Insomniac wild'ers come here! Need help!!!

[Liquidaque]

So... I'm an insomniac... it takes 3 sleeping pills to get me to sleep. I've been trying to WILD for nearly 3 weeks now, with only mild success. My problem is, I take a VERY long time to fall asleep (3 hours or so). I've tried to WILD by simply staring at or through my closed eyelids, but I always end up falling asleep after about 3 hours, without WILD'ing. I think I fall asleep because I have to meditate VERY deeply in order to attain sleep, and in doing so, I go through a long phase of little to no brain activity before finally losing consciousness... there is no, "Oh, I'm falling asleep now," because it doesn't happen all of a sudden like most people... it happens gradually. So, after no success WILD'ing by simply staring at or through my closed eyelids, I began to try to listen to binaural beats while I try and WILD. This keeps me up with enough consciousness to remember to continue to stare at my eyelids. The problem now is, I cannot fall asleep at all... no matter how absurdly long I try (I've gone 7 hours straight before). I've been experimenting with my binaural beat program to maybe try and find a better beat frequency, or sound frequency, or maybe just the right volume (right now I'm at 40hz sound and 4.25hz beat). So far, still no luck... :/ I think I'm on the right track with the binaural beats, but I'm not sure. I say I've had "mild" success WILD'ing because I had a successful DEILD and WBTB attempt already... but my goal is to WILD straight from being awake all day. Could all this be just because I've only been trying to WILD for less than 3 weeks? Does everyone go through this phase? If so, how long should I expect to be in this phase before my body finally gets used to WILD'ing??? Any tips here? Please help! I already have VERY vivid 2-5 hour LD's by DILD'ing and MILD'ing, and I hear WILD's last even longer, and are more vivid (if that's even possible for me, I don't know)... so I'm VERY excited and motivated to have one. HELP!!!!!

[Kaenthem]

hmmmmm,to me it looks like that you had very emprisive results with MILD and DILD,why bother your self learning WILD,this is my opinion of course and there will be other memebers that will help you.as for me i don't know any advice to give,but 2 to 5hours LDs ........it looks very good even for people that have been LDing for some time now.

[Spyguy]

If falling asleep is that difficult for you, I don't think WILD is the thing you should focus on. I recommend a DILD- or MILD- type technique. A type of WILD that might be succesful for you is DEILD. To erase any misconceptions: WILDs are not better or worth more than (for example) DILDs.

[mcwillis]

I have a remedy for you in the form of EFT. I have been using it for a few years now and at times it has worked little miracles for me. There is a video below that you can follow along to. I would suggest running through the video 3 times before going to bed. It may not work the first night so keep doing it on a daily basis. You can get the basic manual at this website LINK Also do you toss and turn during the three hours before sleeping? If you do then force yourself to remain completely still and you will fall asleep much more quickly.

[Milliecake]

I'm far from a WILD expert but I think the consensus is it's very hard to WILD without some sleep first. I'd get the WBTB down first, trying WILDing from there so you have at least some rest under your belt.