Thread: Karen659 - OOB experiences

Originally Posted by BigFan

No need to apologize, because, to be honest, I had a feeling that it might be hard to describe, but, I wanted to see what you experienced. I plan to try OBEing soon but I have some things I need to take care of. I have problems with dream recall. I've gone almost a week now with no dreams recalled possibly due to work early in the morning and having only 6hr of sleep those nights. Usually, I sleep another 1-2hr after work. I also want to have more LDs to get a better taste for them, 3 just isn't enough and won't cut it for me Finally, I want to read a whole book on the subject to make sure that I don't jump the boat too soon. With LDing, I went through ETWOLD and at least half of the book as well as reading tutorials, other people's advice, etc.... I am also still waiting for that book by Buhlman which sounds fascinating based on people's comment. It can't get here soon enough If anything comes to mind, I'll be sure to ask. Thanks for the opportunity. BTW, your blog is well laid out

THANK YOU BigFan for the nice words about my blog. It's a labor of love...I want others to be able to do what I do!

As for your problems with dream recall...it's REALLY important that you DO write down in a journal what you do recall in dreams. No matter how little or insignificant it may seem, the idea that you are now recording them tells your subconscious that this is something important in your life and you will find that after a while, the recall become more and more!! Besides, you may see trends and symbols that keep repeating that you need to pay attention to. Another great way to impress the subconscious as to your 'intent' is to read...and you are off to a great start with that!

Just be advised, in your writing here you are saying you are 'not ready' and want to have more LDs and get more sleep before attempting. I think you should just let the Universe decide what is right, and stop telling yourself you need more time! I feel you may be causing a 'block' in your dreams/efforts by doing this, as you are reading all about it, yet saying but 'not yet!!' lol

Buhlmans' book is a must read...it was MY start to all of this and I love his suggestions and techniques. It was the foundation of my start up!

Thanks again for the post...I greatly appreciate hearing from others!!

Good luck, and keep me informed!
Karen

Originally Posted by karen659

THANK YOU BigFan for the nice words about my blog. It's a labor of love...I want others to be able to do what I do!

As for your problems with dream recall...it's REALLY important that you DO write down in a journal what you do recall in dreams. No matter how little or insignificant it may seem, the idea that you are now recording them tells your subconscious that this is something important in your life and you will find that after a while, the recall become more and more!! Besides, you may see trends and symbols that keep repeating that you need to pay attention to. Another great way to impress the subconscious as to your 'intent' is to read...and you are off to a great start with that!

Just be advised, in your writing here you are saying you are 'not ready' and want to have more LDs and get more sleep before attempting. I think you should just let the Universe decide what is right, and stop telling yourself you need more time! I feel you may be causing a 'block' in your dreams/efforts by doing this, as you are reading all about it, yet saying but 'not yet!!' lol

Buhlmans' book is a must read...it was MY start to all of this and I love his suggestions and techniques. It was the foundation of my start up!

Thanks again for the post...I greatly appreciate hearing from others!!

Good luck, and keep me informed!
Karen

Well, it was a well organized blog which is something I liked I've been able to recall 4 dreams the last 2-3 days, so, maybe dream recall is improving. I find it pretty difficult to write down dreams, I usually just type them up and try to write a word or two on a piece of paper, but, my problem is that even when I wake up in the middle of the night, it seems that I am missing my REM periods. I had some rocky sleep the last 2 days so that's likely why my recall was up Well, it's more about the risks than anything else. I would love to have OBEs, but, reading some people's experiences or reviews can really get to you especially if you aren't looking to add trouble into your life. When I was reading some reviews for Buhlman's book, two reviews got me really thinking.
One review mentioned this:
"From my own experience, I would like to make you aware that while OBE's on a conscious level are possibile, they may also invite an undesirable element into your home (uninvited beings). That can be disturbing if you find yourself to be hypersensitive to their presence. Then you will need to make it clear to them- with lovingkindness in your heart- that they are not invited and need to leave (simple verbal communication, silent communication, meditation, and playing spiritual music did the trick)."

