Thread: Duration from attempting an LD to Getting one?

You took that analogy way too far Shift roflmao
Anyway I think it's both chance and skill. You can be good but then suddenly have a lucid without trying. But just opening your mind to the possibility of it is the step that allows you to have them. If you don't have them naturally I mean.

Effort is needed to break the habit of non-lucidity, then through effortless habit lucidity compounds.

Conclusion so far:

To break the traditional 'non-LD' dreaming habit, belief that your mind is qualified (well, every one is!) to have them and a good amount of serious effort (WBTB or MILD for enhanced results) is needed.

Once the first fish goes in the bucket (during fishing...), 'practice' getting more LDs, more often. Chance and skill play an equal part in this. Once again, WBTB an MILD for 'desperate' shots.

Did I get all of it?

I don't think there's a straight linear line that one has to take to lucidity. Different things work for different people. I don't MILD. I rarely WILD. I don't use any induction techniques except to RC, and I get one a week. Imagine if I actually did use techniques. I do wake up in the middle of the night, but I don't consider that a technique in itself, unless you do other things like MILD, autosuggestion, etc.

If you constrain yourself to such a path, what if it doesn't work? Branch out, try everything, read about everything, consider what you think will work, what you think won't, why or why not you feel that way. I focus on reality checking because it raises awareness of your self and your environment. If that didn't work for me, but that was the only thing I tried, I'd be screwed. I spent two years trying autosuggestion and MILD, and it got me two lucids a year. Some people only do those and get fantastic results.

I would say: to break the habit, develop sufficient recall that when you do become lucid, you'll remember it. Change your sleeping habits to try to sleep lighter. Learn to do reality checks, and to question your state. Use autosuggestion and MILD (w/ self discipline) to remind yourself to become lucid, and not to move when you first wake up, and to build that recall. Try to DEILD during every brief awakening. Once you've done those things, you'd be likely to get a few lucids in, in which case you'd know what you were looking for and be better able to make judgments for yourself.

Yeah. That's what I'm actually doing. Get opinions, sketch a conclusion, and take what I like from it.

You read my mind.

It took me 1.5 week to get my first lucid.

It was very short and the only cool thing that happened was me being able to breath through my nose while pinching it. But it was a lucid

After joining DV I had my first LD in the first week of "trying"