frustrated since I know its not working but technically im doing nothing wrong am I missing something?