Thread: OBE or something else...

Yeh pain happens like it does in the waking world.

Here's one of my experiences(don't know what to call these types of dreams)

I fell asleep and found myself in a field, a huge building just exploded before my eyes, somehow I felt I needed to go and help get the people out, (they were jumping out of the windows)or help put out the fire, so I ran towards the building, there was smoke everywhere, I only got within a few hundred yards and I felt the actual burning from the heat on my skin and started choking on the smoke, there were firemen everywhere,a fireman came up to me and told me to get as far away as possible and they will sort it out. Everything seemed just like it would happen in real life. The firemen were calm, but full on, I was choking on the smoke and the heat was unbareable. It was not like an ordinary dream, where strange things can happen and you can fly and mad things happen that's totally acceptable. I ran to a castle nearby for safety. Then I woke up and remembered the fireman, and the way they were acting, like it was totally serious and real. Then I remembered how the smoke and heat felt real, and the burning on my skin, and that I couldn't help even if I wanted to, it was strange.

What If the anesthetic he used didn't work and pain is what sent me into the black abyss.... could that point to something else?

It felt so real that I couldn't just make something up in my head and get up from the ground. No flying, no angel after death, no Flak Vest, (what was used to stop flak when jumping out of airplanes in WWII.) nothing that I could've possibly thought up at that point was going to save me. It was like I was actually bound by the rules of the waking world, except my mind wasn't in the waking world at that moment.

Sounds like you had a dream within a dream. You experienced one dream, blacked out through the pain, and went into another, and experienced more pain, then woke up. I don't know why pain happens in dreams, after all were supposed to be in bed asleep and nothing physical is actually happening to our bodies, but if our more ethereal energetic bodies feel pain the same in dreams as in the waking world, then they must be just as real as our physical counterparts.
Maybe someone else can chime in and give us some knowledge

I do like the idea that I had a dream within a dream. However it may be, I was not asleep when I blacked out...

I Literally did have an avulsion as mentioned... Its mentioned in my record (In the Waking world). It listed:

"Patient Blacked out while HM started administering stitches to Avulsion:
Index finger, R. Hand. Patient was out for approx. seven minutes. Patient stated 'I feel weird...' immediately before he blacked out."

Trust me I wish it didn't happen. The experience I had was weird, but, prodigeously fascinating. I would like to have another but hopefully not in the same way as the first one I have had.

I hope someone has some answers though. Not that your post wasn't an answer though ashberry.

Oh I'm sorry Silvers, I thought they both were dreams you had in sleeping world.
I have blacked out and not had any conscious happenings, maybe you entered a
time slip to a past life, I have past lifes come to me in dreams, with dress code exactly as it would have been, hey...you could have even been a soldier in WW2
many peoples past lives are revealed to them in altered states especially dreams....if you believe in this kind of thing

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Now you have my question to which I have been trying to answer ever since I saw that....

Originally Posted by ashberry

Sounds like you had a dream within a dream. You experienced one dream, blacked out through the pain, and went into another, and experienced more pain, then woke up. I don't know why pain happens in dreams, after all were supposed to be in bed asleep and nothing physical is actually happening to our bodies, but if our more ethereal energetic bodies feel pain the same in dreams as in the waking world, then they must be just as real as our physical counterparts.
Maybe someone else can chime in and give us some knowledge

Pain doens't happen in the body, it happens in the mind. Whenever you feel pain, it's just because your sensors in any part of the body signal to your brain that something is going on there and the brain interprets it as pain and sends back that pain-signal to that body part so that it moves away from the pain source. But sometimes this mechanism doesn't work and that's why there are people that don't experience pain - they can put their hands in a stove, feel their hands being burned, yet they don't experience pain, because that's a process that should happen in the brain, but somehow it's not functioning. The same happens in plants - they sense being touched, being cut, etc, but because they don't have a brain to interpret the signals, they don't experience pain.
Reversely, you can experience pain in dreams. If the dream is very vivid and there's some level of belief that it is real or at least realistic, your mind will feel pain. No need for the signals coming from the limbs - the brain tricks itself into believing that it received such signals from your dream body and reacts as expected, generating pain.

I don't think it was an OBE, because those are usually of the present moment, but it could have been. It sounds to me more like you had a dream that was very realistic because it was a past life memory.