Thread: Just Wondering

I think I read a book by David Icke where he said something like that

Shapeshifting is not an ability the things these people see posses. It's a property of their own perception. Makes it hard to tell what's what when people report these kinds of things.

All of this has to do with 2012. It is not the end of the world as some people think. It is the end of the age, we are moving towards the age of aquarius. There will be a shift in conscienous where minds will be opened and the human race will begin evolving spiritually and become more like these other races instead of prisoners and slaves on our own home planet. One video I really liked.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b7NINKlAiuE
If you're wondering the signifigance of satanism, look into the illuminati, who are all satanists, but not in the way satanism is depicted by christianity or other religions, they serve the repltiles. I believe this was made by some of the people who made zeitgiest

I also just found out that that's a deleted scene from the frist zeitgiest

Could someone give a very general explanation of what exactly are "reptillians, paliedians and andromedans"? And pleases don't tell me to google it...

It is very hard to give any kind of brief discription on this topic, you'll think I'm messed without the proper amount of info. so I'm sorry to say, you have to some of your own research to have a good understanding. But trust it's crazy and don't just dismiss it as a crack pot theory because one day, after something happens, which will be soon, you'll regret and maybe that guy wasn't just crazy.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b7NINKlAiuE

watch that video for a brief discription of reptillians

So wait. Supposedly the reptillians are from planet Nibiru? Which is in our solar system, yet we have never found this planet? I don't understand.

The reptillians aren't from Niburu, they inhabit alhpa draconis in our universe. Though they may have been there at some point as they are explorers of the universe. As for the second question, I'm not too sure, it has been at some point, I think it drifts through multiple ones getting pulled in by gravity, anyways like I said, you need to do some research, and I suggest you do, because some crazy stuff is going to go down in the next decade or two, everything will change. Look up Billy Meier, and if you haven't of them, The Illuminati. Just goes to show how corrupt our world is.

I think it's all distraction so we won't see how the earth is dying! Hey look up in the sky people, so you don't see the ground beneath your feet is crumbling.. :/

The world is crumbling because of this race. The paliedians want to help us, as do a few others, but they won't because of something to do with ascension and not being able to reach our full potential with help. We need to stop all of the money grubbing because it is destroying planet. People over look things that would help it just so they can make a few extra bucks. I totally agree with you in the way that our main concern should be saving our planet but that cannot be achieved while they are still here and in control.

I have to say I don't really believe it, but when i started to read about it it does kinda make sense.. also what you say about money grubbing you nailed it! i also believe thats what this is all about people dont realize how harmful the attitude of getting rich is.. it's like sending out a signal to eachother saying money is more important than the people around you

Can you link me up with a good ebook or something?

yea, you've done your research Lucidity. If your really interested in this stuff, I suggest Jordan Maxwell and William Bill Cooper( who was unfortunately killed for the purpose of silencing him imo ). But the conclusions are not for the weak-minded.

Here are some of my thoughts on this:

Spoiler for Spoiler:

We won't be getting any kind of disclosure from friendly E.T.'s until after we evolve spiritually that is supposed to take place in 2012....right now we're obviously not mature enough to handle alien visitations.

Jordan Maxwell says the Annunaki or Reptilians ( who supposedly taught the Sumerians ) are "going" to enslave the human race. I don't know if this is before or after the supposed "depopulation of earth"...probably after. I think the Annunaki/Reptilians are supposed to be the "fallen angels" depicted in the Bible. "Nephilims" may have been real, there were some giant skeletons uncovered that were lik 7ft. to 14ft. tall, it was said to be a hoax....but who knows. Jordan Maxwell has a new interview out with Project Camelot.

It may even be that the Anunnaki is the "anti-Christ". It would make sense that the Anunnaki would choose the region of former Mesopotamia (modern Iraq) for their return. The predictions speak of the anti-Christ coming from this region and gaining power in the European Union. It speaks of nations coming against Israel. On a side note, it adds a new light to why the United States and its allies chose to attack Iraq at this time in our history. Are they perhaps preparing for the return of the Anunnaki?

I'm not at all a Bible thumper..but there is something about the Bible that is mysterious...it may have truths in it, but meant to be taken figuratively and not literally.

