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      Astral Plane..?

      I LD a lot.. I never tell anyone outside here because I get accused of being crazy and stuff.. Well, I was talking to a good friend of the family today and he was telling me about his OBEs he has. He says he does it on purpose to visit the AP.. Well of course LDs got brought up. He does them too.. He tells me that what I am doing when I am LDing is visiting the astral plane myself and that I need to be careful... I told him about how I teleport around and conjure up stuff and fly.. He tells me I need to gain better control and be able to wake myself up as there are things 5000x scarier than my worst nightmares. Is there any validation to this? I believe in the Astral Plane 100%.. I want to know if I am safe.. I don't want my cord to break.
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      Since your only Lucid dreaming and not essentially Astral projecting, you should be fine. However from what I've experienced through Astral Projection is that there are some spirits and entities out there who will intentionally try to scare as they can sense your fear. If you ever run into any while on the AP stand your ground and demand they leave at once, don't let your fear get the better of you. Also your cord is broken only upon death. So since no being can kill you in real life in a lucid dream you don't have to worry about your cord being severed.
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      deep physical relaxation is the answer according to Lobsang Ramper.

      Dear Cactuar

      In the 1950s Lobsang Ramper wrote that you will know when you are close to entering a very high and deeply spiritual plane because these are protected.

      No matter how advanced and holy a person is, they all get the same treatment, as they ascend into a high astral plane.

      He wrote that elementals are trained and placed in the perimiter. Their job is to be very scary and very disgusting. They attack "every" entity who ascends to the high astral planets. But they can't actually do damage.

      They successfully keep out the rifraf.

      Lobsang wrote that if you are suddenly accosted by ugly faces and screamers and disgusting things, just relax through it, because you are very close.

      They wont hurt you. But it will never get any easier. Only relaxing and loving, (or ignoring) them will get you past them.

      An unevolved cannot relax enough to pass through and instead find themself waking from a nightmare.

      "Deep relaxation" in the key to accessing the love, (and patience) needed to get through to the higher astral planes.

      And Lobsang claimed that even the highest Lamas see them as they, (nightly) ascend. So give up the notion that there is any thing wrong with you that you keep having nightmares when you astral travel.

      Practice deep relaxation till you can remember to do it in your nightmare. Then, it is just a matter of time before you float through it and gain admittance to heavenly places where the unevolved can't reach.

      Cactuar wrote: He tells me I need to gain better control and be able to wake myself up as there are things 5000x scarier than my worst nightmares. Is there any validation to this? I believe in the Astral Plane 100%.. I want to know if I am safe..
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      Thanks for the reassurance guys! It definitely helps me to feel more confident!

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