This forum makes me sad. (My tragic story.)

[Forrest]

This forum makes me sad. As you can see from my dichotomous signature (as of this writing), I like that song and have had zero LD's, despite almost a year of knowledge of LD's in general. This forum makes me sad because despite all I read about WILDs and DILDs most recently DEILDS and blah blah blah you can imagine the rest of the story. I'm really pissed off about my lack of skillz, and it's getting really annoying. I also cannot sleep on my back. I don't remember where I read that that is the best way to sleep, but I can't do it. I do not fall asleep even after lying there forever. I guess I'll continue browsing these forums. Maybe you nice people have some advice for me. NEW INFORMATION AND EDITING AFTER THIS EYE-CATCHING ALL-CAPS STATEMENT I made this yesterday, and thanks to everyone for their responses. I do keep a dream journal, which I can write in if i wake up right after a dream ends. But I don't wake up at night after dreams, which is another skill that is apparently useful.

[Supernaut]

Believing you cannot lucid dream will be a huge problem. The key is being familiar with the dream state. Do you remember your dreams often? Once you are familiar with dreams then lucid dreaming becomes easy.

[punkstar]

post on the forums more. so you can get more personal feedback. if you keep a dreamjournal EVERYTIME U SLEEP, u wont be far from having multiple entries each night, where lucid dreaming becomes much more possible and easy. if u ask me, a dream journal you write in daily is a must when trying to lucid dream ... hope i could help.

[seeker28]

That's got to suck! You have to believe you can LD if you ever want to. Try to get rid of that attitude. Take a look at the tutorials, keep a DJ, do RCs... Gah, sorry. You've probably heard it all. But really, those things are the best way to get lucid. If you've been working really hard at getting a LD for a long time, take a break. Do something else. Think about something else. That is usually all it takes for a LD to happen. Other than that, keep your hopes up. We're rooting for you. Ask any and all questions you have. PM me or one of the other staff for help. DV cares!

[Schmaven]

The way you fall asleep, (on your side, on your stomach, on your back, w/e) is just personal preference. I can't fall asleep on my back either, I'm a side / stomach sleeper. But all it takes to fall asleep on your back is determination. Just stick with it, keep trying to fall asleep on your back and it will get easier in time. The same goes for having lucid dreams. Before I found this site, I had 1 lucid dream a year that I remember, now I'm up to a few a month! Just hang in there, you'll get it eventually. The more you have to try for it, the sweeter it'll be once you finally have it. Another thing that helps with lucid dreaming is having motivation / being excited to have lucid dreams. For that, I'd suggest looking at things people have done in their lucid dreams (the dream journal section is great for that) Or any of the other countless lucid dream idea threads.

[Snowy Egypt]

This forum makes me sad. As you can see from my dichotomous signature (as of this writing), I like that song and have had zero LD's, despite almost a year of knowledge of LD's in general. This forum makes me sad because despite all I read about WILDs and DILDs most recently DEILDS and blah blah blah you can imagine the rest of the story. I'm really pissed off about my lack of skillz, and it's getting really annoying. I also cannot sleep on my back. I don't remember where I read that that is the best way to sleep, but I can't do it. I do not fall asleep even after lying there forever. I guess I'll continue browsing these forums. Maybe you nice people have some advice for me. Well, for one, everyone has there own way of sleeping. There's no best way, so find the one that's right for you. And now, a few questions... 1) How many times have you tried each of the techniques you mentioned? 2) Do you keep a DreamJournal? 3) How many dreams do you remember each night on average? 4) Have you thought about getting adopted? (I ask this because many members have found success when paired up with a mentor.) This was mentioned before, but it's better to emphasize this point; Believing you cannot lucid dream will be a huge problem. You must keep your spirits up. Trust me; self-motivation is a HUGE component of Lucid Dreaming. Like seeker28 said, don't hesitate to ask questions. EDIT: Darn you people above me for posting before I could!!!!!

[Jamoca]

Sometimes I tell my friends a little about lucid dreams and sleep paralysis, and the next day the call me telling me of their success. I believe that this is because they never read about how impossible it was to WILD, DILD etc. You need to believe in yourself, that you can do it. Don't think about that fact that you haven't had a lucid dream yet, because now you are going to have a lucid dream. Good luck!