I'm always open to the possibility of all this being a hoax, but too many pieces are coming together...just look at ancient Egyptian history, and the ancient Mayan civilization and what's just now coming to light. Spirituality is obviously the real deal.

Spoiler for "Another spoiler":

Or this may just be to distract us from what is really going on, shaping our own experience with Law of Attraction....who knows..really..but if your really interested in all this symbolism, occultism, metaphysics, and mythology..and what the symbol on the back of the dollar bill really means, and what truths the Bible may really hold, I'd suggest checking out Jordan Maxwell's videos..he's been researching this for decades. Dr. Rauni-Leena Luukanen-Kilde video was also interesting, she talks about events happening right now.

OR...it may be that the Annunniki are the originial creators and are benevolent, and are coming here to teach us....who knows. IF there really is an "evil" esoteric/metaphysical agenda, it's to take your mind/soul/spiritual freedom/emotions, imho. Transhumanism maybe? I don't know..all we can do is speculate. But succumbing to fear is probably the "worst" thing you can do. Even if the Annunaki really is the anti-christ...there only going to reign for three years.

I feel like I shouldn't even be talking about this, I haven't fully went into and researched all of what Maxwell was saying. And quite frankly, I really am starting to not care, the only important thing I get out of all of this is to just listen to your intuition and make an effort to be nicer to people these coming years. Who knows what's coming, but there is supposed to be a global evolution of consciousness coming in 2012..I try to focus on the good and not the bad. Remember you attract what you focus on.

One thing I AM looking out for though is these RFID chips, aside from the fact that they are implanted under your skin..they generate/manipulate electromagnetic fields.....the pineal gland ( responsible for dreams, OBE's, and NDE's ) are sensitive to electromagnetic fields....low frequency electromagnetic fields suppresses pineal gland activity..

That's why it's so hard for us now to remember dreams and dream lucidly, it's because of all these electronic equipment and high-voltage power-lines...they generate LOW frequency electromagnetic fields keeping us in a state of low vibration and it suppresses melatonin production. Just look at how you feel when you turn off all electrical appliances in your house, or when their is a power outage...you feel a sense of peace and serenity.

Damn I sound like a fucking nut LOL

(slightly off-topic but)

Originally Posted by HaRd_WiReD

One thing I AM looking out for though is these RFID chips, aside from the fact that they are implanted under your skin..they generate/manipulate electromagnetic fields.....the pineal gland ( responsible for dreams, OBE's, and NDE's ) are sensitive to electromagnetic fields....low frequency electromagnetic fields suppresses pineal gland activity..That's why it's so hard for us now to remember dreams and dream lucidly, it's because of all these electronic equipment and high-voltage power-lines...they generate LOW frequency electromagnetic fields keeping us in a state of low vibration and it suppresses melatonin production. Just look at how you feel when you turn off all electrical appliances in your house, or when their is a power outage...you feel a sense of peace and serenity.

Do you have any scientific sources regarding the statement about low frequency electromagnetic fields suppressing pineal gland activity?

I'm very very interested in the pineal gland and have read a lot about it but I've never read anything you suggest here and I'm interested to know where you are getting your information and how accurate it is.

Also, it has to be more than merely suppressing melatonin production, because anyone can take melatonin. In fact, I take it every night. If you said DMT, then I would be more inclined to believe it. But on the whole, from what I understand, scientists do not actually know a whole lot about the pineal gland and a lot of its functions and how it works still remains a mystery. Like the various neurotransmitters present, receptors, their purposes and functions. I'd love to see some conclusive evidence regarding any of it.

Also...I own one of THESE

I'm very amazed in happy this got a response, I posted the same question on astralpulse.com and thought it would get more of a response there but no one even commented! The years ahead of us are going to important ones that will change humanity for the better. I'm just trying to tell people to sort of prepare them in way, but by no means am I trying convert you to a school of thought. These are my beliefs and I am so certain there will be a big change coming that will be to do with this. I'm only a 16 year old kid which is why I think I don't just dismiss this and not believe it right away because I haven't been subjected to as many years of brainwashing and living that way as some others. The world will change but people are going to die first. Prepare for the wrost, plan for the best!

