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      Emergancy-paxil and datora

      I have just done Datora recently and I was told not to take my Paxel. If a take a Paxil, could I die? I really need to be taking this paxil and its been 3 days sense i did the datora and i really dont want to die.
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      I tried posting on the help forum but it didnt work. i find the people on this forum to be highly intteligent, so i came here next.

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      Quote Originally Posted by awakened_mind View Post
      I have just done Datora recently and I was told not to take my Paxel. If a take a Paxil, could I die? I really need to be taking this paxil and its been 3 days sense i did the datora and i really dont want to die.
      Please respond emmediatly.

      I tried posting on the help forum but it didnt work. i find the people on this forum to be highly intteligent, so i came here next.
      I used to be a mental health case manager and kept up with what psychiatric medications my clients were taking and did reports on how the drugs seemed to be affecting them, but I cannot answer your question for you. It is something ONLY a medical doctor should answer. Medications aren't something to guess on or get lay opinions on. You should never take the advice of anybody who is not a medical doctor when it comes to things like that.
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      Pharmacists and biochemists might also be useful for giving an accurate, certified opinion, as they deal with chemicals and the effects of them on the body. However, your safest bet is to ask an MD. Not a shrink, or any kind of psychotherapist. Only a medical doctor. It's critical that you take that advice.

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      Serious now

      I am more than qualified and have a doctorate in pharmacy. Here you go. Datura is dangerous, as in it can actually kill you. Hope the experiance was good as long as you did it. It is a 'anti-colinerigic' side effects (other than maybe dying) are dry mouth trouble peeing constipation. Should you take it on paxil? best not to take it at all of course as it is basically 'atropine' the same chemical in 'deadly nightshade' please note the word deadly. But if 3 days have gone by do take your paxil you will be fine there. Could it kill you taking at the same time as paxil? I am going to say not more than it can kill you on any given day. So yes, it can kill you. Now that is not the question, should you still take paxil? Take it now and consider not using datura again.
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      Datura is very Dangerious and the effects everything BUT desirable; They might appear wicked and awesome if you read someone else's story, but you probably failed to properly read thei warnings and them stating "they weren't there to experience it" and thought it was all real. Not only will you not recognise you are tripping, because you think it's real this may also lead to very dangerious situations.

      Delirium is not the same as tripping. I've drank some Tea made from a flower that is closely related to it and more potent in it's alkaloids. I only dared to use 1/5th of a flower and noticed it's peripheral effects: A magical darkness of an evil kind. I had lots of nightmares on it, which I enjoyed, but needless to say: I wouldn't even think of going any further than just that.

      I don't know how paxil might interract with Datura so why don't you just undergo the psychological bullshit you've got youtself into and sit it out for a couple of days? Sleep alot and drink alot, preferably Tea with Honey and Spearmint, which is calming and soothing. After a couple of days see how you're doing. Then again I don't know what happens if you don't take your paxil for one or two days.
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      You really need to talk to your doctor about that. Nobody here is qualified since your doctor knows your medical history and how you are liable to react.
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      it was a very low dose of datura, and it was for dream inhancement purposes (at least thats what I got out of it). I dont plan on doing it again. Its just something I felt I should try once. I had not tooken the correct dosage in the first place. Thanks for the help.

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      Well the I guess you did your Homework on Datura. I read some really interresting dream reports on it. I too have used it for dreaming purposes to great success, but the sinister hex that the plant puts on you is dark and lingers a bit. It's nasty. Even when you intend to continue doing this never exceed the peripheral effects-dose.
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      for doing so would make us Blind for the unimaginable, unparalleled Capacity of and Wisdom contained within our Felt Knowledge;Subconscious Intuition.

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      Stay on Paxil!

      Hmmm, perhaps I am not qualified as you have no proof I have my doctorate in pharmacy. However, I followed up on this today at work using some software. Paxil does not interact with it. However going off paxil is very dangerous. It causes terrible rebound depression and withdrawl. Please do not go off it again. Best to stay away from evil drugs like dautura. However, if you do it again, do not skip your real medication, paxil. Actually, rather than believe a stranger, follow it up yourself, but stay on paxil.
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      Datura is a nerve toxin, not a drug.

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      While I also believe datura is a very "dark" substance. I really question what you mean by this.
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      What I mean, is that most drugs do not produce altered states by themselves. The fit into various receptors in the brain, which in turn release the brain's natural thingys, which is what gets you high.

      Datura doesn't work this way, it's effects are caused by the destruction of your nervous system.

      It's been many years since I've read up the subject, but I'm quite sure that's the case.

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      If anyone cares. Dautura has atropine and scopolamine. They actually just block a natural nerve transmitter acetalcoline. Both chemicals are used in medications (pharmacy geek here) and do not fry nerves, but having this substance blocked can cause death.
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