[games2007]

I use like 2-3 pillows against my headboard and sleep on them that way. That helps me fall asleep back up =D

[DreamChaser]

Well, for one, everyone has there own way of sleeping. There's no best way, so find the one that's right for you. And now, a few questions... 1) How many times have you tried each of the techniques you mentioned? 2) Do you keep a DreamJournal? 3) How many dreams do you remember each night on average? 4) Have you thought about getting adopted? (I ask this because many members have found success when paired up with a mentor.) This was mentioned before, but it's better to emphasize this point; Believing you cannot lucid dream will be a huge problem. You must keep your spirits up. Trust me; self-motivation is a HUGE component of Lucid Dreaming. Like seeker28 said, don't hesitate to ask questions. EDIT: Darn you people above me for posting before I could!!!!! All true. Maybe get back to basics. I found I read and wanted to do stuff I read here, but was not ready then and was not up to that stage. Use the dream journal and start from scratch and keep trying from that stage. Don't move forward till you have mastered a stage toward lucidity. Many people like you and myself, aren't natural LD'ers and have to work at it. I can tell you if you go slow, believe and move step by step, you will get there.

[exileblue]

wow... have the same problem... I'm trying to LD for more than 1 1/2 years and had one very short one... with the same problems as mentioned above .

[imj]

This forum makes me sad. As you can see from my dichotomous signature (as of this writing), I like that song and have had zero LD's, despite almost a year of knowledge of LD's in general. This forum makes me sad because despite all I read about WILDs and DILDs most recently DEILDS and blah blah blah you can imagine the rest of the story. I'm really pissed off about my lack of skillz, and it's getting really annoying. I also cannot sleep on my back. I don't remember where I read that that is the best way to sleep, but I can't do it. I do not fall asleep even after lying there forever. I guess I'll continue browsing these forums. Maybe you nice people have some advice for me. It's not skill it's your thinking. Something to do with it..I can't really put it into words but I'm having this phenomenon happening to me. I used to be able to DILD for a while then it stopped. Even when I try the same technique it never worked again. I believe it's my thinking that has shifted. It has blocked out reality for some reason, I know because it feels different, even the attitude toward LDing has changed. Before it used to be maybe I am dreaming or what if I was dreaming...now it's just I want to LD and do XYZ. So maybe it is your attitude toward LDing that is not conducive..... If that is the case then you'd have to custom make those techniques in the tutorials to suit your thinking like instead of actually doing the checks, just keep it in thought form, an impression until you actually sleep maintaining that impression/thought of reality checks...kinda like a WILD. Gave me a short LD and other LD related dreams...it's easy. IMJ

[apachama]

This forum makes me sad. As you can see from my dichotomous signature (as of this writing), I like that song and have had zero LD's, despite almost a year of knowledge of LD's in general. This forum makes me sad because despite all I read about WILDs and DILDs most recently DEILDS and blah blah blah you can imagine the rest of the story. I'm really pissed off about my lack of skillz, and it's getting really annoying. I also cannot sleep on my back. I don't remember where I read that that is the best way to sleep, but I can't do it. I do not fall asleep even after lying there forever. I guess I'll continue browsing these forums. Maybe you nice people have some advice for me. Don't worry about it. There's more to dreaming than Lucid dreaming, take what you can out of dreams, not what you can note and respect them. They may grow more healthy. They might not. But beating yourself up because you haven't been able to experience a certain thing isn't healthy.

[SKA]

This forum makes me sad. As you can see from my dichotomous signature (as of this writing), I like that song and have had zero LD's, despite almost a year of knowledge of LD's in general. This forum makes me sad because despite all I read about WILDs and DILDs most recently DEILDS and blah blah blah you can imagine the rest of the story. I'm really pissed off about my lack of skillz, and it's getting really annoying. I also cannot sleep on my back. I don't remember where I read that that is the best way to sleep, but I can't do it. I do not fall asleep even after lying there forever. I guess I'll continue browsing these forums. Maybe you nice people have some advice for me. Let me tell you something about Lucid Dreaming. I am what they call "a natural" having developed lucid dreaming as a skill in early childhood as a sort of defence mechanism against the VERY bad dreams I had back then. STILL when consciously trying to induce LDs I'm rarely successfull. Am I sad? no Am I frustrated? No I have been before, but I realised Lucid Dreaming is a Delicacy. An extra in Life. It's like going without a dessert: You had your dinner and enjoyed it. If you get no dessert you can still be happy about dinner. Meaning to say having a Lucid Dream is a cause for Joy, NOT having a Lucid Dream is NO cause for frustration. See it as I see it lately: It's a process to learn to WILD for instance. Everynight you TRY to stay aware long enough for the Dream to start but FAIL, is a gradual improvement. You progress. It's a training for the big day(or night). The more nights you try, the more you strengthen your awareness untill some day you will DEFENITELY reach deep pre-dream states (like me now) and soon thereafter the Dreamstate fully consciously.