Another review said this:
"But I stopped trying because of nagging concerns about the "wisdom" of leaving my body. Often times we are so concerned with whether we "can" do something that we don't consider whether we "should" do it. I wondered whether another spirit could occupy my body (with or without my knowledge)while I was out of it. Buhlman says that this can not occur and yet I found an account on the web written by an experienced astral projector in which this exact thing happened. Also, considering that astral projection is done while in a hynogogic state (between wake and sleep) the experience is much like a dream with elements of reality and fantasy woven together. I wondered what other things could occur. Just yesterday, quite by accident I came upon a news story at Salon Magazine about a man who was just convicted of murdering his small children while having an out-of-body experience. He claimed that during this experience he came under the control of an evil influence, but nonetheless took responsibility for his crimes and was sentenced to life in prison (he also attempted to kill his wife)."

Whether everything written here is true or not is debatable, however, I do find it possible that possession can occur, since, I mean we are leaving the body empty if you think about it. To me, if I know for sure, that OBEs can't possibly lead to possessions, etc..... Then I would start trying to OBEs within in a beat. Your thoughts?

Originally Posted by BigFan

Whether everything written here is true or not is debatable, however, I do find it possible that possession can occur, since, I mean we are leaving the body empty if you think about it. To me, if I know for sure, that OBEs can't possibly lead to possessions, etc..... Then I would start trying to OBEs within in a beat. Your thoughts?

OK, first let me say I DO understand your concerns, however, I just can't stress enough that it is your FEARS that drive what happens when OOB. You can't let them 'control' your actions, and KNOWING you are safe, doing whatever you feel is enough to protect you, will give you that 'peace of mind' to do what you wish to do. (I use 'white light' to surround me, and ask that those who are 'at or above my level of development' come to help)

I do not disagree that there IS negativity out there, and those who can affect your actions but ONLY if you allow them to with your fears!! YOU give them that control with your fears...otherwise you stay in control.

Yes, you are 'out of body' BUT you are not 'disconnected from it' as there is always that 'silver cord' that grounds your 'energy' to the physical and keeps you safe.

If you fear, then I would advise you NOT to do it, as "thoughts are things" much more quickly in the astral, and emotions....ANY emotions (excitement, sadness, fear, etc)....are not conducive to astral learning. It is a learning curve to keep calm, and unemotional...and it is imperative NOT to be fearful.

Having said that, however, I DO hope you try, as you never know what you are capable of until you try. You will find that the Universe guides your learning, never allowing you go to to far too fast. There has been such little 'baby steps' each time I got out, so that the next time I would go just that much further.

Every individual is different...and not knowing your background I can't tell you how best to proceed. My answer to is to go with what 'feels right'...and you can't go wrong!

Keep me posted...
Karen

Just another thought...negativity FEEDS on fear is a better way to look at it. They are attracted to the 'easy' target and will try to exploit the 'control' that is given to them with it.

Being confident, unemotional, affirming your intentions, and surrounding yourself with white light protection or whatever works for you will all make for a very successful exit! -K

Originally Posted by karen659

OK, first let me say I DO understand your concerns, however, I just can't stress enough that it is your FEARS that drive what happens when OOB. You can't let them 'control' your actions, and KNOWING you are safe, doing whatever you feel is enough to protect you, will give you that 'peace of mind' to do what you wish to do. (I use 'white light' to surround me, and ask that those who are 'at or above my level of development' come to help)
.....
Keep me posted...
Karen

Originally Posted by karen659

Just another thought...negativity FEEDS on fear is a better way to look at it. They are attracted to the 'easy' target and will try to exploit the 'control' that is given to them with it.

Being confident, unemotional, affirming your intentions, and surrounding yourself with white light protection or whatever works for you will all make for a very successful exit! -K

Thanks for the reply. I haven't ruled it out yet, I just want to make sure I'm clear on any and all possibilities before trying anything. I'll keep you updated as much as possible

Great thread, thank you for sharing your experiences.

I had heard or OBE's before, and had a very basic idea of what was involved. After some brief research though, I'm starting to think that I might have experienced the beginning of an OBE on several occasions. I think the key entry point for me might be sleep paralysis. I would love to get any input or advice from you.

I posted this a while back to get help working through sleep paralysis to enter a lucid dream. It pretty much sums up my possible OBE experiences.

