Thread: WILD'ing Question

I'm going to do a WILD tomorrow morning if my usual MILD doesn't work. What's the best technique that keeps you focused yet lets you fall asleep?

Originally Posted by mini0991

I'm going to do a WILD tomorrow morning if my usual MILD doesn't work. What's the best technique that keeps you focused yet lets you fall asleep?

These are the steps to my WILD technique:

1. Devote at least 2 hours (or more) to WILDing.

2. Remember your goal (where you want to go, what you want to do, etc).

3. Dismiss any other thoughts and focus only on taking slow, deep breaths.

4. Remain COMPLETELY still, no matter what.

5. Try to steer clear of straying/abstract thoughts when entering SP (random/abstract thoughts means that the logical part of your brain is falling asleep, dont let it!). (they can also cause you to enter a non-Lucid Dream which would make all this work was for nothing!)

6. Dont fight or resist SP in any way / stay relaxed and calm when it begins to happen.

7. Continue to focus only on your (slow, deep) breathing as vibrations, Hypnagogic Imagery, and auditory hallucinations become more intense from SP.

(you can focus on and/or visualize your goal once you think you've got the breathing part down packed).

8. Continue step 7 until you feel that sudden rush of falling through your bed or through the ceiling (in my case); this should mean that SP is complete, and hence you are ready to dream.

9. If you are not already in a dream scene, then spin around or rub your hands together (or both) in order to conjure up one. Doing this can also stabilize a fading/blurry dream scene.

There you have it, those are pretty much all the steps I take when Im attempting a WILD. And if it doesnt work the first time, remember that it takes time so dont give up! I know it seems like a lot, but once you've been through it many times, you will become better and better at it.

Originally Posted by baseballmk92

Well, last night I was again unsuccessful trying to WILD, but something odd did happen anyway during my sleep. I was dreaming about something (I don't know exactly what), and I think I was moving in the dream in some way, then suddenly I hit my real life head against the wall and woke up.

That's exactly what sleep paralysis is supposed to prevent, right?

This happens to me too from time to time. I'll be moving in the dream and in reality my arms mimic the motion. So apparently sometimes we're a bit less paralyzed, but it's still enough to keep us from getting up and walking around.

Originally Posted by WolfeDreamer531

So if anybody WILDs w/o WBTBs frequently, I would like to know.

I WILD regularly without WBTB. I wouldn't call it frequent; WBTB is far more reliable. Most people report that they can't WILD at the beginning of the night, but being sleep deprived makes it easier.

Originally Posted by WolfeDreamer531

1. Devote at least 2 hours (or more) to WILDing.

That is a long time. Do you stay still for the whole 2 hours?

Originally Posted by AlexLou

That is a long time. Do you stay still for the whole 2 hours?

Actually, the very first time I successfully WILDed, it did take me that long (or longer) to fall back asleep, so yeah I kept still for that long; I just didnt give up on it, lol.

But now it usually takes me about 45 minutes to fall back asleep if Im lucky, that is. So I devote at least 2 hours just so I wont get anxious and worry about the time like I usually do.

Originally Posted by AlexLou

I WILD regularly without WBTB.

Yeah I didnt mean to do it yesterday but when I began to enter SP I just went along w/ it. Im going to try it again tonight.
It seemed like it wasnt very clear tho, everything was kind of blurry

How are your WILDs like w/o the WBTB?

Please someone tell me what WILD is!

Can someone please explain to me what WILD is??

Sorry i commented twice. Anyways I'm not good with acronyms. So I'm having trouble with understanding this. : )

Originally Posted by calicofall

Sorry i commented twice. Anyways I'm not good with acronyms. So I'm having trouble with understanding this. : )

Wake-Initiated-Lucid-Dream.
Go to the tutorial section.

Here's the Acronym List

Originally Posted by WolfeDreamer531

It seemed like it wasnt very clear tho, everything was kind of blurry

How are your WILDs like w/o the WBTB?

Very clear usually. They produce, um, high-functioning lucidity.

Originally Posted by AlexLou

Very clear usually. They produce, um, high-functioning lucidity.

Ok. I thought that you didnt get dreams as clear in the non-REM stages as you do in the REM stage. I guess I didnt try too hard when it came to trying to stabilize the dream when I come to think about it.

Another thing, have you ever remained asleep the entire night after you WILDed?

