contacting some one in their dreams

**AD0123** · 05-22-2011 03:50 AM

I know it is possible for two people to be in the same dream, even if they haven't met in person, I know there is mutual lucid dreaming and I also know its possible for one person to be lucid and the other to not be lucid.

I know you can communicate with other people in your LDs and learn things about them but they don't have a mutual dream with you just because you brought them in. What do you guys think is the difference between having some one have the same dream as you and you just bringing them into your own dream?

basically, what is the best way to have this person remember the dream that I have with them? because I know it is possible, though rare.

**Hyu** · 05-22-2011 04:02 AM

I believe this question might be better suited for the beyond dreaming section.

**Puffin** · 05-22-2011 05:30 AM

Moved to Beyond Dreaming.

**Reclypso** · 05-22-2011 08:46 AM

The difference is that when you bring someone into your dream it's just a dream character created by your mind, and when you are actually in the same dream lucid (which isn't proven to be possible) you can actually make mental connections with them

**AD0123** · 05-22-2011 09:01 AM

Yes people have been in the same dream lucid before, it is possible.

**Reclypso** · 05-22-2011 10:00 AM

Like I said it isn't proven show me the scientific evidence, but anyway even if one pair of people happened to have a shared dream it could just be a coincidence. Just like the world being predicted to end, it's not always true, people make up stories for all sorts of reasons. But I would like to see links you have based on shared dreams.

Everyone dreams every night, is it weird that two people may have the same dream?

**Loaf** · 05-22-2011 10:18 AM

Indeed, Reclypso is right in saying that there is no scientific evidence to support this. There is the testimony of a growing amount of people here at DV, and I myself spent a good year having close Skype contact with RavenKnight and WakingNomad, arguably the most well known 'shared dreamers' here. I experienced two interesting scenarios that left me relatively impressed. I still have regular contact with RavenKnight, but my intensions for shared dreaming dropped as its not easy to accomplish and very tiring to try. Can I say it does exist? I don't know; I am leaning towards yes.

**AD0123** · 05-22-2011 12:02 PM

My main question is how difficult it would be.

Also, I have Lucid dreaming by robert wagner which has mutliple examples of this being done both lucid and non lucid. Also if you google "mutual lucid dreaming" you can find examples.

**Loaf** · 05-22-2011 12:14 PM

Its not easy. I dedicated every night for over a year and only ended up with 2 quality results. For most people, I think the effort, time, and doubt would overpower them.

**AD0123** · 05-22-2011 12:19 PM

so you are saying you were able to make contact though?

**Loaf** · 05-22-2011 12:44 PM

Well the most notable time was the second. Basically what happened was I had this dream that was very so-so, I was on a bus just driving along. But suddenly we went over a bridge and I got a sudden random urge to get out. I jumped into the water and swam; totally unusual non-lucid behaviour. I got to land and there was a beach, a huge forest, then huts. Looked like a small community of monks or something. They were not happy with me being there. Suddenly I found RavenKnight and WakingNomad putting up a tent. They then abducted me and got me out of the area.
In the morning after I had woken up, I drafted a rough account of the dream and posted it. About mid-day RavenKnight tells me she believes it was a shared dream. She writes in her DJ what happened. I read through it and was rather excited, but then it dawned; wait, she could have just read my dream journal. But boom. It hit. Raven had written about details that I had not mentioned. In particular, the massive forest next to the camping grounds was left out of my DJ post, and that was a major segment of the dream world during that time. So largely, Raven's ability to tell me the details about the dream I had experienced, which I didn't have time to write in my draft, made me become shocked. Apparently I perceived them wrong too, they didn't abduct but rather.. forcefully got me away for my own safety from the people who were putting up huts?

**Hyu** · 05-22-2011 01:56 PM

If you're interested in dream sharing I suggest having a look at a collection of FAQ by WakingNomad:
http://www.dreamviews.com/f19/shared-dream-faqs-109499/

And I agree, if it is indeed possible, then it is quite hard.
I've been trying for some time, though I could have possibly invested more time in it, and I have yet to have a confirmed shared dream.
Then again I'm still not 100% convinced that is is actually possible, but I am quite open to the idea.
My shared dreaming partners have appeared in my dreams, and I have appeared in theirs, but the dreams haven't matched so far.

**Reclypso** · 05-23-2011 02:20 AM

Originally Posted by Hyu

If you're interested in dream sharing I suggest having a look at a collection of FAQ by WakingNomad:
http://www.dreamviews.com/f19/shared-dream-faqs-109499/

I was just reading those FAQ's and it's obvious you can't have a shared dream it's impossible if you connect the dots. The only way possible to have a shared 'experience' would be outside a dream, so like an astral projection or an OBE. Which are not dreams, according to the people that have them.

**Loaf** · 05-23-2011 03:42 AM

Originally Posted by Reclypso

I was just reading those FAQ's and it's obvious you can't have a shared dream it's impossible if you connect the dots. The only way possible to have a shared 'experience' would be outside a dream, so like an astral projection or an OBE. Which are not dreams, according to the people that have them.

No.