Thread: Finally, A 10 second lucid induction! Title -*MFG*

Originally Posted by malac

I Challenge someone to make a technique faster than this.

Ever heard of FILD?

haha but anyway, this sounds like it could work. I'll give it a few weeks and see how it goes...

Sounds very interesting. I'm currently trying other stuff right now, but when I get a chance, I may just have to try this =]]

Sounds like a good technique, but there's something I don't get.

When you grab the object, are you supposed to be visualizing something that, in reality, is close to your bed so you can grab it, or do you only reach out your "real" hand, but don't actually grab anything physically because there's nothing there?

Did that make any sense?

Originally Posted by dcs82009

Sounds like a good technique, but there's something I don't get.

When you grab the object, are you supposed to be visualizing something that, in reality, is close to your bed so you can grab it, or do you only reach out your "real" hand, but don't actually grab anything physically because there's nothing there?

Did that make any sense?

........ Did you read it...the whole thing? Read it again, it'll explain more than what I can tell you right now, then ask again if you're still confused

Steps 3 to 7, more specifically.

I thought you meant *MFG* as Mother F...G GOOD......

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I tryed this technique but ended up doing it in my dream 3 or 4 times. But dident figure i was dreaming o.O

Originally Posted by Chef

I tryed this technique but ended up doing it in my dream 3 or 4 times. But dident figure i was dreaming o.O

Yea, make sure you do an RC if you think you failed. You'll be surprised.

Originally Posted by malac

........ Did you read it...the whole thing? Read it again, it'll explain more than what I can tell you right now, then ask again if you're still confused

Steps 3 to 7, more specifically.

Of course I read it.

I even read it again to humor you, but found that my question was still not answered, and though I think I know the answer, I just want to clarify it for myself and others.

Immediately after the thought of it being realistic or vivid, use your actual hands to grab and touch the nearest got damn thing closest to you. This image won't last long so you'll have to be fast about. I say actual hands because for when you use your actual hands, it'll for that moment be your dream hands.
(Yes, I discovered that the highest, strongest, most effective tactile movement is----Using your real body parts at a certain time, such as this!)

When you do this step, do you just reach out your real hands to "grab" something in your visualization, or do you actually, tangibly grab something near the bed in your room?

I think this should be titled GILD for Grabbed Image Lucid Dream, simply because the "ILD" thing is quite catchy and I think most people will think of/use this technique more if it soulds all official & stuff

I tried this last night with some good results. Here is what happened, pasted from my DJ. Anyway, I really feel like this has some potential and I think it should be experimented with more. I will keep on working on it.

Maloc's Fast Grab
I attempted this technique with interesting results. I visualized a world and started to see bright colors. However, I didn't wait until it formed, I just tried with all my might to reach out with my hands. I found that I couldn't and my body felt incredibly tight and bound. My dream hands sunk into a pool of molten color and it was the strangest feeling. Unfortunately I did not enter a lucid dream. The whole experience felt like a fast WILD, in a way. It was really great. I want to try it again.

I tried it another time in the night but I didn't visualize anything and I was on my belly so I ended up just hitting my bed with my real hands.

I don't know if I dreamed that this happened, but I did a version of this last night, and it worked!!

This technic sounds too good, at least i try, i´ll be a little sceptical about it. 10-15 seconds? God...If this works it will be the new Saint Graal of Lucid Dreaming!

However, it´s always positive to see people showing new prespectives, opening new patchs, and not always wasting time writing the sames tutorials...

You just provided a possible answer to my biggest LD problem. I'm very grateful, I'll try it tonight.

This worked last night for me, the first time I tried it.
I can vouch

Whenever I attempt to WILD I focus my attention purely on visualizing a landscape in front of me. Every so often I get quick flashes of breathtakingly real scenes that vanish before I can get the chance to really observe them. This to me is very frustrating because eventually after playing that game too long my mind wanders and I drift into sleep...

I don't know if literally grabbing the scenery would work. You know when you feel like your falling then wake up feeling like you just feel a few feet? It seems like grabbing it would startle yourself. I think a better way is to Not interact with it. To let it flow. I've found that when I let things happen, more than force weird things to happen, that they just come to me. It's worth a try for those of you who say when you tried to grab it that it didn't work....

Just saw this topic and I get that imagery almost instantly and can get them to last somewhat long so I'll give it an attempt tonight it might work well for me I think. Do something similar as it is on occasion but never tried moving my real hand.

Thanks, will give it a try.

I never fall asleep quickly enough for this to work. Almost every time I've ever become lucid, I've had to concentrate for at least 20 minutes.

Damn I wish there was a chance in hell of this working for me. I rarely have dreams yet alone lucids but I might try it.

Sounds interesting! I'm going to try this tonight. So in the grabbing part. I visualise myself grabbing the nearest object, but I stick my hands out to grab it as if it was there in real life right next to my bed?

Originally Posted by dcs82009

When you do this step, do you just reach out your real hands to "grab" something in your visualization, or do you actually, tangibly grab something near the bed in your room?

If I understand correctly you use you real hands to reach out and grab something in the dream. The thing is, when you do this your real hands do not move, instead your dream hands move and grab the dream world and pull you into it.

Originally Posted by Jamoca

I tried this last night with some good results. Here is what happened, pasted from my DJ. Anyway, I really feel like this has some potential and I think it should be experimented with more. I will keep on working on it.

Maloc's Fast Grab
I attempted this technique with interesting results. I visualized a world and started to see bright colors. However, I didn't wait until it formed, I just tried with all my might to reach out with my hands. I found that I couldn't and my body felt incredibly tight and bound. My dream hands sunk into a pool of molten color and it was the strangest feeling. Unfortunately I did not enter a lucid dream. The whole experience felt like a fast WILD, in a way. It was really great. I want to try it again.

I tried it another time in the night but I didn't visualize anything and I was on my belly so I ended up just hitting my bed with my real hands.

Glad to hear your results and I'm sure I will hear many more soon. The more people attempting this, the better. For this, I believe, is the technique to do.

Originally Posted by Jamoca

If I understand correctly you use you real hands to reach out and grab something in the dream. The thing is, when you do this your real hands do not move, instead your dream hands move and grab the dream world and pull you into it.

Presto you answered correctly. I told him to to read the following steps but I can now see how they could confuse as what to grab. If I could, I would edit the OP. Anyway to do that?

wow this technique sounds promising, so when you imagine everything getting brighter and brighter do you literally see it getting brighter?

Hey man, I like your technique. However, I don't like the beginner visualization part. Can you please clarify the normal visualization part?

Originally Posted by dcs82009

Of course I read it.

I even read it again to humor you, but found that my question was still not answered, and though I think I know the answer, I just want to clarify it for myself and others.



When you do this step, do you just reach out your real hands to "grab" something in your visualization, or do you actually, tangibly grab something near the bed in your room?

I think you take your actual tangible hand, but you feel somthing that isn't real. Like imagine you have an apple in your hand. Feel it. Your not actually touching it, but you are imagining you are by using your hand and previous knowledge as stimulus. Also make the shape your hand would if you were holding an apple. Remember, I THINK this is what malac is talking about.