I have experienced SP over 100 times now (over many years). The two occasions that I did just relax, the results were the same. About 5 years ago, I was stuck in a SP and false awakening cycle. I kept waking up into SP, or at least I though I was. It seemed to go on forever, so I just gave up the fight and let go. I immediately lifted out of my body and found myself zooming though a tunnel. the second time happened last week. I had been reading more about SP and the WILD technique and was a little better prepared to stay calm. So, when it happened I just stayed calm and let go (still didn't like it much though). The voices, whispers, footsteps, buzzing, etc were present as with most all of my SP experiences. The more I let go though, the louder and more jumbled the audio became. I felt like I was hearing the audio version of the countless neurons firing in my brain. The intensity increased until I reached some sort of pentacle. Like before, I felt myself lift out of my body and began zooming though a tunnel. On the first occasion of being in the tunnel, I decided to go find God. I ended up in black, empty, thick, nothingness where I floated around for a while trying to interpret the meaning of my experience. I was fully conscious at this point. After a while I was pulled back though the tunnel (very quickly this time) and found myself back in SP. With last week's tunnel experience, I was elated that I had gutted out SP and was on my way to a potential LD. I must have been too excited though, because I was quickly jerked back to my body and into SP.

I have had over 40 lucid dreams. Aside from the cases noted above, there have been a few other times that, after becoming lucid, I found myself zooming through the tunnel. Any experience that has began or ended with the tunnel has had a slightly different feel than a typical lucid dream. I'm not sure I could explain the differences very well. One notable thing is that I seem to have more of a sense of feeling myself as an actual presence with the tunnel related experiences. With my typical lucid dreams, I still feel as though I have a dream body (especially with flying), but just not to the same degree as with the tunnel experiences. I suppose you could say that feel more like I am made up of something "real".

At any rate, sorry for the lengthy post. Any input would be great. Oh, any suggestions on good OBE related books?

Thanks in advance for any input or advise!

Justin

Originally Posted by JustinS

Great thread, thank you for sharing your experiences.

I had heard or OBE's before, and had a very basic idea of what was involved. After some brief research though, I'm starting to think that I might have experienced the beginning of an OBE on several occasions. I think the key entry point for me might be sleep paralysis. I would love to get any input or advice from you.

I posted this a while back to get help working through sleep paralysis to enter a lucid dream. It pretty much sums up my possible OBE experiences.



I have had over 40 lucid dreams. Aside from the cases noted above, there have been a few other times that, after becoming lucid, I found myself zooming through the tunnel. Any experience that has began or ended with the tunnel has had a slightly different feel than a typical lucid dream. I'm not sure I could explain the differences very well. One notable thing is that I seem to have more of a sense of feeling myself as an actual presence with the tunnel related experiences. With my typical lucid dreams, I still feel as though I have a dream body (especially with flying), but just not to the same degree as with the tunnel experiences. I suppose you could say that feel more like I am made up of something "real".

At any rate, sorry for the lengthy post. Any input would be great. Oh, any suggestions on good OBE related books?

Thanks in advance for any input or advise!

Justin

Adventures Out of the body: How to experience out of body travel by Williman Bulhman. That should be the name or about that. It's a great book since it begins with the author's experience along with explaining his reasoning and why the planes exist, etc.... and ending with some techniques and FAQ. I've only read 7 pages or so but it was well written

You could pick up any of Robert Bruce's books. Also, anything by Robert Monroe is sure to be a fun read.

Thanks for the advice on the books. I bought one of Robert Bruce's books today, and plan on ordering Buhlman's. In my laziness, I missed Karen's post that she started off with Buhlman's book. Anyway, these will give me a great start. Thanks!

Forgot to mention that for some of Robert Monroe's books, you can find a pdf of it online

Just a quick reply to let everyone know I have been away for a few days and am looking forward to responding to your posts in the next few days. Sorry for the delay but big thanks for the posts! . -Karen

Hi again everyone! Back at home, and time to respond. Although, I see Robot Butler and BigFan has done a great job recommending the books for OBEs. Yes, William Buhlman was the first and best books I have read. He has two - Adventures Beyond the Body and Secrets of the Soul. I highly recommend both. ALL of Robert Monroe's books are excellent as well. There is even one by Rosalind McKnight who worked with Monroe that I enjoyed reading called Cosmic Journeys.

Reading is just as important as journaling your experiences, as they both impress upon your subconscious the important and focus you want to place on having OBEs. The best advice I can give you is to make sure you are writing them down, and then learn to just 'let go' when things happen. We are such 'emotional' beings here on the physical plane that it is difficult to learn to just 'let go' at times....yet that is exactly what works best when OOB. Losing your 'fears' and replacing them with a 'knowing' that you are always safe and in control of any situation is key to moving about and widening your experiences.

