Thread: Stop Drop and Roll. Why Lucidology and Nicholas Newport are creating misinformation.

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Note:

Keep in mind that if we are not intently looking for dream signs during sleep, we will accept everything—no matter how strange.

Within our dreams we generally accept whatever happens—we usually just go along for the ride. It takes training to spot and fully realize the obscurities inherent within our dreams. You have to instil the idea within your head that if you see something bizarre, it’s very likely that you’re dreaming.

Continuing from last post:

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PART 5

DILD and MILD
Lucid Dream Induction Techniques

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Dream Induced Lucid Dream
Mnemonic Induced Lucid Dream

This is oldest and most common form of lucid dream. Many people refer to this method as DILD/MILD.

The goal is to do reality check in your dream.

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How to perform the DILD / MILD technique

Step 1:

Get a notepad and pencil and keep it ready by your bedside (within reach when you wake up from your sleep)

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Step 2:

Before lying down to sleep, repeat to yourself, that you will wake up and remember your dreams.

For example “Next time I’m dreaming, I will realize I’m dreaming’. As you tell yourself this, your subconscious will listen and will be more likely to do a reality check and become lucid in your dream.

(This is the Mnemonic Technique)

Step 3:

Close your eyes and go to sleep as you normally do.

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Step 4:

When you wake up in the middle of the night after a dream, take the notepad from step 1 and write down your dream. Recall the dream the best you can.

Step 5:

Close your eyes and go back to sleep.

As you are falling asleep, imagine that you are in the dream that you just wrote down on the notepad. Tell you mind that you will become lucid. See yourself as lucid within the dream.

(I had my very first lucid dream this way)

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DEILD

(Dream Exit Induced Lucid Dream)

The DEILD is very similar to the DILD. Your goal here is to re-enter a dream that you’ve just woken up from.

For this method you can either do this after you’ve woken from a dream or you can us the WBTB {Wake Back to Bed} technique.

You don’t want to move at all after you wake up.

Then make a conscious effort to remain lucid and aware as you drift back into your REM sleep. If possible, try to visualize the dream you previously woke up from and see yourself re-entering that dream, but in a conscious state.

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PART 6

WILD
Wake Induced Lucid Dreams

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WILD

(Wake Induced Lucid Dream)

Wake induced lucid dream is basically a method by which the dreamer enters the dream state directly from the waking state.

This method is difficult to master, and each person will experience the transition differently as we each have different physical and mental responses to it.

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How to Wild

Step 1;

You want to do the WBTB technique,

Keep your body totally relaxed and still. Let your inner voice go quiet, and observe any hypnagogic imager, sounds, … (This is normal – they are coming from inside your own head). This is the beginning of the dream state.

As the dream state deepens, hold on to this state of relaxation, while focusing on your intention to recognize the dream state when it occurs.

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How to Wild

Step 2:

Remember you are tricking your body to fall asleep consciously. So hold on to that thin strand of conscious awareness as your mind goes deeper. When your body falls asleep, you may hear and feel loud vibrations or humming sensations in your head.

This is the point of transition: from waking to the dream state. If you try to move now, you may find your body has naturally entered sleep paralysis, This is normal and occurs every time you go to sleep.

By now, your mind is aware but your body is asleep. At this point you can just step into the dream scene.

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Part 7

DREAM CONTROL
{I am taking another break (bfn Deb)}

Edge

Each and every photo in your two part Lucid Dreaming YouTube "Send Me" as in, releases "oxytocin" in my brain

I am going to upload each photo in the order they appear in your video's to my Flickr account and say what they mean to me in the description section.

Then I will open a tread here to explain why they "Send Me".

Your first pic shows a light behind the ear of an Indigo Dreamer. That part of the brain is a pleasure center that lights up when I l listen to wonderfull sounds and music.

Your second pic is a nostalgic ruin of a home I lived in long ago.

Your third is Robert Van De Castle. He is in one of the first Dream Labs on this planet, back in the 1970's. With that hat on his head that he gave to the Cuna Indians.

Your fourth is a metaphor of my first significant hypnagog of Harry Potter coming at me through a window with his friend the Wookie from Star Wars.

I could go on and on and on. And I will, on my Flickr account.

Uuuuuuu "send me" honest you do.

I will stick that YouTube in when morning comes. It is 11:49 pm Tues 24/Aug/2010 here now.