I don't really look back into history and mythology, or none of these conspiracy "theories" anymore, because it's all irrelevant...like someone once said it's good to take a glimpse in the past, but do not stay there for long. Focus on the here and now. In any case, all the answers you need to know are within.

Like I said, the most important thing about all of this is to develop and listen to your intuition. Your intuition can tell you everything you need/want to know. In hard times, your intuition can be your guide, and I'm not talking about a hunch or a guess, I'm talking about your dream guide/spirit guide/higher self will actually communicate with you in waking life through thoughts.

I strongly urge everyone to read these brief two pages.

http://www.robertpeterson.org/chap10.html
http://psipog.net/art-communicating-with-subc.html

Having DIRECT connection with your subconscious in waking life. Imagine not having to study, just scan the pages and when you go to take a test, you ask your subconscious what the answer is because it automatically knows since it picks up every thing, even what you don't catch. Everything.

I KNOW that this is true because some people may experience it very briefly when waking up prematurely..you get those thoughts that aren't yours, your subconscious thoughts.

The stuff about pineal glands hasn't been studied mainstream and put out for the masses, and probably for a good reason. If a soul is proved mainstream, there's going to be chaos and panic. Just like what would happen if E.T.'s were disclosed. You can find the pineal gland referenced in ancient civilizations and even the Vatican. There was a study by a credible Doctor, he has a book called "DMT: The Spirit Molecule"

As for the pineal gland and electromagnetic fields:

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/2096195
http://cat.inist.fr/?aModele=afficheN&cpsidt=13683245

The pineal gland actually generates it's own electromagnetic field around the body...that's why people get certain vibes around each other. I'm really convinced that feelings/emotions are magnetic in nature.



It's simple really..you demonstrate hate, anger, fear, you generate a low vibrational EM-field....you demonstrate happiness, joy, or love you generate a higher vibrational EM-field.

http://www.ortho.lsuhsc.edu/Faculty/...lectricity.pdf

There is a major record-breaking solar flare coming in 2012 that will jump the entire planets EM-field up significantly.

As far as the ANnunki and E,T.'s and the supposed huge conspiracy going on...I wouldn't worry about that, it may not even be true. These guys could just be trying to make money or whatever, I don't know. Don't focus on bad things because they will literally manifest. I've had thoughts that every human mind has it's own universe. LIke your the God of your own universe.

But as far as 2012, it's simply the year in which we become gods; when consciousness sends out it's last intention of creation (it's actually in October of 2011 but there will be a different reality by 2012). It's the year when we become complete conscious co-creators of our very realities and experiences.

It's important to know that The Mayan Calendar was never keeping track of time as we know it; it was a meter for the evolution of consciousness across the span of this galaxy, and an instrument to help entrain into intuition and move out of the mind/ego.

To anyone reading this, the only thing you have to know is: what you put the focus of your attention on, you become conscious of; and what you become conscious of, you will manifest on a very literal scale. Kind of like a constant dream state that you're completely conscious of and have full control over.

Be in ethics -- compassionate, forthright, caring, loving, honest -- and an ethical reality will manifest. Be in fear, anger, propitiation, worry, dishonesty, prejudice, and your manifested reality is going to be a direct reflection of these emotions (and there will also be a big chance that you parrish/die).

There's absolutely nothing to worry about or do. Quite the contrary, we're headed towards an ethical utopia, where the limitations of the mind disappear, and time & space dissolve, leaving us with great freedom to do anything we want.

The world won't end in 2012..unless you want it to. YOU create what you want to experience, THAT is your full potential.

I believe "myths" are true, we just have to understand them.

Hard Wired...thanks for the links. Maybe I understood it wrong, but those studies you linked to seem to be saying the opposite of your statement "low frequency electromagnetic fields suppresses pineal gland activity.."

In the mouse study, there was an increase in pineal gland activity in the mice who had been exposed to the low frequency vibrations for 21 days.

In the human study, it says..."7 of 28 volunteers using the CPW blankets showed statistically significant changes in their mean nighttime 6-OHMS excretion". That doesn't say much. So there was a significant change in their pineal gland activity? Was it more active or less? The study never says...unless I missed something.