Originally Posted by WolfeDreamer531

Another thing, have you ever remained asleep the entire night after you WILDed?

I have no way of knowing. I'd just forget. My dream-memory only goes back about 3 hours max.

Well it sounds like you nailed it.

Originally Posted by WolfeDreamer531

2. Remember your goal (where you want to go, what you want to do, etc).

Originally Posted by WolfeDreamer531

(you can focus on and/or visualize your goal once you think you've got the breathing part down packed).

Visualizing your goal is what I do once I feel the onset of SP, so I guess that VILDing is apart of my WILD technique; I dont think I stressed the importance of the visualizing part of the WILD tech., so Im going to add to that above. It helps to block out the straying/abstract thoughts from taking over; that's why its very important to have a goal and, most importantly, remember it.

Originally Posted by mini0991

The deep breaths alone caused my mind to wander a lot, so I tried counting along with taking deep breaths. Somewhere between 40 and my LD I can't remember what happened. What I think happened was I got very relaxed and tired, my mind strayed, and that kind of did a DEILD or VILD.

So it seems like you entered a dream scene through one of your (abstract) thoughts. That can be a major kicker when trying to WILD sometimes; that's why its important to remember your goal and not get sidetracked by your straying thoughts.

But its good that you realized that you were dreaming immediately. Thats exactly how it was for me when I first WILDed: I began having abstracts thoughts about random things while attempting to WILD, then ended up being "in" one of those thoughts!

Out of curiosity, do you know about how long it took you to fall asleep/enter the dream scene?

(its alright if you dont, I really never know b/c forgetting the time is part of the process)

Originally Posted by pinacoladaxb

How did to time how long it took you to fall asleep if you have to keep your eyes closed and remain perfectly still?

Originally Posted by WolfeDreamer531

On a good day I can get it in about 45 minutes maybe. Sometimes it takes longer, but if you practice this then you will become used to remaining perfectly still.

You misunderstood me. I said "how did you time how long it took," not "how much time does it take."
In other words, how did you know how long it took you to fall asleep if you have to keep your eyes closed and remain perfectly still?

But never mind. You don't have to answer that question.

I tried WILD'ing 2 times last night. The first time I accidentally drifted into sleep. The second time I got pretty close, but my back started to hurt from the position I was laying in so I had to move.

Originally Posted by pinacoladaxb

I tried WILD'ing 2 times last night. The first time I accidentally drifted into sleep. The second time I got pretty close, but my back started to hurt from the position I was laying in so I had to move.

Now a lot of times, your body will do that to you. Your body was testing to see if you were still awake. I know this sounds like BS, but its true. Think about it, had you been asleep (unconscious) then you wouldnt have reacted to the pain like you did b/c you wouldnt have been consciously able to. Thats how your body knew you were still awake (conscious), as a result, didnt proceed into SP. Why would our bodies do this? My guess is that they simply dont want us to be awake/conscious when we go to sleep. Why? Your guess is as good as mine.
Ive noticed this too when I first started WILDing. The only way I got around this was to find a position that is not the least bit awkward. What I mean by that is to keep everything straight/even pressure wise (e.g. dont lean over on one side farther than the other) or else it can cause nerve compression. If you said your back was hurting, maybe it did so b/c it wasnt completely straight. When attempting a WILD, make sure every last part of your body is as comfortable (or balanced) as possible.

If you have an injury (maybe to your back) then you have to make sure that "that" particular part of your body is COMPLETELY relaxed (w/o pressure), or else your body will exploit your sleep positioning flaws through pain or high uncomfortable levels. For example, I had a bad injury to my heal (calcaneus fracture) when I first began WILDing. So when I attempted to WILD on my back (pressure being on my heal), the pain in my heal would resurface as I neared SP and literally force me to get up and reposition myself to my side (off of my heal).

It is also usually a good thing to WILD in positions your not used to sleeping in so you wont drift off to sleep. Try getting comfortable in uncomfortable sleep positions when attempting a WILD. For example, I normally sleep on my side, so in the case of a WILD, I sleep on my back. At first, it was really uncomfortable, but now Ive kind of gotten somewhat used to it.

But I spent a good 10 minutes making sure I was in the most comfortable position before attempting the WILD. I'll just try again.

Originally Posted by pinacoladaxb

But I spent a good 10 minutes making sure I was in the most comfortable position before attempting the WILD. I'll just try again.

There you go; dont give up, you'll get it, man.