Hahah newly discovered techniques. I remember coming across this ages ago and thought it was junk. The net is full of this type of crap.. i feel sorry for the people that did pay for it, but they do need to become a bit more educated on how some people use the net to sell anything.

Thanx for posting Flight

You have been around here since April 2004. I am enjoying your 1st thread called "Reality" started in November 2006.

((hahaha) Stirrer !!!

whoa. that's a lot of copy and paste.

i still maintain that i consider newports stuff in line w/ everything else out there, he is just more detailed. things like the timer method are new even. there is a thread that is his timer method posted on here somewhere, without mentioning him however...

he claims to have had thousands of OBE's and he claims his whole interest in the field started trying to cure his insomnia.

Originally Posted by Siphorix

Granted, a LOT of what he was saying didnt make sense what so ever... like the whole alarm clock waking up every 20min for 8hrs.... wtf?

i have not seen this on there. there is a timer method with alarms going off at various intervals, but its only for twoish hours.

i actually do bet you could use an alarm clock going off every 20 mins for 8 hours though, thats like 24 chances to CANWILD/MILD/FILD/ but it would be annoying. you would eventually disregard the alarm clock.

Hi Edge

Sorry that I didn’t get back to you (pm) I caught a cold and have been in bed for 2 days. But I am back at Netzone Internet Café now.

The pictures and music and your dreamy-hypnotic voice “Send Me, honest you do”.

Sam Cooke You Send Me
YouTube - Sam Cooke You Send Me
(2:46) 54,048 View so far

I wish I could put pictures up here but I don’t know how to.

Actually I will open a thread on my favourite site so I can put you wonderful photographs up.

Sorry folks, but my favourite site is Mat-Nick’s (Nicolas Newport’s) saltcube. You know, that “car-salesman” who did all that “crap” called Lucidology 101 and Lucidology 102 and Lucidology 103.

First though I’ll finish transcribing the last bit of your Part 2 “Lucid Dreaming: How to control your dreams” (Bye for now, Deb)

Sheila posted a thread called:

“Robert Monroe Youtube Series”

On saltcube in October 2009. I just found it while looking for something else. It was way down on page 6. There are 8 youtube’s so that is about an hour of viewing. Enjoy!

Sheila wrote:

These aren't new, but they're interesting.

Robert Monroe:

MonroeInstitute

#1 Monroe's Out-of-Body (OBE) Paranormal Transformation of Human Consciousness
YouTube - #1 Monroe's Out-of-Body (OBE) Paranormal Transformation of Human Consciousness
Done in 1992 by The Monroe Institute (9:11) 41,241 views so far.
{And that happened to Robert Monroe back in 1958}

#2 Monroe's Out-of-Body (OBE) Paranormal Transformation of Human Consciousness
YouTube - #2 Monroe's Out-of-Body (OBE) Paranormal Transformation of Human Consciousness
(9:11) 41,241 views so far

#3 Monroe's Out-of-Body (OBE) Paranormal Transformation of Human Consciousness
YouTube - #3 Monroe's Out-of-Body (OBE) Paranormal Transformation of Human Consciousness
(9:41) 15,224 views so far

#4 Monroe's Out-of-Body (OBE) Paranormal Transformation of Human Consciousness
YouTube - #4 Monroe's Out-of-Body (OBE) Paranormal Transformation of Human Consciousness
(8:51) 11,535 views do far

#5 Monroe's Out-of-Body (OBE) Paranormal Transformation of Human Consciousness
YouTube - #5 Monroe's Out-of-Body (OBE) Paranormal Transformation of Human Consciousness
(9:02) 10,386 views so far

#6 Monroe's Out-of-Body (OBE) Paranormal Transformation of Human Consciousness
YouTube - #6 Monroe's Out-of-Body (OBE) Paranormal Transformation of Human Consciousness
(8:09) 9,996 wow!

#7 Monroe's Out-of-Body (OBE) Paranormal Transformation of Human Consciousness
YouTube - #7 Monroe's Out-of-Body (OBE) Paranormal Transformation of Human Consciousness
(10:30) 12,367 views so far

Bob Monroe's first Out-of-Body Experience (OBE)
YouTube - Bob Monroe's first Out-of-Body Experience (OBE)
(2:42) 6,895 view so far

Here is the link to the little thread on Saltcube:

http://www.saltcube.com/out-of-body/...ic.jsp?t=57913

i got a youtube account all leave a few comments on his vids saying its a scam

Hi

Long before Mat-Nick put his Lucidology 101 on YouTube Nick Newport (then known as Mat Jones) sent me the the whole of 101 in 2 down-loads (a 17 minute and a 37 minute down-load). These are some exerts from my original 17 minute down-load.

