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      Yeah, its been scientifically proven (what a shock!). They scanned the brain of a guy while he was lucid dreaming and found that parts of his brain were active that were previously thought to only be active when you are awake. Yet he was sound asleep. So ya they proved it like that.
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      I wannabe a Jedi too! LOL Seriously though...I'm not knocking your practice really...just the terminology. I practice Similar things but call them other words. I mostly deal with spirits because I lack empathy but can see things blatantly that most are blind too.

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      After all, what about black holes? Lets define them: They are something deep in space out of anyones reach, they suck everything into them even light. So someone here once told me that I'm stupid, well he didn't say it that directly, because I of thinking that black holes dont exist, but how can you prove that something exists if you cant see, touch, smell, taste or hear it? I mean if someone says he has seen a black hole himself then he surely is a liar because you cant see a black hole since it sucks light into it.
      Nope, you can't see black holes. But you can prove them through light distortion and all stuff like that. They are completely provable. There's also one at the middle of every galaxy I believe. Do your research.

      You can also prove lucid dreaming, as has been done with the whole eye movement thing. Do your research.

      You can pretty much prove anything that exists. But telekinesis, and everything that goes around with it? Nope, can't prove that....funny that. Oh, you mean you can spin a small, specially shaped piece of paper by having your hands near it? Oh....fantastic....that can't be explained by electrostatic fields, body heat, or anything like that. Simply MAGIC<!>

      Seriously, no-one can ever provide proof for it, which kinda suggests...you know....that it's bull. You can say all you want, but that's the crux of it. And pretty much every example of so-called telekinesis can be explained away by science. Just because you want to be able to create shields, or throw psi-balls at people or whatever the hell it is you do, doesn't mean that it's at all possible. Sorry, you're just gunna have to learn to live within the confines of the known universe.

      Nothing stopping you trying it out in a lucid dream though. Which, contrary to what someone posted earlier in this thread, is exceptionally more believable than psionics.

      Please don't come at me with the typical "You're just closed-minded" response. Because all that says is "You've made some good points, but I dont want to even begin to accept that you could be right." I keep an open mind to things generally, but I don't jump at the idea of controlling the world with thoughts.

      I welcome any rebuttals, as long as they actually make any shred of sense. Or proof? Anyone have any proof? *cue useless youtube videos of spinny paper wheels*

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      Quote Originally Posted by Delphinus View Post
      Well put.

      Oh, Corpse, I was curious as to exactly what you practice.
      Just a lot of EM and currently I am trying to talk with my subconscious.



      @KingYetiTeffa:
      Since you said you don't want our "oh your just closed minded" junk. I'll give you this instead:

      Here OBEs, dream precognition, sharing dreams, and other freaky paranormal things can be discussed. Note that this particular forum is ONLY for members who BELIEVE in the aforementioned topics.
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      Quote Originally Posted by Corpse View Post
      Just a lot of EM and currently I am trying to talk with my subconscious.



      @KingYetiTeffa:
      Since you said you don't want our "oh your just closed minded" junk. I'll give you this instead:
      Talking to ones subconscious is a very enlightening experience.

      I started off awhile ago in my meditations deciding to address, and/or put my foot down on the random thoughts that popped into my head while I was trying too meditate instead of pushing them away. After four 30min sessions of addressing my subconscious problems instead of suppressing them it actually helped me stop my internal dialog faster and easier, I also feel more at peace with myself.

      I then decided to start off by just asking simple questions during meditation and stopping my internal dialog long enough for some sort of reply. What started off as random bursts of emotion and pictures. Now is sort of translated into almost words, its hard to explain, its like I learned it's language instead of it learning mine.

      The subconscious is a powerful ally that will treat you well if you treat it well. Learning to communicate with one's sub-c is definitely a path to self growth.
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      Hi I'm new to this sort of thing.

      I believe psi abilities exist.

      I believe that I'm a precognitive dreamer as there has been a couple of times what I've dreamt happened.

      Here's an example. It was a while back that's all I can remember now, of the age factor.

      Anyway, I had a dream my mum and dad had a fight and split up. A while later my mum and dad had a BIG falling out which they had never done before and my mum was about to leave but I stopped her.