Once comfortable being 'out', as you are getting to be JustinS with your tunnel experiences, you should try to 'affirm' any intentions that you wish to do, such as the time you wanted to 'find God'. Set these intentions BEFORE you get into sleep so your mind is preprogrammed to recall what you wanted to do easier. It doesn't always work, but many times I have received just what I asked to have. Look for a 'signal' that you are transitioning out - some anomaly, or familiar scene, or even looking at your hands - and then recall your affirmation and move by intention. The noises you hear are frequently mentioned as 'signals' in many people's accounts, including mine! I know if I hear the TV on while I'm lying down 'sleeping' then it's a sure signal that I'm getting out! If I feel vibrations I 'intensify' them (by willing them stronger) or sometimes I can just 'sit up and roll out'!!

These are just some suggestions I have, and I don't know if they'll help you. Getting OOB is such an individualized experience, but yet, one that IS possible for everyone! I enjoy answering your questions, and greatly appreciate your praise and comments on my blog. Thanks again for the posts!!

-Karen

Finally got around to writing up my latest - not much, but you never know who may benefit something from it! Thanks for reading...

April 22, 2010

This experience is a bit disjointed as I only have pieces of recall that I attempted to put together into some sort of sequence. I know I did all these things and so much more, but honestly I cannot recall much of what or when it was done.

I first became aware of my ‘floating’ parts of my body which was my usual signal that I was ready to exit. I was VERY aware in the sense that I ‘felt’ awake and conscious, despite the floating sensation. Figuring I’ll just ‘go with it’, I attempted to roll out and exit, finding if very difficult to do! There was a lot of pulling and tugging required, but with some effort found myself out and moving to the door.

Halfway across the room, I remember I wanted to do something special, but couldn’t recall what it was! So I just decided to affirm ‘to the door!’ but then couldn’t decide which door I wanted! (Both the front door and side door have been different exit points for me). I moved to the side door (which was just a bit farther away) but then found I couldn’t move! Standing next to the window, I decided I’d just ditch out the window!

I felt SO very aware and conscious, everything was so crystal clear and in proper ‘physical’ form and it was actually a different sensation than I was used to. Knowing I was ‘out’, I just moved into the wall slowly by the window, but surprisingly found it hard to get through! I even remember thinking, "wow, I hope I don’t get stuck between the walls" – knowing full well that I wouldn’t! But the clear conscious thinking was just amazing to me.

I saw the ground outside below where I was exiting and remember in order to get fully out, I had to ‘imagine’ I was ‘freefalling’ to the grass below, trusting the knowledge that I couldn’t get hurt falling.

I fell, floating gently, and then was surprised to distinctly FEEL the grass tickling my face as I lay face down on the earth! I was so ‘heavy’ to move and then ‘felt’ someone nearby mentally talking to me. I feel arms around my waist and now begin moving again, happy to have some company to help me go where I wanted.

I remember wanting to zoom up to the trees, but couldn’t – yet I was moving places with this ‘person’ (my feeling – my guide) assisting me. I could hear my own voice clearly communicating with him/her (there was a non-gender feeling) and their answers, but have no idea what we talked about.

At one point I could hear music in the background, like a radio playing as we entered one area, and I remember asking if we could ‘change the station’ as I didn’t care for the type of music that was playing! Later one song I remember hearing, after the ‘station change’, was Uptown Girl.

One request I had was to try to zoom to the moon again, as I have had in the past, and felt the fast backward tunnel movementknowing I should be seeing something like stars, but didn’t. It felt like I wasn’t really getting anywhere, but there was the definite sensation of movement. The other memory I have is of floating and the opening vision of beautiful countryside, and then that of a light brown stone dam surrounded by other stone architecture. I have no idea where or what this was.

Another memory I recall was ‘playing’ with those arms that encircled my waist for this entire experience, feeling them, moving them, and trying to tell him/her what I wanted to do and where I wanted to go.

The last memory is the feeling of slight waking, finding myself on the couch (as I was), and begging to continue to do more. I could feel buzzing, and willed the vibrations to increase as I didn’t want the experience to end.

Now I sensed those hands again, this time in front of my face, doing something (rubbing them together?) before they proceeded to touch my forehead and trace down my face to my cheeks and chin. I felt SUCH a good ‘tingle’ vibration after that, and again, a second time the hands rubbed together (?), and touched my face from forehead to chin, giving me a wonderful tingling sensation that felt SO good!

