Thread: OBE Skeptics.

I've been reading little posts here and there from people who are skeptical to the idea that OBEs are possible. That's fine, I've said it before and I'll say it again, that I have no problem with non-believers. I have a problem with assholes.

Why are so many people so goddamn hard pressed to prove OBEs don't exist? What is it to you? If you don't believe they exist, good for you..but what do you care if other people do?

By the way, explain validations? If OBEs aren't real, explain validations. I know people who can, and I have projected in a room with something written on paper, read it, and remembered it when I woke up to see that I was correct, and verified by another party. I'm not too great at RTZ/Etheric OBEs but there are many people who are.

If you can explain to me how that's possible without it being an OBE, I'm very open minded to ideas, unlike most of you skeptics who refuse to even CONSIDER anything but fellow skeptics' opinions. Just because something can't be proven..YET..doesn't mean it is automatically fake. And science isn't god. All knowledge is based on previous knowledge, and all previous knowledge is based on further previous knowledge. Everything...EVERYTHING is RELATIVE, and therefore NO aspect of science can be proven as CERTAIN.

Now before some idiot flames me because of not reading what i said CAREFULLY, I said no aspect of science can be PROVEN as certain. I didn't say nothing is certain. Just that no scientific law/theory/whatever can be proven as certain. All scientific "knowledge" is based on other previous "knowledge", and all scientific "knowledge" is based on the fact that there have not yet been any counter examples, and until there is a counter example, we assume that it is true how it stands. Hahaha. That's a great method. And this is the science-system everyone warships like it's a fucking god. It's not written in stone. It's only "certain" until a counter example comes along, and one often does.

Insulting others' intelligence because of "lack of scientific evidence" is hilariously hypocritical. What is scientific evidence? Scientific evidence is just a couple of words that are supposed to make us feel like we know something. Knowledge is only valid in the context of pre-established knowledge, and that is an inarguable fact. So you're gonna need to chill with the belittling us people who believe in OBEs, it's getting pretty fucking annoying. I don't care if you don't believe it. That's your choice, but is it necessary to be such a goddamn asshole? No. It's not.

There was a time when everyone thought lucid dreams were bullshit too. The idea of the internet? Bullshit. Flying machines? Bullshit. A vehicle that can move faster than sound? Bullshit. But everyone believed it as soon as there was a counter example. The first plane. That rocket car thing. Stephen Laberge came along and proved that lucid dreams actually happen.

Who are you to look down your nose at people who believe in OBEs? If you don't believe it, I really can't blame you, and more power to ya. But you cannot prove that they DON'T exist. So hating on members and even passively suggesting that they are not intelligent or inferior because they believe something that you do not, that you cannot even disprove is completely absurd. Some of you should seriously grow up.


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