Originally Posted by NonDualistic
What I an trying to do is associate the proper labels with the experiences.
Lucid dreaming, I know what that is through direct experience and associate the label by comparing to others descriptions of their direct experiences.
The involuntary OBE and ND direct experiences above seem to correlate to those given labels as well after reading other accounts of such.
The last example I gave , with the mantra and meditative concentration, if not labeled Astral projection, what is a/the apropriate label for that direct experience then?
Remember, labels, are just interpretations of people. Always be aware, of that.
Simply, you have seen a glimpse. Within that glimpse, your true self (if there is such a thing). You notice, that the universe, is literally, you. You created it, you in fact, are it.
Once you do this for the first time, you can work at mastering it. You have a key, to understand immortality, a key, to open the door, to a glimpse, of what existence truly is (i must add, that there is something even beyond this).
I know no label for this. Though, through meditation, we seek to attain this exerience, and then go deeper, and deeper, and even deeper. We go inwards, to know outwards.
[QUOTE=NonDualistic;551000]Can you elaborate? That is if not answered already from the inquiry above.[\QUOTE]
Well, activating and channeling energy or chakras, is meditation in itself.
Though, since you had your eyes open, if you were concentrating on an object, until that was the only object you could see, and then that object dissapeared itself, then you would have been thrown to your center. That is a type of meditation also.
Originally Posted by NonDualistic
I just read up on the Chakras and energy within and such. What I have been doing(without any formal idea) would appear to be oulling the enrgy within( which to me feels like subtle pulsations, almost like electric current would be imagined to be) upward from the lower chakras and then centering in the third eye or middle of the forehead. This is also what it felt like in the involuntary nd obe experiences. I just used those as a pattern to try and do on purpose what happened there. Seems to have worked for one reason or another.
Experimenting with this, it almost seems like one can perpetuate an even flow within or center the energy in one place or another. Any comments? You must realize that I am working withj direct experience without any real association with labels of which I am pretty much ignorant of, though this is not without some purpose.
One night I awoke from a dream with a very strong feeling directed towrads the notion of "thought without words". This has repeated itself on more than one occasion, so I just try to work it in with what I am doing. I just trust in that which comes through me sort of thing.
I mean it very strongly, when i say, don't get attached to the labels people give. Including myself.
They are just interpretations, of things, experiences etc.
One thing relating to what you are doing, may be unrelated to another thing. Regardless if it is claimed to be related.
You are actually pulling "cosmic" energy, into your body and then into your third eye.
This usually automatically happens at night, though not on the same level as it can that can be attained whilst conscious.
Seeing as it is 5:49am, i'm not going to elaborate pointlessy further, at this moment.
I will, however, answer all replies to any future questions, and i can also direct you to resources where you can attain additional information.
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