It was then that I awoke fully, but as always, those elusive memories with the specific details were lost. I so wish I could put what I ‘felt’ into words, but this is the best I can do.

Thanks for the help Karen. I truly appreciate it. Since I posted on your thread a few weeks ago I have devoured 6 OBE books (William Buhlman, Robert Bruce, and Robert Monroe). Secrets of the Soul is next on my list. I am still in a bit of a daze as I try and process all of this new info. My fears are slowly but surly decreasing. It is really helping me to read through your posts... Thanks!

Originally Posted by JustinS

Thanks for the help Karen. I truly appreciate it. Since I posted on your thread a few weeks ago I have devoured 6 OBE books (William Buhlman, Robert Bruce, and Robert Monroe). Secrets of the Soul is next on my list. I am still in a bit of a daze as I try and process all of this new info. My fears are slowly but surly decreasing. It is really helping me to read through your posts... Thanks!

You are SO welcome, Justin! I truly appreciate hearing that I have helped...

You are doing a great job with your reading! Wow! that is determination and intention!! You'll love Secrets of the Soul, I did! With less fears, more knowledge, and such a keen determination, I KNOW you'll succeed!

Keep me posted!!

Karen

Thanks for sharing your OBE's. I would love to also read your DJ.

Originally Posted by WakingNomad

Thanks for sharing your OBE's. I would love to also read your DJ.

My dream journal is my blog...and it is more complete as it starts back a few years ago. Many of the same posts are here, but there is also other comments you can read that readers have left after a few of them (click on comments below the blog post). You are very welcome to go read it anytime! here's the link: http://www.karen659.blogspot.com/

Starting with the first post (#1) you can get an overview of how I started.

Enjoy!

Karen

5/31/10 Exiting awareness; Possible retrieval with fire

It has been a few weeks since I have had the time and intent to get out of body. It is not because I didn’t want to, but physical life issues and events take precedence at all times and when you need to focus on THIS life, then the OOB life must take a step back.

I am happy to report that life here is now settling down, and going well. I have been in contact recently with a few people who have shared their own OOB experiences and have asked questions, and this, in combination with my reaffirmed intent to begin OBEs again, I was successful in getting out this morning!

I tried a different approach this time, moving to another bedroom after a few hours of sleep instead of my usual ‘traveling couch’ in the living room. I can remember thinking that I may have a more difficult time getting ‘to the door!’ and outside as I would have to travel down a long hallway and navigate through other rooms. This concern carried through into my OBE, as once I did get out, I fully remembered that I had to move a different way to get outside!!

Using my usual technique of white light protection, affirmations, and energy movement visualizations, I felt I was having difficulty getting into the right frame of mind, because I felt so wide awake all the time!

I just relaxed, and let go….and it was then that I heard what I thought was someone in the hallway outside the room. It was odd noises, and then a voice of a relative that I KNEW could not really be in my house! My first instinct was to ‘wake’ and see what’s going on, but then when I realized that this was likely a ‘signal’ I was ready, I ‘let go’ again and willed the vibrations to begin.

I felt soft vibrations, and then made them stronger with intent. Knowing I was nearly ready to separate because I had ‘heard’ those noises as a signal, I then just took the initiative and sat up! I felt heavy, and lots of pulling, but persisted knowing I could do this and rolled out of bed!

Immediately, I was standing next to my bed, fully alert and awake!! My mind was SO very clear in my thinking process, that I remembered I was in a new room and would need to navigate a bit more to get outdoors. (Why I didn’t think to just go through the wall, I don’t know!!)

As I moved to the bedroom door, it was very dark. I affirmed “vision now!” (a new one for me, as I usually used “clarity now!”) and it worked perfectly!! I could see the way out, and moved down the long hallway to the living room where I could see flickering as if the TV was on.

I knew it wasn’t really on, and as I neared the living room, it all became dark again. Once again, I affirmed, “Vision now!” and like a lightbulb, my vision was clear. I moved quickly to the front door, knowing SOMEone was in the living room, but my focus was on getting outside as quickly as possible!

Once outdoors, I began flying…as I SO enjoy that sensation! This time, however, it was not the fast zooming and flipping as I used to do, but a slow methodical movement where I was able to truly enjoy the sensation and views.

As I flew, I remember seeing residences and neighborhood that were not familiar to my own area. At one point, I want to feel that ‘freefall’ sensation, and just opened my arms to slowly fall freely to the earth. Once down on the earth, I saw a tall pine tree and gently floated up to the very top where I could see the pointed tip. It was just so much fun to be so relaxed and comfortable flying.

