Thread: 5000 year old WILD technique. Very easy, and very effective.

I definiteley need to give this a try.

Hi guys ...with the risk of sounding totally stupid here I just gotta ask you ...what is WILD ?

It means Wake Initiated Lucid Dream.

There are two types of lucid dream...

A WILD
and a DILD (dream initiated lucid dream)

(Some say there are three, the third being DEILD... but thats kind of a grey area, you'll find out about that one sooner or later)


They refer to HOW you get lucid. Either from within the dream... "Oh I must be dreaming!" or from falling asleep consciously into a dream "oh... a dream is forming around me"

Hope that helps.

oh like that! I never tried WILd then! Sounds cool though.....but the dream state isn't usually the first sleep stage is it? So if dreaming doesn't happen till after you've slept for some time....then how can you go directly into a dream?

Originally Posted by ChaybaChayba

I recently got into meditation, and discovered that you could use it to WILD! I thought I might share it with you guys, because this technique is the easiest one and most effective one I have encountered. The meditation technique I use to WILD is the following:

I close my eyes, and place my attention only on the center of my forehead (between my eyebrows) and on my breath. That's it.

Why does it work? Because that is where the pineal gland, the third eye, the minds eye is located. By imagining sensations at that location, you directly stimulate it. The pineal gland is the gland that secretes melatonin, which is one of the hormones responsible for dreaming. You can increase stimulation the better you can concentrate on it and the better you can induce sensations or vibrations in that area. The better your imagination, the more focussed your mind, and the less you keep talking to yourself inside your head all the time, the better this technique works. The longer you use this technique, the faster you will get into a WILD. It's like a magic button you need to push to get into dreamland.

This is a 5000 year old tantra technique, as the story goes, one of the 112 meditations given by Shiva to his consort Parvati. Still works like a charm, and it's the easiest WILD technique out there IMO. This one directly induces dreaming by stimulating the gland that secretes the dreaming hormones. I also already managed to go into dreaming during meditation without laying down, all I need to do is close my eyes and concentrate for a while. The litteral translation of the tantra technique is the following:


Hope this helps!

Do you have the homepage of that website?

@ChaybaChayba

i appreciate your useful tutorial - could you post some experiences/dream reports?

Originally Posted by spaceexplorer

It means Wake Initiated Lucid Dream.

There are two types of lucid dream...

A WILD
and a DILD (dream initiated lucid dream)

(Some say there are three, the third being DEILD... but thats kind of a grey area, you'll find out about that one sooner or later)


They refer to HOW you get lucid. Either from within the dream... "Oh I must be dreaming!" or from falling asleep consciously into a dream "oh... a dream is forming around me"

Hope that helps.

What's "DEILD"?

Originally Posted by mariamay

oh like that! I never tried WILd then! Sounds cool though.....but the dream state isn't usually the first sleep stage is it? So if dreaming doesn't happen till after you've slept for some time....then how can you go directly into a dream?

Dreaming can happen in all stages of sleep, its just staggeringly more common during REM sleep. I remember seeing somewhere that you do indeed move directly into REM when WILDing, that's just part of the fun of the technique

Originally Posted by DarkMind

What's "DEILD"?

Dream Exit Initiated Lucid Dream.
http://www.dreamviews.com/community/...ad.php?t=62769

The gray area mentioned above is that it is technically a subset of WILD because you move from a waking state(however fragile it may be) into a dreaming one.

Originally Posted by Licity

Dreaming can happen in all stages of sleep, its just staggeringly more common during REM sleep. I remember seeing somewhere that you do indeed move directly into REM when WILDing, that's just part of the fun of the technique





Dream Exit Initiated Lucid Dream.
http://www.dreamviews.com/community/...ad.php?t=62769

The gray area mentioned above is that it is technically a subset of WILD because you move from a waking state(however fragile it may be) into a dreaming one.

Thanks!

I tried this technique dry just a second ago. the visuals I get from it are very vivid... I couldn't get myself from late afternoon wake to a dream state from it because I felt a sensation of something dropping onto my leg and I figured it was likely a spider so I got up and checked, I was uncovered while laying down it was better safe than sorry, but it was likely the very first phantom sensation that I would have felt going into sp.

This technique is great at least for visuals + some auditory hallucinations. I can't promise full fledge wild, but for a mid day dry run, thats not bad results at all.

More later.

right, I just went for a second test run, and I can honestly say that if I tried this in the middle of the night it would work. I went through a series hypnogogics that became full psuedo dreams with audio and even plot. I couldn't get myself to go into sp, but I did feel a large number of sensations.

This is very promising.

I've never been a huge Lovecraft fan, but I was thinking about this story today. It always struck a chord with me.

H.P. Lovecraft's From Beyond:

"What do we know," he had said, "of the world and the universe about us? Our means of receiving impressions are absurdly few, and our notions of surrounding objects infinitely narrow. We see things only as we are constructed to see them, and can gain no idea of their absolute nature. With five feeble senses we pretend to comprehend the boundlessly complex cosmos, yet other beings with wider, stronger, or different range of senses might not only see very differently the things we see, but might see and study whole worlds of matter, energy, and life which lie close at hand yet can never be detected with the senses we have. I have always believed that such strange, inaccessible worlds exist at our very elbows, and now I believe I have found a way to break dawn the barriers. I am not joking. Within twenty-four hours that machine near the table will generate waves acting on unrecognized sense organs that exist in us as atrophied or rudimentary vestiges. Those waves will open up to us many vistas unknown to man and several unknown to anything we consider organic life. We shall see that at which dogs howl in the dark, and that at which cats prick up their ears after midnight. We shall see these things, and other things which no breathing creature has yet seen. We shall overleap time, space, and dimensions, and without bodily motion peer to the bottom of creation." ...

