Bizzare childhood sensation, warning: long

[Will]

I need to know if this has happened to anyone else out there. I was reminded of this when I read Burns' fascinating thread about "Platonic shapes": http://www.dreamviews.com/forum/inde...howtopic=40078 My experience was a little different than those described in the thread above, but equally strange. Basically, there's no "me" in the dream, and no point of reference at all which might tell me the size and scale of anything. It seems to take place in complete darkness--it could be the vast darkness of space or the microscopic darkness of subatomic matter. I get the feeling that it's very small scale, like cells, germs, DNA, etc. It makes me feel very tiny, and everything is so soft and quiet. It definitely involves that sense of extremely slow, sedated motion that so many of you have described about your "fever dreams". It all centers around an "object" that I came to think of in childhood as a "furry bone." I think "fuzzy bone" would describe it better. As I mentioned, there's really no "me" in the dream. My consciousness is focused on "feeling" this object. In fact, maybe I AM the object. It's hard to tell. It's all about how I experience the TEXTURE of this object. The best way I can describe it is to compare it to a number of different things in order to give you an overall idea of what it's about. Imagine a white rod-shaped object, like a bone. Now imagine that this thing is magnetic and imagine a million tiny metal shavings around the outside of this rod. Now imagine these metal shavings as being so tiny, soft and white that they feel like a fine fur or fuzz around the rod--as fine as chalk dust. I compare the rod to a magnet because these fine particles do not seem to be connected to the rod, they can gravitate to it or away from it, but about 99 percent of them are on it. Whenever on of these particles separates from the rod or attracts to it I can "feel" it happen, like the most faintly detectable noise. But there's really no noise, It's more like I feel the gravity or pull of it. They don't even need to be moving for me to feel this--I feel the ones that are attached in the same way. In fact, I feel all of them simultaneously, hence the "fuzziness." And above all, the whole thing seems to constitute some slow, steady and ongoing motion like the trickling of water. Again this is not any kind of fuzziness you could feel with your fingertip, you are disembodied and simply immersed in it. You experience the fuzziness, you ARE the fuzziness. Anyway, that's my best attempt at describing it. This happened so often to me as a child, usually at the beginning or end of my sleep. That fact would lead me to believe that it was hypnogogic, but, like the Platonic shape experiences, it was so much more than that. It did not happen during fevers and it was not that scary; just extremely bizzare and overpowering. I have never had this recur in my adult life. Salvia took me to a similar place but definitely not the same thing. By the way, for you salvia users out there, I've never had a "breakthrough" but I have gotten stuck underneath that giant ferris wheel as it turns round and round and stretches you out like rubber. If anyone out there does Yoga, I can just say that the closest I've ever come to this sensation is during padmasana, when I inhale with all of my bandha's tightened up. So please let me know if any of you have experienced the chalky white rod with the tiny particles, or anything similar.

[Vortex]

Will, The first part sounds very similar to 'The Void' or '3D Blackness', I did some research on that a while back. Here's some of the links I saved: http://www.dreamviews.com/community/...47&postcount=1 http://www.dreamviews.com/community/...earchid=433942 http://www.dreamviews.com/community/...27&postcount=1 http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/we...0488#msg150488 (it's long, search for 'void') http://community.livejournal.com/nightterrors Not sure about the furry bone bit though...

[The Cusp]

Your link above isn't working, but I assume you meant this thread. http://www.dreamviews.com/community/...ad.php?t=29794 Was it scary? Those platonic solids ones give me goosebumps to this day to think about. Even if they aren't exactly the same, it's still dreaming about concepts that should be beyond the comprehension of a young child. You have to wonder where this stuff comes from. Of course the type of imagery you described and the ones in that thread are common with hallucinogenic drug users. Whatever that means.

[Will]

Thanks for the input. This experience was never scary. There was really no room for fear--that would be a subjective response, and there was no sense of self in these episodes. I've spent a lot of time in the hypnogogic state, SP, and going into WILDs, and these all involve constantly-changing, unstable scenery. By contrast, I could always count on the fuzzy bone experience to be exactly the same every time and stay in that state for a long time like there was some objective reality to it, not merely a creation of my imagination. It was like this was some real "place" somewhere. Who knows. Maybe I was observing a cell or molecule up close.