Now, I know there was more to this experience than what I remember. A few points I do recall was one when I was flying over some electrical or telephone wires – a set of 5 or 6 of them in a group. As I flew over, I could ‘feel’ a static-type buzzing below me that emanated from them!

Another time, I recall getting out of a car (someone was in the car with me, but no recall as to why or what we did), and as I did, a little dog (similar to a Cairn Terrier) came running up to me. She was so happy, jumping up on me and I recall saying, “Hello, girl! How are you?!” at the same time wondering how I knew it was a female dog! (I never had a dog like this)

I also recall meeting another larger dog during this OOB experience, laughing and playing with him and just enjoying it all, but do not know where it fits within the story!

The part that I do remember was the ending of the experience, likely because that was where the memories are the strongest. I entered a room where there was a little girl sitting at a table. She appeared to be a light-skinned black girl less than 5 years old with very, very thin grey (?) hair, very small, as if chronically ill or malnourished. I feel intense sadness associated with her, as if she was so lonely and sick.

I went up to talk with her, and as I got closer, another older female came into the room, a motherly feeling to her. I do not know why they were there, but I knew they had to get out of that room. An older child was just off to my right, but did not interact with me.

Suddenly, I saw ‘smoke’ coming from a corner of the room, and told the mother, “look! There’s smoke! It could be a fire!” and got no response. Getting closer, I was able to now see actual flames starting to burn through the grated area below the smoke, and took control of the situation.

I told the mother, “It IS a fire! Take the baby and go, now!! Get out!!” giving her no option but to quickly gather the child and run out of the room to what looked to be a large parking lot area. The baby is crying, and I can see she is sickly and needs care. I shout for someone to bring them blankets, and that was when all the help arrived. People were coming from all over to help them, and my last recall was watching the family as they were enveloped with those who would provide for them. I faded to full wakefulness at this point.

Was this a ‘retrieval’ of some kind? I don’t know. But I do know that I totally enjoyed being out of body once again, this time in a more relaxed enjoyable manner. I am still amazed that I have such clarity of mind when doing this, feeling as if I am truly ‘awake’ and participating in another life!

Hey man, I'm really, really interested in doing an OBE... I was wondering on how you do it, so I can try and do it myself? Cause I don't exactly know how to do it all that properly, and I've been trying for quite a while now, and I haven't succeeded in doing so.
I currently get about 7 - 8 hours of sleep a night, if that has anything to do with it lol. Thanks in advance!

Originally Posted by SkylerJames13

Hey man, I'm really, really interested in doing an OBE... I was wondering on how you do it, so I can try and do it myself? Cause I don't exactly know how to do it all that properly, and I've been trying for quite a while now, and I haven't succeeded in doing so.
I currently get about 7 - 8 hours of sleep a night, if that has anything to do with it lol. Thanks in advance!

Hi SkylerJames!

Thanks for the post and if you are really interested, the best I can tell you is to start reading and researching as much as possible!! William Buhlman and his books were my start - he gives such good advice on different techniques to try and what to expect.

The next best thing is to be keeping a dream journal...you must write down your dreams, no matter how wild or thought to be insignificant, as this impresses upon your subconscious that you will be paying close attention to them from now on.

You can find in my blog a few posts where I describe my technique if you are interested. Otherwise, read, read, read....books, forums, anything on this subject. NO one technique or experience is the same.....

You say you've been trying for a while now, I'm curious what are you doing to try? Know that it takes time and focused 'intent', sometimes for a long long time before you are able. But, IMO, it IS something that EVERYone can do eventually!!

Thanks for the post,
Karen

June 13, 2010 5:30am – 6:15am
124) Into the Earth again; Possible picnic/swim retrieval

On my 'traveling couch', I became aware of noises like the TV was on in the living room where I was lying, and knew this to be my usual signal that I was about to get OOB. As I think this, I hear someone coming into the room and to the couch where I am lying to give me a hug.

I feel the ‘energy’ of this hug more than a physical touch, and am now aware it’s my daughter (who is not here in the house at this time). As she hugs me, she states, “Pretty people!” (?) and starts to walk back toward her room.

I roll out of body and wanted to follow her, so I shouted her name, but as I moved out, I floated up toward the ceiling and realized my vision was SO clear!! I could see perfectly out my front window and so wanted to go out! So I shouted again to my daughter, “I’m going to take off for a little bit!”