Yes myths are "somewhat" true..but they've just been overexaggerated and embellished quite a bit. All myths stem from some kind of truth.

For example in the Bible, a lot of the words are Hebrew which totally means something else. For instances, Coming on clouds, in Hebrew it means coming as a person.

Another example is the Beast, Idealists identify the Beast not as a specific entity but as a symbolic representation of all sociopolitical systems that have oppressed the church throughout history. Jehovah’s Witnesses believe that the 10-horned, seven-headed wild beast symbolizes a world power.

I think the Bible can be better understood with a symbolical approach. Some things in it aren't even meant to be taken literal, IMHO. The "fallen angels" also might have been E.T.'s. "Cast down from heaven" could just mean coming from outer space in ships.


I don't know, I'm not a Bible thumper and I don't try to interpret or "decode" the Bible..it was written by man thousands of years ago...man is fallible


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Also, The Egyptian God's like Ra and Thoth..these God's were depicted with animal heads. They could have been spiritually enlightened E.T.'s. with Kundalini fully awakened.....hence the snakes coming out of the Pharaohs head.

Jordan Maxwell is definitely the man to check out for mythology.

Aquanina:

I read an article on the net that said Electromagnetic fields (EMF) suppress the activity of the pineal gland and reduce melatonin production. It also said that EMF activity disrupts the bodies circadian rhythms.

I also read something else that said whenever a person is exposed to an EMF (electro-magnetic field) such as that of the earth the gland vibrates, sending out EM signals to the rest of the body( the tingling down the spine). When the pineal gland is stimulated geomagnetically it produces alkaloids similar to plant psychedelics.

I didn't actually look for scientific evidence of this though. I'm thinking maybe their talking about the Schumann Resonance?

This is what IS factual about the pineal gland though:

http://www.antidepressantsfacts.com/pinealstory.htm

That above link supports my claims...it also even say's that the pineal gland is sensitive to fluoride.

The Pineal Gland is a magneto sensitive organ, what means that it is sensitive to electromagnetic fields (EMF). It is sensitive to electromagnetic waves from computer monitors, cellular phones, microwave ovens, high voltage lines, etc.. Electromagnetic fields suppress the activity of the Pineal Gland and reduce melatonin production. EMF also affect serotonin.

Although I did say that low electromagnetic fields suppress pineal activity, whether or not a certain frequency effects it is debatable.

We will always be surrounded by electromagnetic fields though, the earth has it's own electromagnetic field. That's why assumed that low EM waves suppress it, what about extremely high EM-waves? Show me a scientific study using high EM-waves and I'll stfu lol

If your interested Aqua, there is a small simple experiment you can do that will prove to you feelings and conscious attention are magnetic

Hard Wired thanks. I knew some of that...which is why I wear my Q-Link everyday and use fluoride free toothpaste and only drink real spring water.

I absolutely believe 100% that the body has its own vibrational frequency, as I've experimented with my own on various occasions, I could even link you to a thread on here about it: http://www.dreamviews.com/community/...ad.php?t=46091 but I'd never heard that it was the pineal gland which caused these vibrations or allowed the fluctuations to occur. I'd love to find more evidence regarding that, as it is truly fascinating to me and I would love to understand it further.

Interesting, BBC shows that electromagnetic radiation from computers, cell-phones, etc. are the invisible cause of stress and fatigue, who would have thought it.

I'm reading up on Q-link now and it seems interesting..but 100bucks , if i could afford it now I would definitely get it.

ohh, yea you are the one that made that thread about pink fluffy bunnies..I know what that is too Did you check out my last post on the last page of that thread?

You won't find any scientific evidence on pineal gland vibrations or body vibrations, because it's a new study. There's a metaphysical explanation, but there is no scientific explanation for the "chill down the spine", actually there is but all it says is that it comes from the emotional part of the brain. That tingling down your spine is just an emotional reaction to something imo.

I'm convinced that melatonin is the cause of sleep paralysis ( I don't know if this is scientifically proven or not ), and OBE vibrations. To me there the same thing.

which is why I wear my Q-Link everyday and use fluoride free toothpaste and only drink real spring water.

Oh, good, your right on it Did you notice in any changes since before you started doing that? Like change in awareness, mood, and dream recall/lucidity