Thread: Shared-Dreaming Debate of 2015

I disagree with Sivason. In that only experiments will prove SD can exist

I say can exist because it doesn't yet. It will require vast technology, and not just wishful thinking, and B.S. No doubt in the distant future there will in fact be devices that allow one to experience things scanned from one brain and placed into another. But I would want to define shared dreaming as simultaneously experience the dream, either from one point of view/experience or as a pack.

If we take a definition of we just have to have a similar dream then shared dreaming wouldn't mean much. Suppose I fall asleep and enter a lucid dream in which I have good real world recall and mongo-control levels, and so I remember reading some stuff on here and I decided to start deleting things, sure my dream probably starts out nothing like one of Sageous dreams but I just delete everything, then sit in the nothingness for an hour or so then try and fail to build a trinity engine. When I wake up I log in and Inform Sageous of my great proof of shared dreams because it is exactly like the ones he has.

No I don't think so, recently I have had two dreams about teeth falling out does that mean I have had a shared dream with thousands of others including many of you, not unless we have a meaningless definition that shared dreams are just common dreams.

Shared dreams should be like shared sex, both people there in the bed together. Just because you and 2.5 billion other guys have grabbed themselves at least once in their lives does that mean you are part of a mass shared masturbation? Because your lame definitions of different dreams at different times in different places by different people sound like a similar formula for one big sticky mess. Real shared dreaming in the future will be two people laying near each other connected by a super computer.

Yep, it's a complicated issue, and if you prefer to let computers do your thinking for you, I guess you'll just have to wait until somebody invents a shared dreaming machine.

Or you could try, it's not like you have anything to lose. Coolemd, what if I could leave a mark on your body that would probably show as a red shape on your skin when you wake? Get lucid and find me. I won't lead you to water, but I can make you drink.

Originally Posted by The Cusp

if you prefer to let computers do your thinking for you, I guess you'll just have to wait until somebody invents a shared dreaming machine.

No if the computer was doing the 'thinking' (creation/ rendering) then it would be a simulation that is available now, you go online let your brain scan the simulated environment with your eyes as your companions / opponents do the same, a shared virtual world that is rendered entirely by the computer.

To be a shared dreaming machine, it would require that one or more brains create the material that is being scanned (and or integrated) by the computer and then rebroadcast to the sharing dreamers. The computer would merely be the conduit for the shared dream, much as your purely imaginary conduits, except real, where every dreamer would experience pretty much the exact same brain/brains created content in real time or near time. No doubt with the ability to replay the dream content latter, rather then demonstrate its ability via morning pillow marks.