Thread: 5000 year old WILD technique. Very easy, and very effective.

Can I practice stimulating my pineal gland anytime during the day? Or just evenings and nights.

i check out the link the OP gave, and I have to same I am utterly confused.. what are we suppose to look at and read?

and yes, does this work?

Originally Posted by spiritofthewolf

i check out the link the OP gave, and I have to same I am utterly confused.. what are we suppose to look at and read?

and yes, does this work?

I second spiritofthewolf with that question?

you mean in the first post?

the first two links are educational

the last link is only confusing because the website format is very weird. from the 112 meditations from shiva, chaybachayba posted the 7th. that entire page is the 7th technique. which relates directly to lucid dreaming.

and the 7th technique is. "With intangible breath in center of forehead, as this reaches heart at the moment of sleep, have direction over dreams and over death itself."

if you click in order you'll get a list of all 112 meditations/techniques

OK, I have a question about meditating on the 3rd Eye.

Should I focus on the center of my forehead directly in between (and slightly up from) my eyebrows ... ?

Or should I focus my attention into the center of my brain that is at eyebrow level, where the pineal gland is?

Originally Posted by Silence Dogood

OK, I have a question about meditating on the 3rd Eye.

Should I focus on the center of my forehead directly in between (and slightly up from) my eyebrows ... ?

Or should I focus my attention into the center of my brain that is at eyebrow level, where the pineal gland is?

For me it's a line extending up my brow from the bridge of my nose, not just a single point. I've found that when I get a really strong vibration going it extends along my eyebrows as well. The important part is not to obsess about making it work. The first time I experienced that vibration it wasn't what I was attempting to achieve, I was just in deep meditation. I didn't clear my mind of thoughts as many say to do, I just let my thoughts flow naturally like a stream but didn't attempt to control or linger on any of them. More than anything else, it just takes practice and awareness of your self.

I bought a singing bowl that emits the tone that is good for the 3rd eye chakra. Will this help me?

Originally Posted by DreamChaser

Mobile phone companies are researching the Pineal gland today. Figures.

I just tried this (never were able to get a lucid dream until now)
I don't like that my brace(scoliosis) starts to hurt like hell when trying Wild, but were able to endure that...
I think I would have gotten one had I not chickened out (vision, consciousness, don't know, but change) .
I got very shaky, a very fast heartbeat and very short breath.
Were scared to die
That normal?
Scary!

Originally Posted by iibdwnm

I just tried this (never were able to get a lucid dream until now)
I don't like that my brace(scoliosis) starts to hurt like hell when trying Wild, but were able to endure that...
I think I would have gotten one had I not chickened out (vision, consciousness, don't know, but change) .
I got very shaky, a very fast heartbeat and very short breath.
Were scared to die
That normal?
Scary!

You weren't going to die. And yes, this is normal.

Someone probably said this already, this sounds like the technique shamans used when contacting spirits.

Hm, just saw that thread. Interesting cos lately that is what i am doing while i am falling asleep and i am getting sharper dreams and i can remember most of my dreams(3-4) per night easily.

But i have one question to Chayba: Lately i have a strange feeling during the day. For example im just sitting somewhere and not really thinking and then i get that buzzing feeling exactly there between the eyes. It feel weird a bit lightheaded like on mild MJ trip but different. Its just that buzz inside which sometimes takes over the top of my head as well.
Do you have such feeling sometimes? And what could it mean. It surely feels nice

Originally Posted by kenietz

Hm, just saw that thread. Interesting cos lately that is what i am doing while i am falling asleep and i am getting sharper dreams and i can remember most of my dreams(3-4) per night easily.

But i have one question to Chayba: Lately i have a strange feeling during the day. For example im just sitting somewhere and not really thinking and then i get that buzzing feeling exactly there between the eyes. It feel weird a bit lightheaded like on mild MJ trip but different. Its just that buzz inside which sometimes takes over the top of my head as well.
Do you have such feeling sometimes? And what could it mean. It surely feels nice

I get mini migraines? Does that count?

@Kenietz: Pretty cool that you feel lightheaded from that buzz, I have the same thing, that feeling you are talking about, I guess it means the third eye is activating, and my guess is that you are feeling electromagnetic radiation. The pineal gland is an electromagnetic sender and receiver, pigeons and cows use it to detect electromagnetic fields, so it is not so far-fetched to consider the possibility, that we are also able to do the same. Try feeling the EM-radiation from a television, or a computer screen to validate this theory yourself.
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@aktw4: Ha, maybe it does, because for me the migraines turn into pleasure when I learned how to use the third eye.

so do you just so this as you are trying to WILD? focus on the 3rd eye? no counting or anything?

Yeah sometimes I do count to keep my focus, but for the rest I just focus on the third eye. Seems easy, but your mind will try anything to divert your attention.

Originally Posted by erible

so do you just so this as you are trying to WILD? focus on the 3rd eye? no counting or anything?

I'd relax by counting down first.

Chayba Chayba, I must say that this is a damn good technique. It is working for me like a charm I have practised it for quite a time now. I have heard of this technique while reading Samuel Sagan's book on Awakening The Third Eye. This is the most effective technique that stimulates the third eye.
This tek also helps me attain OOBEs

Good luck everyone!

Originally Posted by ChaybaChayba

@Kenietz: Pretty cool that you feel lightheaded from that buzz, I have the same thing, that feeling you are talking about, I guess it means the third eye is activating, and my guess is that you are feeling electromagnetic radiation. The pineal gland is an electromagnetic sender and receiver, pigeons and cows use it to detect electromagnetic fields, so it is not so far-fetched to consider the possibility, that we are also able to do the same. Try feeling the EM-radiation from a television, or a computer screen to validate this theory yourself.

