Thread: Bad experience....

you held in mind a horror movie as you went to sleep and are wondering why you had a bad experience? lol

It sounds like a lucid dream to me, since you didn't become lucid until the very end of the dream.
If your mind is constantly making connections to Insidious when you're thinking of doing astral projection, scary things are bound to happen in the dream.
Just stay relaxed and know that since it's only a dream, nothing can harm you. The dark figure was merely another dream character that formed from your own uncertainties.

Originally Posted by DreamingNinjas

It sounds like a lucid dream to me, since you didn't become lucid until the very end of the dream.
If your mind is constantly making connections to Insidious when you're thinking of doing astral projection, scary things are bound to happen in the dream.
Just stay relaxed and know that since it's only a dream, nothing can harm you. The dark figure was merely another dream character that formed from your own uncertainties.

I'm trying to believe that but it was just so different this time. Usually in dreams I always just warp scary things away, but it didn't work this time. It was a different feeling, everything was just so precise. And I've seen dark figures before while I had seemingly had out of body experiences ever since I was little. I seems like I felt myself leave the body. Also Insidious isn't on my mind all the time, nor was it the last thing I was thinking of before I went to sleep.

Ah, forgive me then. I thought when you said,

While I was thinking of astral projection, I also kept thinking of the movie: Insidious which was a horror film that was focused around astral projection which could have aided in what happened.

that you meant you were thinking of Insidious whilst you were falling asleep.
Anyway, I wouldn't worry about the dark figures you've seen when doing OOBEs in the past. Many people report seeing them, but no harm has ever come to them from these things.
If you ever have an encounter like this again, escaping shouldn't be a problem. You were woken up from this one, so you should be able to wake up on demand if need be.

Originally Posted by Quantum

I also kept thinking of the movie: Insidious which was a horror film that was focused around astral projection which could have aided in what happened.

Well, I went into a dream. I won't go into detail about the dream since it was nonsense except for the ending, just know it took place in my house and it wasn't lucid until the end.

At the end of the dream, I went into my room and shut the door. Everything was dark. I sat on my chair with my legs crossed, and somehow I just floated right out of my body.

As the above post said, I sounds like it was all a dream. Even the OBE was just a dream.

And as we falling asleep, that's when our mind is most susceptible to suggestions. That's how we can incubate dreams. So my opinion is, that you incubated a scary dream. You didn't have to think of the specifics, your mind filled out the gaps.

Just thinking about the movie, and deciding to have OBE (which you say you heard about people encountering scary entities), formed and shaped your experience.

Originally Posted by gab

As the above post said, I sounds like it was all a dream. Even the OBE was just a dream.

And as we falling asleep, that's when our mind is most susceptible to suggestions. That's how we can incubate dreams. So my opinion is, that you incubated a scary dream. You didn't have to think of the specifics, your mind filled out the gaps.

Just thinking about the movie, and deciding to have OBE (which you say you heard about people encountering scary entities), formed and shaped your experience.

I was debating whether or not including the Insidious part in there. I don't personally think it influenced my "dream". I didn't know about people seeing entities in OBE until after I looked it up when I woke up. One woman on yahoo answers had a very similar experience as me. She saw the hand first, and then she looked at the face which was gray but had no eyes, nose, mouth. Then the entity tried to pick her up, such as in my dream. I know it is possible that little tidbits of what you're thinking of can corporate itself into your dreams, but this felt very different from a dream.

On the one hand, I agree with those of you who discourage people from getting all paranoid about demons. We're protected by providence, apparently, and there isn't much that a person experiences in a dream that's not happening anyway, irrespective of what is experienced or done in the dream. What we commonly call thoughts just don't go that deep. Furthermore, we ourselves are dark, dangerous, shadowy figures, at least in part, and its mostly pointless to shrink away from ourselves.

On the other hand....You've had bad dreams, and you've drawn conclusions about them, but you don't know what other people have experienced. Its wrong to just confidently pronounce that something is harmless when you don't in fact fully understand what you're dealing with. Particularly when it involves diminishing or brushing off those elements of other people's experiences that don't fit your agenda, however positive you think it may be. I've had more than one dream experience which involved an actual death in waking life, including one very close to me, in a lucid dream involving an 'entity'. I think you should respect a bit more what Quantum is telling you, rather than bending it to fit what you already believe.

Quantum, why would you intentionally make your body go numb? I'm not a fan of meditation, but that's the exact opposite of what many people do to meditate, and seems even stranger. Is this a technique someone has been teaching for inducing exotic dream experiences? It reminds me of a girl on my street, long since deceased, who used to inhale whiteout. Maybe if it leads to experiences like what you describe, its not that great of an idea.

It seems to me that if you have demons in your mind that are yours and you have to deal with them, they're going to come out in your dreams or in your life no matter what you do. You'll have opportunities, you don't have to go through mental gymnastics that create or amplify them. Similarly, if astral projection is a positive step for you, it will happen naturally as a consequence of your everyday exercising of your mind, without you doing tricks to induce it. If it takes drugs or weird meditative techniques, then I can't see how it can be a good idea. Nothing good in life that I have ever seen comes that way.

Best wishes.

I had an experience last night where a spirit seemed to tell me that something I was trying to do in relation to my development wasn't a good idea, at least not right now. Even though my experience was pleasant, it seems to me that your experience is similar, even though the form and interpretation is a lot different. This reminds me of an experience where I seemed to be attacked by a demon, but looking at it another way it was just showing me my own hatred, like holding up a mirror, and from that standpoint it didn't seem negative at all. Maybe your experience is like this, its showing you something that's amiss with your own approach to astral stuff, but the 'spirit' you encountered isn't necessarily bad, the experience is just distorted and it seems that way because the time isn't quite right on your end.

i've had some encounters with bad characters that attack me or latch onto me or just are there to try and scare me etc. not once have i actually been hurt other than waking up a little shaken. sometimes being aggressive or laughing in their face works and other times i haven't been able to shake them. main point here is that i have never actually been harmed though.