“Sleep Paralysis”

(00:00)

In this section we’re going to learn what is the easiest (…) way to enter into a subconscious focus without using any visualization’s. It is called “Sleep Paralysis”.

(…)

(1:24)

If you have read Robert Monroe’s book’s he calls this state “focus 10”.

So what does “Sleep Paralysis” have to do with Lucid Dreaming?

The whole trick to Lucid Dreaming is to enter a subconscious focus without losing awareness.

When you enter into “Sleep Paralysis” your body automatically sends your mind into a subconscious focus. You don’t have to use any visualization’s when you use this method because your body does it biologically.

(…)

(3:40)

Here is the most effective trick to break “Sleep Paralysis”.

(…)

Your breathing however is semi voluntary, so you still have control over it even in deep paralysis.

(…) Simply change your breathing pattern to some thing other than the sleep breathing pattern your body is already in. The most effective way I have found to do this is to begin to breathe deeply and slowly. (…) The main trick is to not panic …

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Some people find when they enter waking “Sleep Paralysis” they find that when they were asleep, they weren’t breathing. The problem here is not because of the sleep paralysis itself but because they have an existing condition called Sleep Apnoea. Sleep Apnoea basically means you stop breathing when you are asleep.

(…)

(6:13)

This is actually our main secret trick for doing visualization free OBE’s and Lucid Dream’s. This transition is the most important skill to learn for this part of the course. When you can put your body to sleep without losing consciousness at any point you have 100% perfectly clear dream recall.

(10:30)

There are 2 occasions when “sleep paralysis” is likely, they are :

“When the body is very tired and wants to go to sleep as fast as it possibly can.

and

When the body was very recently asleep but is currently very deeply relaxed.”

11:10

(…)

Using this simple bit of information we can eradicate the single biggest cause of insomnia, “The Toss and Turn” syndrome. When you toss and turn in bed what you are doing is resetting the bodies internal sleep timer each time you roll-over. The body is trying to go to sleep by sending you a “roll-over test signal” but you keep telling it not to sleep when you move.

So you end up stuck in a “toss and turn loop” and never get to sleep.

This results in insomnia.

(…)

(11:48)

The other reason for rolling over is that tossing and turning is a way for the body is to gradually dissipate tension in your muscles.

(…)

(12:28)

Eventually the “Toss and Turn” syndrome will cause you to relax enough so you will fall asleep, but there is a much easier way to go about it.

The easier way is called:

Stop, Drop and Roll.

(…)

(14:55)

Consistency is key. The more you do stop drop and roll the same way each time you fall asleep the more you’ll train your body to associate it with sleep.

In fact, after a while you’ll find your body has associated the very first stop position with sleep and you won’t need the other steps.

Some times you’ll have to roll over additional times in order to fully dissipate your body tension so you can fall asleep. If you find that you do have to roll over additional times then when you get up in the morning think back and remember what it was that caused you to move. Then the next night, relax those areas more deeply so you don’t have to move again.

Hi all

The last sentence, above, refers to those exercises in the first YouTube I fully transcribed, which is 14 posts up from this one and the date and time was: 08-20-2010 (07:05 AM)

That post started at 07:05 AM (20th August 2010) is where I began my defence of Mat-Nick’s work (Lucidology 101, 102 and 103).

Originally Posted by kingofhypocrites

It's not a scam. Just because a few jealous people don't like him creating new terms doesn't mean crap. His techniques work for a lot of people, and even get posted by other people on here claiming them as their own ideas. A lot of people praise the methods and just because it doesn't work for a couple of people who cares. You can argue whether it's work spending money but don't make claims and say it's a scam when you haven't even seen the videos. There is a lot of new techniques and ideas they I never saw on this site or any other. The fact the techniques work has been well established on this site.

Okay maybe its not a scam. but he is a sells man. he deleted my comment and only lets the good ones through. He is confusing as hell so you can continue to watch his junk. if you try to ask him for help he says watch this episode, which is no help. Why would anyone go to him for help when you can learn here on the DV forum? reading the video comments there are a lot of people who are confused so inventing so called new techniques is not good, when he does even talk about the old basic ones that most lucid dreamers know. good idea for a sells man invent new things so your the only one can help.