Floating up, I actually bumped into the ceiling and at that point realized I wasn’t going to go out that way. Determined to get out, I thought if I can’t go up, I’ll go down! So I affirmed ‘into the Earth!” to try to get out that way!

(I remembered Rosalind McKnight had done this on her travels with Robert Monroe and I had done this one other time (see my blog http://karen659.blogspot.com/2007/10/into-earth.html). However, that time upon getting into the Earth very deep, I started panicking a bit and transitioned quickly. This time I felt confident I could do it!)

I started moving down into the floor, seeing my basement and then into the earth. It was total darkness, a pure 3D blackness with a sense of movement that became more apparent as I saw tiny specks white ‘sparkles’ whizzing past me (rather like moving through space with the stars!) I even remember doing a one armed superman pose as I flew!

As I’m watching these sparkles, they became more of an organized pattern to them, and eventually became beautiful patterns of ‘lace-like’ structures that formed more complete ‘lace-like’ structures! It was just so beautiful to see these patterns, and I tried to take note of their specific pattern to remember the details, but all I recorded was, “it’s just like small pieces of perfect lace (coming at me with the sense of movement) with swirling and fleur-de-lis (swan?) patterns that create a larger more perfect ‘lace’ type structure!”

The next memory was of feeling intense ‘heat’ and knowing I was ‘within the Earth’. I realized that the last time I was here I felt fear and returned. This time I clearly remember thinking, “I’m safe, I’m OOB and I can’t get hurt!”

The heat built to a point where now I felt an INTENSE ‘magnetic-type’ energy sensation, as if inside a huge magnetron (don’t ask me how I ‘knew’ this but that’s what I thought at the time!) I then realized if I’m inside the Earth, it must be due to the iron core.

(Whether this is even possible, I don’t know, but I’m sharing my thoughts at the time) The all encompassing tense tight sensation nearly paralyzed me as I stopped moving. I was not afraid, but I did not know what was happening.

My next recall was in a room, bouncing around from one wall to the other, having fun, and thinking that this ‘magnetism’ somehow allowed me to bounce around like this!

This room was felt to be my bedroom, but nothing like it is in real life. The radio was playing next to the bed, but I knew it wasn’t supposed to be on. This ‘signal’ told me that I was still OOB, and to prove it, I reached over and touched it, and it turned off! I said, “darn! I just woke myself up “(which in reality I still wasn’t awake!)

Details exactly what happened in the room are few, but I do know there were people there I was talking to, and at some point, I remembered it was the same young mother from the next scene, as I was trying to convince her it was ok to leave to go swimming with the children.

The next memory was now outside on a picnic with these same people, this time I recall it was a mother, 2-3 young children (two boys at least) and their grandmother. They are sitting at the picnic table, and I’m telling them again it’s ok to go to the pool and swim, but they indicated “they didn’t want supervision”(?). The boys now were all sticky and dirty from some ice cream and chocolate syrup they just ate, and I thought this would be the best time to convince them to go swimming, as it would help ‘clean up’ the kids!

They eventually left, and now I’m sitting at picnic table trying to record what I remembered, but still aware I was OOB! However, at least I this time I knew it wasn’t going to record since I’m still out and just laid the recorder on the table, giving up.

I moved away, looking back at the empty picnic table, and feeling confident that everyone had left the area. I then transitioned to full wakefulness, knowing NOW I could record what little details I could remember!

(In hindsight, I am not sure if this was another retrieval or not, but I did feel compelled to convince these people that they had to move to another area and felt happy when they did!)

Thanks man, will check it all out. And you asked how I do it, unless I misread it. xD
What I do, is I go to bed, lay motionless for a while, think about random stuff, and then I wait for SP to take my body. when I think it's good enough, I try and think about being light, and floating up, though I'm going to change that to actually physically ''grabbing a rope'' to pull myself up out of my body. I'm pretty sure that's what I do lol. but yeah I'll definitely will check out your blog posts and everything. Thanks man.

Originally Posted by SkylerJames13

Thanks man, will check it all out. And you asked how I do it, unless I misread it. xD
What I do, is I go to bed, lay motionless for a while, think about random stuff, and then I wait for SP to take my body. when I think it's good enough, I try and think about being light, and floating up, though I'm going to change that to actually physically ''grabbing a rope'' to pull myself up out of my body. I'm pretty sure that's what I do lol. but yeah I'll definitely will check out your blog posts and everything. Thanks man.