@ChaybaChayba:
Thats funny cos for some quite some time i was trying to feel the machines. What i mean is this, i had one really crappy dvd-player which was starting some dvds and some not So i decided that i can influence the machine so it can start the dvd i want as well hahaha I have to say at the time i was inspired by a sci-fi book which i do not remember but there the character was able to communicate to machines directly. So at the beginning of my experiments i felt a bit stupid and actually i felt not much when i was trying to influence the machine. but after some time i had this strange feeling in my head actually about there in between the eyes which was telling me that the machine will start that damn dvd which i want to see. What i was doing was smth similar to the thing which was called 'tuning' in the movie 'dark city'. just get really concentrated on the machine and trying to feel it and try to send my will to it
life is crazy enough ))

btw i will check the link for the electromagnetic theory. thanks
Cheers

Originally Posted by ChaybaChayba

Cows Really Do Have a Magnetic Sixth Sense | Wired Science | Wired.com
Electromagnetic theories of consciousness - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

@ChaybaChayba:
Hey, thanx for the links. I checked the one from Wiki. Great stuff. Now some more to read about.
For some time I have had that feeling that our brains are connected somehow to the whole, i mean the universe whatever it is. And i was wondering how/where the information is stored at all. Further this could explain how we can influence the universe as well through our minds. Anyway have to read to learn more about that theories.

Cheers

The movie DarkCity is one awesome movie. I believe it has a hidden meaning about the reality of lucid dreaming and my experience has confirmed this to be the case too. About tuning, in some martial arts, there is such a thing called energy generation, and it comes down to generating electromagnetic energy in the body by manipulating vortices by using spirally movements. Also reminds me of the guy in the movie DarkCity who seems to do a similar thing with his eyes. In nuclear power plants, electricity is being generated by rotating electromagnetic fields, I think that would be the same principle at work here, the principle of a dynamo.

Nikola Tesla invented a little device, that would tune into the vibrating frequency of any object, say a building, and by making that tiny little device resonate with the building, it could make the entire building collapse. This is because the building vibrates at a certain frequency and by matching this frequency, tuning into it, the device could slowly alter the vibration through the idea that the vibration sways back and forth like a pendulum, so you only need to push a tiny little bit at the right moment to increase the vibration. Just like playing with a swing.

About that electromagnetic theory, it could indeed explain things like a hivemind through the resonance of the fields. Electromangetic fields resonate automatically with eachother, so maybe it is through this resonance that we are all connected. But ok that's all just speculation really. Fun to think about nonetheless

Hi,just wanted to share my last night experience.
I went to bed and made myself comfy. Then i started to concentrate on my pineal gland and to take care of my breathing. I had this nice vibration for a quite a while but i didnt enter into a dream. So i stopped and just started a normal sleep. After 2-3 h i woke up just like that. Then i was having my weird creatures(http://www.dreamviews.com/f19/weird-creatures-99686/) in front of my eyes. I tried communicating to them but no result. Then i closed my eyes and i was still able to see one of them. After that started the funny part. I had that buzz in my head starting from between the eyes and expanded on to the top of my head as well. During that time i was having such colorful visions which were only similar to those induced by shroomies. I also had auditory hallucinations if you wish. I was hearing some strange noises and sometimes words which i dont remember. Anyway that state of mind continued for quite some time and i was feeling happy. I was enjoying the beauty which i was seeing. After i started to dream i suppose cos i remember in the morning i had some dreams. But i dont remember the transition state between my strange state of mind and the dream state.

@ChaybaChayba:
Lately I was trying the technique again but i think im too tired to do whatever. I find it a bit difficult to concentrate only on my pineal. So i tried something else. I concentrate on it but i use my breathing as well. What i mean is this, i start breathing only through my stomach and then i start to send energy from the stomach to my pineal gland. I mean with every exhale i send the power from the source which is under the belly button to the pineal. It sort of creates a channel between the 2 points. And cos is regulated through breathing is pulsing. Using this technique makes it easier for me to concentrate on the pineal and in the same time energize it.

In the light of the above it came to me what could be the connection with taichi. Firstly, just for the record to mention that taichi is major martial art not a relaxing sport for grannies. Secondly, taichi is created in such a way that makes one to feel the energy through the body. According to taichi theory the power center is a point called 'dan tien' located under the navel and a bit inside. From that point one can start the flow and move it around the body. Of course one can feel the power and without taichi. Once one can feel the energy one can use taichi to cultivate it though. Taichi helps one to learn that energy exists and how to move it too. But in my experience i found i can start the energy flow just by thinking about it.
Now then, the connection. If one doesnt know about the existence of the power inside or can not move it one can use taichi to learn both. Then one can do what i tried to do in the first paragraph which in the best case could give a nice LD according to the main idea of this thread.

Cheers

Originally Posted by kenietz

Lately I was trying the technique again but i think im too tired to do whatever. I find it a bit difficult to concentrate only on my pineal. So i tried something else. I concentrate on it but i use my breathing as well. What i mean is this, i start breathing only through my stomach and then i start to send energy from the stomach to my pineal gland. I mean with every exhale i send the power from the source which is under the belly button to the pineal. It sort of creates a channel between the 2 points. And cos is regulated through breathing is pulsing. Using this technique makes it easier for me to concentrate on the pineal and in the same time energize it.

Yesterday afternoon i tried this technique and i got nice effect. I felt like i was breathing and through the space between my eyes. Then i started to feel that space being stimulated and energized and whole body energizing as well. Then there was that feeling which felt a bit like the effect of smoking MJ There was this power collected from the whole body moving directly to my head and my head was feeling strange. The feeling was overwhelming even a bit scary for the body or the ego i dunno. But my mind was not scared so i let it go. Then i was having some visions but didnt enter any dreams. I had to go to taichi so i stopped the experiment.