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      Quote Originally Posted by Chevaughn View Post
      But if I put my attention into HI, would't that keep my mind too awake?
      The thing is, you have to work it out for yourself. It varies from person to person. As it's not something i can explain exactly how much awareness you put into it, you have to experiment with it. As they say, practice makes perfect ^__^
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      Quote Originally Posted by fOrceez View Post
      The thing is, you have to work it out for yourself. It varies from person to person. As it's not something i can explain exactly how much awareness you put into it, you have to experiment with it. As they say, practice makes perfect ^__^
      OK.
      I was reading about how you can think about random pictures (or illogical thoughts), and the brain would take over and start creating images [HI] (or illogical thoughts).
      Can this easily be done? Do I have to be very sleepy?

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      Quote Originally Posted by Chevaughn View Post
      OK.
      I was reading about how you can think about random pictures (or illogical thoughts), and the brain would take over and start creating images [HI] (or illogical thoughts).
      Can this easily be done? Do I have to be very sleepy?
      You'll find that if you lay down right now and close your eyes, you will see brief patterns, whether they just look like shadows in darkness, or a white light (as long as there's not a huge light glare at you, like the sun or a bright light), I would call that HI.
      From my WILD last night, I woke up and just focused on the 'white light' 'behind my eyelids' and went straight into a dream. If you're interested in reading about the dream itself, click here
      But to directly answer your question, that's hard to say. I find it hard, but that's not to say it will be hard for you. If you're to think about random pictures, I would still experiment with the WBTB e.g. wake up for 5 minutes, try this series of random pictures method and see how it goes. If you fall asleep, that means you need to either maintain your awareness better, or that you need to make your WBTB longer.
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      Quote Originally Posted by fOrceez View Post
      You'll find that if you lay down right now and close your eyes, you will see brief patterns, whether they just look like shadows in darkness, or a white light (as long as there's not a huge light glare at you, like the sun or a bright light), I would call that HI.
      I never see anything when I close my eyes.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Chevaughn View Post
      I never see anything when I close my eyes.
      I'm the same way, however I don't know if you're supposed to physically be seeing it in front of you, or be more like a day dream. You know those moments where you're day dreaming and you imagine this crazy world only to come to the sudden realization: "...was I always staring at this wall?". When I daydream I don't actually see the stuff infront of my eyes but supposedly I can see it where the 3rd eye normally is.

      I could be wrong though, maybe we are supposed to see some sort of physical imagery where the back of our eyelids are and I'm just failing at it hard.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Chevaughn View Post
      I never see anything when I close my eyes.
      It's not supposed to come immediately. HI usually sets in when SP sets it, sometimes later, sometimes earlier. Experiment with your SP.
      @Firebat : It varies. Sometimes you see the beginning of a dream scene, and it's like you're standing in a totally different place. Just keep at it, guys Not everyone gets strong HI like scenes. I know I don't, only when I'm really, really close to entering a dream, and with that said, most of the time I go straight into a dream without seeing that much HI at all.
      As I've mentioned before, WILD requires so much dedication to get it right. I'm (hopefully) starting to perfect mine now, as I'm starting to understand what works for me. Hopefully I am, and if I do, i may update my dream journal about what i've found out.
      By the way, have you two read Mzzkc's Why You Fail At WILDs? Some great stuff there.
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      Quote Originally Posted by fOrceez View Post
      It's not supposed to come immediately. HI usually sets in when SP sets it, sometimes later, sometimes earlier. Experiment with your SP.
      OK. Do you have any tips on falling asleep while focusing on the anchor? I find that when I am drifting off and remember my anchor, I get a sudden "shock" into awareness, and this makes me feel very aware. To me, it feels like it can either be one or the other; that is, falling asleep or focusing on my anchor.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Chevaughn View Post
      OK. Do you have any tips on falling asleep while focusing on the anchor? I find that when I am drifting off and remember my anchor, I get a sudden "shock" into awareness, and this makes me feel very aware. To me, it feels like it can either be one or the other; that is, falling asleep or focusing on my anchor.
      This is how I feel.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Chevaughn View Post
      OK. Do you have any tips on falling asleep while focusing on the anchor? I find that when I am drifting off and remember my anchor, I get a sudden "shock" into awareness, and this makes me feel very aware. To me, it feels like it can either be one or the other; that is, falling asleep or focusing on my anchor.
      Relax. Let SP do it's thing. Just relax further and further and further..
      Like i said above, if you fall asleep really easily, make your WBTB time a little longer. If you find you're not falling asleep quickly, but you're falling asleep, you need to put more awareness into your anchor. Ontop of this, you need to find your sleep cycles. This will be for example, if you sleep at midnight and wake up at 6 (assuming your cycle is about 1.5 hours) then set your alarm to about 5:30, or however long you need to prepare yourself for the WILD. The aim of this is to be awake before REM finishes. Keep in mind you also have to WILD into REM.

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