Binaural beats?

[Piedude]

Do binaural beats work for everyone or do you have to be near REM stage (For lucid dream binaurals obv) Because I tried it for a nap and woke 20 mins later and I dont think I had any dreams at all....

[jessie1203]

Do binaural beats work for everyone or do you have to be near REM stage (For lucid dream binaurals obv) Because I tried it for a nap and woke 20 mins later and I dont think I had any dreams at all.... Hey um... I've been trying binaural beats for quite some time, with No success whatsoever... Until!! I found these http://gnomad.info/ Their absolutely free and i got them from this forum http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/we...-t14409.0.html on the first page just go to the little links on the top right, my favorite is boxed nirvana... I have to say, I have a very stubborn mind, and its been so hard for me to learn all this stuff, (I wanna learn to WILD) but with just a couple of tries with these mp3's, I got into SP and HI!!!!! that was a huge surprise for me, cause I was giving up on these beats... But I think these will actually help me get somewhere.. as soon as i start listening to it i feel relaxed and get vibrations.. and get into HI real quick... try them out!! let me know if they work for you too! http://gnomad.info/ they worked great on me when i nap... not too much at bed time, cause then i just fall asleep...

[SkinnyBill]

ok ill try that out. im gonna try the boxed nirvana II first. Ill give a thanks if it works

[Abra]

The problem with using binaurals to induce dreams, is that they don't. If the claims are true (by the way, I have not found ANY scholarly information that confirms that binaurals can alter brainwaves. This leads me to believe that binaurals are nothing more than a placebo.), then binaurals can bring you into beta wave sleep. Beta wave sleep is where REM occurs, but it's also the same activity as waking thought. What's the guarantee that you enter REM, instead of simply waking up? Our minds have a process they must go through, a rollercoaster of brainwaves they must enter, at specific times, before entering REM. This lasts about an hour. And while you /could/ get a binaural track that mimics these brainwaves, there would be absolutely no way to distinguish results attained naturally from those supposedly "induced" by binaurals.

[Specialis Sapientia]

The problem with using binaurals to induce dreams, is that they don't. If the claims are true (by the way, I have not found ANY scholarly information that confirms that binaurals can alter brainwaves. This leads me to believe that binaurals are nothing more than a placebo.), then binaurals can bring you into beta wave sleep. Beta wave sleep is where REM occurs, but it's also the same activity as waking thought. What's the guarantee that you enter REM, instead of simply waking up? Our minds have a process they must go through, a rollercoaster of brainwaves they must enter, at specific times, before entering REM. This lasts about an hour. And while you /could/ get a binaural track that mimics these brainwaves, there would be absolutely no way to distinguish results attained naturally from those supposedly "induced" by binaurals. What? There are hundred of scientific papers on binaural beats and its effects. One great application is using binaural beats during surgery, reducing the need for sedatives greatly. You can find some here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Binaural_beats#References I wouldn't call any sleep stage "beta wave sleep", we have a mix of different brainwaves in REM, beta, alpha and theta. See also: http://www.madsci.org/posts/archives...9909.Ns.r.html Though I don't know why this is important, the primary use of binaural beats is used during waking, not sleeping. You can experience altered states of consciousness that can be facilitated by binaural beats, it's just a help. You can experiment yourself, it's very easy to do. I have certainly felt the effects of binaural beats before, and so have many others. It's not just placebo.

[jessie1203]

Though I don't know why this is important, the primary use of binaural beats is used during waking, not sleeping. You can experience altered states of consciousness that can be facilitated by binaural beats, it's just a help. You can experiment yourself, it's very easy to do. I have certainly felt the effects of binaural beats before, and so have many others. It's not just placebo. Yes! and I'm guessing (based on my experience) that different beats work for different people, you just gotta find the ones that work for you... It helps my relaxation very much!! and my thoughts start slipping away easier than without these beats that I posted before... Its not like its GONNA MEKE YOU LD!! but it does help you get on the right track....

[Abra]

What? There are hundred of scientific papers on binaural beats and its effects. One great application is using binaural beats during surgery, reducing the need for sedatives greatly. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10460529 Does seem reputable. I haven't seen "hundreds," though. The most I've seen for binaural brainwave studies, were studies generated by the binaural merchants themselves, and described qualitatively (or, papers that cite those studies). Of course, all I've tried as far as searching goes is Google Scholar, typing in "binaural beats brainwaves." Though I don't know why this is important, the primary use of binaural beats is used during waking, not sleeping. You can experience altered states of consciousness that can be facilitated by binaural beats, it's just a help. Yup. I doubt it will aid in lucid dreaming, as well. Regarding placebo... Even the binaural websites say that you must focus on the beats, and meditate along with them, to work. Can they not work on their own for some reason? And how can you tell the difference between effects from meditation, and effects from binaurals? I'm just saying, don't waste your money on these. As there are free versions abound, and I'm certain there's no difference from the pay sites.