Allot of the stuff he's saying is what I found out about here on Dreamviews when I first started my search for lucid dreams.
So you're saying I've been mislead, misinformed and have wasted the 6 months of my life?
Everthing you read here and is seems like common knowlage at lucidoligy.

spaceexplorer you are completely wrong about Nick Newport. I bought the lucidology 102 course and I had my first WILD within fiften minutes of using the computer menu visualisation combined with the shifted balckboard technique and stimulus spikes. And I did this sat in my armchair. To all newbs - ignore the first post in this thread and make up your own mind. Nick Newport is an expert in his field.

He's a salesman trying to make money in an unsaturated market- that doesn't make him evil, nor dangerous. Just predictable.

And while the OP's point about the farce of mind and body being disconnected are totally valid, perhaps Mr. Newport is using "mind" in place of "the conscious mind", in which what he's saying would totally make sense. While the brain does issue the "move" or "roll over" command to test whether or not we are awake, we are not consciously aware that our brain is issuing that impulse behind-the-scene.

That beings said, I'd prefer to get my tips on lucid dreaming from this site over anywhere else in a heartbeat- I'm just trying to make sure both sides of the coin are seen

Originally Posted by mcwillis

spaceexplorer you are completely wrong about nick newport. I bought the lucidology 102 course and i had my first wild within fiften minutes of using the computer menu visualisation combined with the shifted balckboard technique and stimulus spikes. And i did this sat in my armchair. To all newbs - ignore the first post in this thread and make up your own mind. Nick newport is an expert in his field.

lmao xd

Hey Edge

I am not the only one who loves your YouTubes. There has been another 300 views from Sunday 22nd of August 2010 till today (Tuesday 7th September here) 15 days.

That is an average of 20 views a day.

I have just put the lovely pic at the 7:55 point of your 10:00 part one onto my photo stream. Here is the link:

Cubby House in Tree | Flickr - Photo Sharing!

I will put all the “description” below cos at flickr you have to remember to hit the back-button in the far top-left corner to come back to flickr. So here is the description below:

When I look at this photo of a cubby house in a tree, I feel like these children in these 3 YouTubes.

The first is an ad that comes on my TV a lot. It looks (to me) like it is about children dreaming.

The next one has all the words of “Climb-up my appletree” and the last is another older Target ad about children dreaming.

Climb up my appletree.
YouTube - Climb up my apple tree
(0:46) 46 views so far

lyrics:

You could be my White Knight
I could be your fairytale
You could come and save me
But that is not the end
Say, say you’ll play, mate
Come out and play with me
Come bring your dollies three
CLIMB UP MY APPLE TREE
Slide down my rainbow
Into my cellar door
And we’ll be jolly friends for ever more
Target, 100% happy, We Love Kids.

Best
Oh, Playmate, Come out and Play with Me
YouTube - Oh, Playmate, Come out and Play with Me
(0:55) 19,653 views

Target Every Colour You Can Dream Of (kids version; 2009) YouTube - Target Every Colour You Can Dream Of (kids version; 2009)
(0:30) 30,473 views

Originally Posted by DpsBob

lmao xd

After ten minutes I was getting a lot of memory impressions and was astounded that I was getting these on my first attempt and sitting up too. I expected at least a few weeks of practice to get the memory impressions to become stable but suddenly an image of a mountain top plateau appeared and I fortunately was able to not look at it directly. It began to magnify in size and voila I was there on top of this mountain top. I was in a full blown lucid. The snow was sparkling under the sunlight and wit all the astonishmnet I was back in my body with incredibly strong prickling vibrations. So you laughed your ass off did you. I started meditating 35 years ago which no doubt enabled me to do this straight away. I was probably meditating before you were born so why dont you buy the course and start to grow up.

Hi Dream Viewer’s

Yesterday someone bumped up a thread called “How To Tell How Close You Are To An OBE” on saltcube. Here is that someone’s post:

20-Sep-10
(03:33 PM)
Gary
Hello everyone, I have had an OBE 2 years ago with SP (sleep paralysis) and all what goes with it. Once during sleep and another time during meditation.