..."Listen to me! The waves from that thing are waking a thousand sleeping senses in us; senses which we inherit from aeons of evolution from the state of detached electrons to the state of organic humanity. I have seen the truth, and I intend to show it to you. Do you wonder how it will seem? I will tell you." Here Trninghast seated himself directly opposite me, blowing out his candle and staring hideously into my eyes. "Your existing sense-organs - ears first, I think - will pick up many of the impressions, for they are closely connected with the dormant organs. Then there will be others. You have heard of the pineal gland? I laugh at the shallow endocrinologist, fellow-dupe and fellow-parvenu of the Freudian. That gland is the great sense organ of organs - I have found out. It is like sight in the end, and transmits visual pictures to the brain. If you are normal, that is the way you ought to get most of it... I mean get most of the evidence from beyond."

Originally Posted by Robot_Butler

I've never been a huge Lovecraft fan, but I was thinking about this story today. It always struck a chord with me.

H.P. Lovecraft's From Beyond:

Nice quote.

Kind of reminds me of why science is always building new ways to enhance senses, or develop new ways of looking at the universe. Telescope, Microscope, x-ray etc. etc.

Exactly. We work so hard to overcome our own limited senses. No matter how many devices we invent, we will still always have to interpret their data with our own senses. Take a picture of X-rays. You still have to convert that picture to the visible spectrum so you can look at it with your eyes.

What if we were able to alter our senses so we could experience more of the universe first hand? What would it take to convince ourselves it was not just hallucination? I wish we had enough evidence now to be able to convince ourselves an OBE/AP was not just a hallucination.

I guess having your servants eaten by giant interdimensional squid would be evidence enough.

Originally Posted by Robot_Butler

I wish we had enough evidence now to be able to convince ourselves an OBE/AP was not just a hallucination.

if we encounter an event in "real" life which happens right after we experienced the exact situation in AP/LD/OBE, would this be a hallucination?

Can some one tell me what I'm doing wrong? I'm focusing on my Third Eye and I sense a pressure there, but I don't get HI at all! Am I trying too hard?

Originally Posted by A dreamer168

Can some one tell me what I'm doing wrong? I'm focusing on my Third Eye and I sense a pressure there, but I don't get HI at all! Am I trying too hard?

no...not necessarily.
you are doing wrong if you force yourself.

the pressure is a good sign - stay focused.
after a while you will see the first images appearin´

When? Sometimes I can see a violet light behind my eyes, but that's it.

I guess I need to describe the pressure to you. It feels likee it's coming from inside my head>
Is this good??

Originally Posted by A dreamer168

When? Sometimes I can see a violet light behind my eyes, but that's it.

I guess I need to describe the pressure to you. It feels likee it's coming from inside my head>
Is this good??

try to stare at the images/lights you see.
after a while the confusing images will turn into complex objects as buildings,roads,etc....
if this happen then you are only a step away from a LD

the inner pressure in your head is a good sign; it shows you that your "3.eye" is active - ingnore it and keep watching the images!

But, I don't see any images.

The closest thing is this violet light behind my eyes.

How long before the imeges start to appear?

And I mean after you close your eyes.

Can anybody answer me?

Originally Posted by A dreamer168

But, I don't see any images.

The closest thing is this violet light behind my eyes.

How long before the imeges start to appear?

And I mean after you close your eyes.

Oh dear!

you will start to see images. i don´t know how long it will take, but the images will appear, for sure!
stay patience - look into the darkness and stay focussed

and yes, you must close your eyes!

I gave this technique a try and it actually worked right the first time I tested it. I followed the exact technique as described by Osho (as linked in the post that started this tread), so this is a somewhat more elaborate form and includes more than only a focus on the 3rd eye chakra (as some here seem to try). Somewhere at the end of my 2nd dream cycle I found myself in a landscape where several UFO's were flying while emanating huge cone-shaped beams of energy. Somehow I realised I was dreaming, but since it has been ages since I had done this (used to do it a lot a few years back, but I want to have more LD's again), I was afraid of losing the dream. I didnt think of doing any techniques like rubbing hands or so either, so shortly after this my whole vision became blank, with in it after a short while a text (I dont remember what it said) in red letters... Then I had a FA in which I was amazed that this technique actually worked.

So actually it did not give me a WILD experience, but a DILD. Still pretty cool since I am looking forward to testing this again and get into more frequent LD's again (im so rusty lol). Anyway I also read the rest of this thread, there was some pretty interesting discussion going on I think. Personally I have a very scientific background (studied astronomy and some more stuff), and I'd like to think of myself as being quite sceptic and not accepting any facts at face value. Still through several years of experience I have come to be pretty much sure there's more to reality than science so far has been able to catalog... but of course that's just my personal subjective experience.

If I have more succes with this method I'll probably report it again here.

Where is the technique by Osho?