Keep at it, you'll succeed! The only change I might offer is to NOT think 'random thoughts', but use that time to impress upon your consciousness the intention that you are going OOB. Visualize white light surrounding you, and white light energy coming into to top of your head and moving through. Affirm "my mind remains aware as my body falls asleep".....Keeping your mind active helps you stay 'aware'.....just a suggestion!

Karen

125) Bits of OOBEs – crossing over, meeting up, tower view

It has been a few weeks since I’ve been able to have a ‘good’ OBE in the sense that it’s one I can share in any type of story. It seems that last few OOBE have been so ‘deep’ that the memories are more disjointed and haphazard, and upon waking, so fast to disappear that I do not have the ability to recall much of it.

One experience I had recently was one I have had before, so I will share with you what I remember. I was in that ‘half-asleep’ stage, one where I know I am ‘sleeping’ yet aware that something is going on. I hear this very loud roar, and this time it was accompanied by a sudden all encompassing ‘blackness’.

My feeling at this time was as if I was in a car as it was being washed away in a mudslide! It was sudden and felt like an ‘ending’ of some kind, and it was my peaceful acceptance that I was transitioning to the ‘other side’ that I remember the most. I was not fearful nor upset in any way, almost as I knew if this was to be the ‘end’ of my physical existence. In thinking about this, I believe my OOB experiences have given me such a firm belief in the existence of our ‘selves’ after physical death, that even if I find myself ‘transitioning’, whether in dream state or for real, I have absolutely no fear. That is such a powerful feeling to have!

Another recent OBE was very deep and I have only glimpses of recall that don’t make a lot of sense. What I recorded was that it started by talking with someone who had discovered a ‘hole’ in the earth, one that led to a cave-like labyrinth underground. I remember peering into the very deep hole, seeing the different types of ‘rock formations’ and talking with those there.

Next memory is of a man who was not careful by the hole and proceeded to fall in! Thankfully I was able to grasp his arm and bring him back up to solid ground. The next recall was the group of us in the car and there was something unusual that happened in the car that made me become aware that I was OOB. I took off, and remember one male ‘guide’ stayed with me the entire time. Only memories I have are of being in a ‘courtyard’ of sorts, and the medieval type dress that the men were wearing.

The only ‘control’ I remember having was flying up toward the big beautiful moon, knowing I’d like to meet a friend who also loved astronomy, and with a sudden but huge flash of light, knew he was there with me! It lasted very briefly, yet was profound enough to KNOW that it was him! (Correlating later found that my friend also had a ‘hypnogogic’ image of my eyes looking back at him while he was in a meditative mindstate!)

At the very end of this disjointed experience, I recall walking around a ‘flea market’ of some kind, where items are being sold that people no long want to have. A few women came up to me, and gave me some green color trinkets which I appreciated, but then gave them away to another who needed it more.

This was another ‘deep’ experience, IMO, due to the transition back to wakeful consciousness having many ‘levels’. Each time I moved ‘back’ toward wakefulness, I would attempt to record my experiences, but somehow knew I was not ‘awake enough’ to be physically doing it. This happened at least three times before I found myself fully awake enough to actually record this. Each time I ‘thought’ I was recording, more and more memories were lost.

This last OBE was just recently, and again, I knew I was out of body, but wasn’t able to fully control my actions. I was in a 'half-sleep' state, as I could still hear outdoor sounds from the window, when I found myself ‘lifting’ up a tower of some sort. At one point, I became aware my daughter was with me as I was lifting!!!

It was a totally different exit, but I KNEW I was out!! My daughter and I moved up high from the room we were in, holding hands, and found ourselves exiting at the top of a 'tower' like structure. I had wanted to 'show her' something beautiful, and at the very top, she became frightened because we were up so high. We were overlooking a BEAUTIFUL shimmering landscape - I can still recall the lake, rolling hills, and so many vibrant colors!

To ease her fears of going too high, I held onto the 'railing' at the top of the tower to show her we would not go any higher as my other hand still held her. She was amazed at the beauty, as was I...and even more amazing for me, I was astounded at the 360 degree vision I had!! I could see ALL around me without moving or turning!!!

This experience happened very quickly, and all at once...and I recall I returned to body differently too, with this long falling sensation before transitioning to full awareness.