But after some months I started using Binaural beats and orgonite. These things would kind of create all kind of tingling all over the body. Which nowadays I don't feel anymore.

What else to tell you that could have influenced me not feeling SP anymore:

I had several energy healing sessions and chakra work done to remove wounds and blockages in my energy bodies.

Then last week I remember that I went to bed, took up a comic book and then I closed my eyes but then I could still clearly see myself holding the comic book (astral eyes)? It was crystal clear I just somehow surrendered and positioned myself simply as an observer. I got excited and opened my physical eyes and the next moment I closed my eyes it was blank.

I tried to use concentration exercise to do it but it wasn't the same as the first moment. I think they call this "the gazing technique"

But now the question is, is that I saw the video on having vibrationless OBE's and I was wondering how do you know for sure when to exit the body without SP? Or How do I know for sure I am having vibrationless states?
{Here is the first Post of the thread, Dream Viewer’s. The thread was started in 2006. It has 30 replies and a massive 11407 views. I have never seen it before and I was wondering what you guys think of mattnick’s chart. Gig was not too impressed with it but gig is a very advanced LD/OBEer.

(First post: Nick)
20-Nov-2007
(11:33 AM)

Nick (in 2007 Nick was called Matt)

One of the most difficult things to do is to know how close you are to exiting and unless you've done it a few times you don't know what's going on until after you've done it.

There's no shortage of strange things that happen as you learn how to exit, this is a very good thing because they all act as signposts telling you how well you're progressing and what kinds of things you should do to make it to the next level of ability. We'll cover them in the approximate order you run across them as you relax into an OBE.

A lot of these overlap levels of relaxation so you can use these charts to tell about how far you've gone depending on what phenomenon you're sensing at the time:
(Dream Viewer’s, the chart is visible at

http://www.saltcube.com/out-of-body/...sp?t=how-close

You will need to register then look for “How To Tell How Close You Are To An OBE” which, right now, is at the top of the page. Or register then come back here and click the link again. Gigaschatten was not impressed with the chart and gig is a very advanced LD/OBEer but Kiauma thought different (hahaha) Ki always crossed swords with gig.)

13-Feb-09
05:31 PM

gigaschatten

Beginners should NOT read this thread, advanced OBEers don't need to. Someone practicing a method to attain an OBE watching for side effects is very likely to fail, because it will distract her/him, break concentration, direct the focus on the body and cause excitement when an effect sets in.

If you are a beginner and want to have an OBE, best forget anything you read in this thread and don't care about side effects. They may come or they may not. It doesn't matter much though, because you don't want side effects, you want the out-of-body state. Expectation is a killer - in a negative way.

13-Feb-09
06:40 PM
Kiauma

I'll agree overt reactionary expectation is a killer - but meditative intentional observing consciousness is a quick trip to OBE land.

Not sure how it could work otherwise.

(What do You Dream Viewer’s think of Nicholas Newport’s (Matt Jones) chart?)

Ok Dream Viewers

I got Nicholas Newports Lucidology 103 today.

It is an eleven module course paced at one module per fortnight (two-weeks) for 22 weeks. It costs about $25 American per module.

I am posting because I hope to do this course with others, here, who are also doing this course. Here is the list of 35 topics that will be covered in the 11 module course:

01— How precisely reality is created and why almost every book on “Creating Your Reality” is wrong.

02— The afterlife: How to bread the Reincarnation Cycle.

03— What Time actually is and is not and How to Manipulate it in OBE’s.

04— How to Navigate Nonephysical Planes by understanding their anatomy.

05— How to Breach the Nonphysical Quarantine Surrounding Earth.

06— How to Use Nonphysical Transports to travel galactic distances.

07— What not to do once you become Lucid.

08— How mirrors affect dreams.

09— How to Use non-physical cords constructively and keep from getting bound up by them.

10— How to stay safe in OBE’s using the non-physical geography Map.

11— Spirit Guides: how to avoid common dangers people fall in to.

12— The Oversoul & how the universe is constructed.

13— The “End” of the world.

14— Detecting your other incarnations.

15— Contacting Your Oversoul.

16— Reading your soul records.

17— Pre-life: When does a soul enter the physical body?

18— Life planning or the lack thereof.

19— How to: Your mastery of density to overcome blocks.

20— How to make flying effortless.

21— How to use a quick negativity purge to break through to higher planes.

22— How to navigate buffer zones and non-physical planes.