      Also here's another strange dream. Tornado's appeared all over my city and wiped it out. I live in Scotland and such an incident never exists. But that's not what bothers me. My dad, my older sister and I had the same dream. Which I find particularly strange.

      Now the typical weather is changing and strange cloud formations appear which my Dad says he's never seen before. I am worried in case the dream happens.

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      I too am trying to talk to my sub-C (I call it my dream guide even though I'm awake lol It just sounds cool) anyhow I read that you need to get your mind into the deeper states of meditation like alpha then communicate your will. So then that way you have less mental static from extraneous thoughts. I would like help with this if there is any advice.
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      I don't count these as true lucids because they where not very clear, but until I have my first real lucid these will do.)

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      Hmmm, well alpha is basically just daydreaming. Try to get into a state of mind like that the normal way anyone else would! You could also to meditate a lot or using brainwave software. Message me if you would like more details on the brainwave software.
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      I looked into this awhile back, tried a few techniques, then came to a realization.

      Give Wizard's First Rule, by Terry Goodkind, a read. The bit that directly relates to the title especially.

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      Thanks corpse I have heard of brainwave entrainment software but don't know here to get a good one. Also I did not mean how do i reach alpha state. I was asking if this was the right way to go about trying to talk to my sub c. I appreciate the help and if you have any insight into this question that would be great too thanks man.
      Man of steel I will give it a look thanks.
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      I don't count these as true lucids because they where not very clear, but until I have my first real lucid these will do.)

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      wow, this sounds pretty awesome. Talking with the subc and stuff. I've actually kindof been doing this, even though I didnt know what it was. I guess guided meditation is simelar, but instead of talking you're suggesting your subc to cooperate. I should try talking.

      Also, the correction of thought patterns sounds great. I have problems with my brain, I get into habits of thinking badly sometimes. Meditation is always a good way to go.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Man of Steel View Post
      I looked into this awhile back, tried a few techniques, then came to a realization.

      Give Wizard's First Rule, by Terry Goodkind, a read. The bit that directly relates to the title especially.
      Thanks for that, I read it and its great! I bought the whole series.
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      Sub-C was a submarine in the game Startropics.
      This was that cult, and the prisoners said it had always existed and always would exist, hidden in distant wastes and dark places all over the world until the time when the great priest Cthulhu, from his dark house in the mighty city of R'lyeh under the waters, should rise and bring the earth again beneath his sway.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Man of Steel View Post
      I looked into this awhile back, tried a few techniques, then came to a realization.

      Give Wizard's First Rule, by Terry Goodkind, a read. The bit that directly relates to the title especially.
      Wizard's First Rule (from Wizard's First Rule): "People are stupid. [...] They will believe a lie because they want to believe it's true, or because they are afraid it might be true."



      (You forget that real magic does exist in this novels world..)
      This was that cult, and the prisoners said it had always existed and always would exist, hidden in distant wastes and dark places all over the world until the time when the great priest Cthulhu, from his dark house in the mighty city of R'lyeh under the waters, should rise and bring the earth again beneath his sway.

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      I used to dabble in psionics a lot a few years ago. Back then, I seemed to have a knack for telepathy but since I had no one to practice with... I couldn't hold much interest in it.

      I've only recently started to get back into it. Right now I'm practicing in basic energy work, healing, tk, telepathy and dreamwalking. Lots and lots of dreamwalking attempts for me. xP

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      i gave psionics a shot and i got obsesed with it. i loved the sound of psi balls, but i couldnt do it so i gave psi completely up, but i realise now that psi balls probably arent real, because you would hear about it all the time from believers AND skeptics, but there are no skeptics, because noones heard of them. so i figure that ive been chasing the wrong thing, so i should start up again on something more common.

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      Quote Originally Posted by ShadowmanX View Post
      My PK and EM is actually too weak to prove anything but here I posted a video, watch it: http://www.dreamviews.com/community/...9&postcount=16
      Everyone give a big applause to ShadowmanX, the fraud.

      The real maker of the video, mattman (i.e. not you), admitted himself it was fake and just a social experiment. It's a well known fact, specially at the unexplained mysteries forum where mattman discussed the experiment at the time.

      Congratulations, you've just lost all of your credibility. Liar.
      Last edited by Scatterbrain; 12-10-2008 at 09:16 PM. Reason: typo
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