[adraw]

This forum makes me sad. As you can see from my dichotomous signature (as of this writing), I like that song and have had zero LD's, despite almost a year of knowledge of LD's in general. This forum makes me sad because despite all I read about WILDs and DILDs most recently DEILDS and blah blah blah you can imagine the rest of the story. I'm really pissed off about my lack of skillz, and it's getting really annoying. I also cannot sleep on my back. I don't remember where I read that that is the best way to sleep, but I can't do it. I do not fall asleep even after lying there forever. I guess I'll continue browsing these forums. Maybe you nice people have some advice for me. I can clearly imagine myself writing here in dreamviews for the first time. It was always full with emotion. Everything was so intense. Now. As i have more experience. I dont take it as hard. You will soon develop your own techniques and skills and you will gradually feel much better about lucid dreaming. Just knowing you have the abílity is enough to reassure you, that with enough effort you will be eventually successfull. So head up, and enjoy.

[Robot_Butler]

Like Snowy Egypt suggested, check out the adoption forum. Maybe partnering up with someone will help you get back to a fresh and positive view. What are you doing specifically on a day to day basis?

[LucidFreedoM]

I believe that absolutely everyone has the ability to have *consistent* lucid dreams. If you've never LDed before tho, WILDing is probably not your best option. Theres probably no advice anyone can give you that you havnt already read about. If it makes you feel any better, Ive had a total of 3 seconds of lucidity thus far in my life. Id advice you to take a break. Completely forget about lucid dreaming all together. After a month or so, come back with a fresh start. Who knows, maybe during a break you might be surprised with an LD or two, just because your not thinking about it. Our brains seem to work in weird ways like that.

[Exhalent]

I gave up on Lucid dreaming for a couple of months and had a few. Those few are what got be back into Lucid dreaming again. Just take a break!

[warock]

This forum makes me sad. As you can see from my dichotomous signature (as of this writing), I like that song and have had zero LD's, despite almost a year of knowledge of LD's in general. This forum makes me sad because despite all I read about WILDs and DILDs most recently DEILDS and blah blah blah you can imagine the rest of the story. I'm really pissed off about my lack of skillz, and it's getting really annoying. I also cannot sleep on my back. I don't remember where I read that that is the best way to sleep, but I can't do it. I do not fall asleep even after lying there forever. I guess I'll continue browsing these forums. Maybe you nice people have some advice for me. I cant sleep on my back either... The Key is to believe, is you think you cant lucid dream, then you wont I know a year of practice without success can be discouraging but stay positive

[MAXxyz]

I can tell you that you are not alone. Reading this thread made me look into my DJ to see how long time i took for me to have my first lucid. It took me 14 long months to get just a few sucky seconds of lucidity. And looking at all the newbies on this forum, having their first LD after a few weeks or so just made it even more painful to wait for an LD to come. Now a couple of years later, my LD count has risen to 24 i think. And most of them has come after i stopped writing in my DJ. I have no reason to believe that i will ever stop having lucids ever again no matter how little i do to have them. If you continue to think about your dreams and perhaps read a little on DV sometimes, i am convinced that you too will have LDs someday. Trust me, they are worth the wait

[EVIL JOE]

Over two years for me. Then again, I haven't actually been trying that hard and I stopped trying at all during this last school year. Recently I have been trying harder, though. I know that I'll have an LD eventually. Maybe very soon.

[transflux]

You overintellectualize everything, you are too emotional and self-occupied. You are the center of everything. That's why you fail. You take everything personal and your little self gets pissed off about your lack of progress. You try to improve on things you don't even have experience about. You have this I want it I want it I want it attitude because you used to get everything your heart desire. You are too emotional with miserable attention spam. You jump from method to method named after four letter abbreviations. And you take my post personal, too because you are the center of everything and you think I'm insulting you. That's why you fail spectacularly. You should learn to connect your self. Learn to be silent and everything falls into place. But you wouldn't do that because it's too simple.

[transflux]

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