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      shared dreaming and remote viewing

      I've mentioned before that precognitive dream experiences are for me always partially shared experiences. It occurred to me this week that telepathetic cooperation should also make becoming aware of current and past events a lot easier.

      I was going to suggest this as another possible approach for demonstrating shared dreaming, but now that I think about it more, it seems to reduce down to a suggestion I already made earlier. One person chooses a question of personal importance to them, and a second person seeks an answer to it without being given complete information about the question. The 'solution' they dream should require creativity and insight, not something spiritually boring like knowing what the hidden piece of information is. If externally unshared information is crucial to the solution, it may be extractable from the resulting dreams even though it is only implicit in the 'answer' that is dreamed.

      I realize this approach will be too convoluted and subjective to satisfy people who want shared dreaming to be as straightforward as measuring something with a caliper. But for me personally, the part of the mind which can do the sharing is not going to participate unless there is something there that is of value to it. And its not interested in things like passwords or lottery ticket numbers. There's no way to force this, it has to be invited and it has to accept. Even then, it will find some other way to answer the question that foils the test unless it approves of the "shared dreaming proof" aspect of the test also. It won't be tricked or manipulated. But maybe it will compromise and participate if we meet it halfway, when and if the time is ripe for that. This 'collective subconscious', or whatever we want to call it, that I experience is extremely patient. If we want to prove shared dreaming, and it agrees, it won't attempt it now if it knows it can be done more effectively later.

      Anyway, my main point here was to suggest that if anyone wants to cooperate in getting information about past events, this is another angle to explore.

      In this context I was also thinking more about 'past lives'. Now not only am I not sure that past lives are uniquely connected to particular people, I'm not even sure that the past exists at all except insofar as its defined by memory. And by memory I don't mean human memory necessarily, I mean any aspect of the present state of nature that can occur only as a consequence of particular previous states. In that regard it seems a lot like the future. We can be about as sure that the sun will come up tomorrow as we can be that it came up yesterday. But if you flipped a coin twice without looking at it, I'm not sure that the first flip even has an outcome now, any more than the flip you are about to do has an outcome now. Maybe it does. If anyone wants to explore something about that I'm up for it.

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      I like your coin toss example. I actually tend to agree. I am not at all convinced the past is set in stone, except for the cases were record exists, such as it actually being set in stone. I am up for a challenge. Where would we start?
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