Since I've registered, I figured I could post here and see if anybody can give me some pointers on what I'm doing wrong exactly. Let me give a little backround first, since hearing about LDing, it seemed that WILD was THE way to go, since it seemed to be more controllable than DILD. At first, I was SUPER excited about the concept of LDing, and tried hard for like a week to have one, but I was inexperienced and couldn't calm down whenever I tried due to excitement, and we all know excitement is the last thing you want trying to LD, so I had no success.

At the end of the week when I first began trying, I kind of gave up and forgot about LDing. Bumping up to speed now, a couple of months later (3 or 4), I got back into LDing, and really into it, I've kept DJ's, tried WILDing almost every night I wake up, and without fail, I can't seem to have a WILD.

I'll be laying there, perfectly calm, nice slow breathing, and I'll feel like I'm becoming really heavy, but after that, nothing! I could sit there for 20 minutes and not feel anything at all, there have been 2 or 3 occasions when I'll start getting vibrations, and once very early in where I think I had a WILD, but that is it. Could anyone tell me what I am doing wrong? I've read every guide, followed all manners of advice, and nothing seems to be working

If anybody can give me an idea of what I'm doing wrong so I can WILD, I'd be in your debt! Thank you.

Edit; the only thing I can think of that I'm doing wrong is that I'm waking up to try at the wrong times. I'll go to bed anywhere from 10:00 to 11:00, and wake up anywhere from 3:30 to 5:00 every night, when I wake up, half the time I'll try and WILD, half the time I won't. When I do try, perhaps I am just too darned sleepy? Should I splash my face with water to wake up completely, or will that harm my chances?