23— How to detect your charka energy centers.

24— Navigating non-physical planes using buffer zones.

25— How to make use of non-physical transports.

26— How to escape from the Earth’s galactic quarantine.

27— Breaking the reincarnation trap.

28— Using OBE’s to find out what death really is.

29— How to manipulate time and understand how time travel works without paradoxes.

30— The non-physical superhero outfitter’s kit.

31— Using Heart energy to overcome blocks in OBE’s.

32— How to stay safe in OBE’s with non-physical combat techniques, non-physical map making.

33— How to identify Frauds in books on OBE’s and non-physical areas.

34— Pitfalls to watch out for and common “Wisdom” which can get you into Deep trouble.

35— How to use Lucid Dreams to Supercharge you creativity and solve problems.

Hope someone at DreamViews will join me in doing this course. I think it is called: The Afterlife Explorer's Toolkit

And the first module is called:

Module 1: The Oversoul And How The Universe Is Constructed.

Hey guys, I'm just a newbie here who got interested in OBEs thanks to Newport's ads. Although I'm not really sure at all where to start or how to go about getting OBEs and LDs, and plus, I'm a bit hesitant about purchasing Lucidology 102 after reading some of the complaints here. So I found this free e-book School of Out of Body Travel by Michael Raduga plus the accompanying youtube videos. Are they teaching the right principles there, and do they actually work...or is it just pseudo-scientific crap? I really have no idea where to start, after getting confused with so much stuff when I was a kid, reading about WILDs, etc., reality checks, and oversouls, etc., and starting my dream journal (which I just couldn't do since I was too lazy to recall and write out my dream right after waking in the middle of the night).

Originally Posted by Antirealism

Hey guys, I'm just a newbie here who got interested in OBEs thanks to Newport's ads. Although I'm not really sure at all where to start or how to go about getting OBEs and LDs, and plus, I'm a bit hesitant about purchasing Lucidology 102 after reading some of the complaints here. So I found this free e-book School of Out of Body Travel by Michael Raduga plus the accompanying youtube videos. Are they teaching the right principles there, and do they actually work...or is it just pseudo-scientific crap? I really have no idea where to start, after getting confused with so much stuff when I was a kid, reading about WILDs, etc., reality checks, and oversouls, etc., and starting my dream journal (which I just couldn't do since I was too lazy to recall and write out my dream right after waking in the middle of the night).

I would start off with Mr. Raduga's methods as they are very easy and bring quick results. However, Lucidology102 is the best course I have come across for visualisation based WILD's. Four years of research, testing and tweaking went into the course. It requires a lot of study to get the best out of the course as it is jam packed with a great deal of 'how to' information. It culminates in one being able to do 'quick switch' OBE's in a matter of minutes. I have found the initial OBE/LD blueprint to be the most effective and fastest way to enter a deep subconscious focus. I don't care what the antagonists say, Mr. Newport's techniques work.

I watched two of his videos and they are pretty confusing

1. He does use some confusing terminology of his own.

2. He talks pretty much about OBEs, but he doesn't explain what they are. For example he explains how to get OBEs and then suddenly starts talking about LDs.

3. The message I got is that to get an OBE/LD/SP you must be completely still for the whole night. I agree that lying still can help but of course you may move a little, which you do normally anyway.

4. About 50% what he's explaining is nonsense.

5. He writes that all other tutorials are false.

6. He tells people to do exactly what he says, "go to sleep at 21.00 and wake up at 04.15 and stay awake for half an hour"for example, not mentioning that the amount of sleep varies between people.

7. His techniques may work, but he discourages people to use them as mere guidelines. There are lots of people commenting and asking why the techniques aren't working for them.

wow this nicholas newport guy is such a douche

holy crap has this guy ever read of idon't know EXPLORING THE WORLD OF LUCID DREAKING DREAMING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! oh my god i hate this guy so much STEPHEN FREAKING LA BERGE PROVED LUCID DREAMING TO BE POSSIBLE!!!! this guy is such a douche he is pretty much saying RHOO RHOO RHOO "i'm the only guy who knows how to induce lucid dreams and obes" i freaking hate this guy i mean seriously and exploring the world of lucid dreaming even talks about i think i will take stephen la berges advice who has actually gone to stanford and proved lucid dreaming than this other guy who is just trying to make money saying everyone else is wrong

i freaking hate this guy