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      kvxdelta's Workbook

      Ohhaider, I'm kvxdelta and I'm pretty new to lucid dreaming. For the last few days I've been trying. Mostly with MILD or WILD and I recently have noticed my mistake in attempting to use both. I keep a dream journal (currently 6 entries, my one on DV only has 1 because the others were just simply a bit personal) and just yesterday I started doing regular reality checks. I've found 4 things that are recurring in my dreams. Stores, things with the intent of killing, Modern French style cities and the houses I live in during my waking life. Alot of my dreams also have my friends from waking life appearing (e.g. I had a dream where there was a war battle against an entire army in a mall and me and my friend were fighting together, no other soldiers on our side) in them. That's pretty much all I really find relevant that I know...

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      Welcome to Dreamviews and DILD class! Nice to have you here.

      OK, here we go:

      1. Keep up with your dream journal.

      2. Add some daytime awereness training and mantras to your RCs. Here is a tutorial for all you need for MILD/DILD.

      3. You can use recurring things as your dream signs and RC in waking life when you see them.

      4. I would recommend you pick one technique, either DILD/MILD or WILD, and stick to it for about a month, before switching to another one. There is a great WILD class happening also here in DV Academy and you are more than welcome to try as many classes as you wish.

      Please post your progress and questions. Happy dreams

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      Sorry for not reporting recently but the dream journal had drastically increased my dream recall while I was using it and I sort of lost interest in LD's and didn't have the time once my school year started. However, I'm back in the game as you can see and I plan to continue my DJ now. I have been trying to do reality checks recently too, they're just not as frequent. When I was performing them, they had a very positive affect on my abilities. As of now, I'm trying to get my head back in that mindset and make my LD'ing schedule regular again. As for using recurring things as my dream sings and RC'ing in waking life when I see them, I don't often get the chance to do that. The friends that commonly appear live an entire other state away. Stores also appear alot or used to as far as I know, but I don't go there too often and frequently forget to LD with the excitement of begging my parents to buy me some skittles or something. The other recurring sign (This is very recurring, and has happened all my life.) is where in the dream, something either miraculous and totally awesome happens, or something dreadful, terrifying, nightmarish, and even sometimes satanic happens. For example, one time I had a dream where I woke up and found that I had gotten an entirely new game console and like 30 games for it.
      It's also fairly challenging to pick one technique, so I was wondering if I could try combining techniques a bit? For example, maybe you could combine VILD, MILD, and DILD. As in, visualizing throughout the day and when you go to sleep at various times. Performing reality and awareness checks throughout the day at various times. And of course reciting mantras throughout the day and before you go to sleep at various times. It appears WBTB works with EVERYTHING pretty much and I've used it (It's AMAZING and works almost every time but the sucky thing is that I can't really do it on school nights, especially since I usually don't get enough sleep anyways.
      V: Who? Who is but the form following the function of what, and what I am is a man in a mask.
      Evey: Well I can see that...
      V: Of course you can. I'm not questioning your powers of observation. I'm simply remarking upon the paradox of asking a masked man who he is.

      - V for Vendetta

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      Yup, MILD and DILD are frequently combined and I do recommend using them together. And visualization can only help - it kinda activates same part of your brain that's active when you are dreaming.

      When I go to sleep, either for WILD or just to sleep, I visualize one of my previous dreams, or just go through a few of them to see, which one catches on. It get's me to dreaming state faster - not to REM, just get's my mind in the mood.

      WBTB is great, sometimes it's enough to just put the lights on on your way to the restroom, take your time, and go back to sleep. Do a few math problems in your head while you at it, simple like 2+2 is enough. It activates your logic center. You want that one to be awake in order to help you notice strange things in your dream.

      And RCs - it's fine to RC on your dream signs. But I always recommend RC at totally random times. This way you won't miss out on a chance to have a LD if your dream sign doesn't show up in a dream. This way you just at random time in a dream ask yourself "woah, is this a dream?" and bingo.

      But you can add RC to your dream signs, or also at times when you do something often in WL. Like walking through your doorway. And don't forget to RC each time you get up from your bed. Lots of LDs start with you getting out of bed - if you don't realize it, it continues as false awakening. If you realize it, it's a lucid, baby!

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      Decided on DILD for sure. It always seems to just... work for me. I can never go into SP unless I sit there COMPLETELY focused on not focusing on anything for 30 minutes to a couple of hours. I like doing visualizations and I'm getting pretty good at doing them, imo. So I'm definitely incorporating that into my battle plan. I also like to do just a wee bit of MILD so that I can remember my dream tasks. (Repeating the night's goals and other miscellaneous parts of my visualization plan (see my DJ and you'll see what I mean)) Still, DILD works for me almost involuntarily! Anyways, I've been doing reality checks regularly again and I'm kind of doing awareness checks. I just have a few questions. When doing awareness checks, how exactly do you do them? I usually paint a completely empty canvas in my mind with each detail as I go along. For example, I say that there were many small rocks in the yard of the house to my left. A bunch of small black and white rocks would appear in that general location. I force myself to say every single last detail (color, location, anything prerequisite, etc...). I'd like to know if I'm doing it right. :p Also, is doing reality checks every few seconds/minutes a bad thing? Sometimes, I just feel the urge to but don't give in because as long as I do them regularly, I don't believe that it would be necessary to do them that frequently. As for my dream recall, it's getting better and I'm already back on top of my DJ. I started an awareness journal from an idea I had which contains a daily awareness check typed down. I'm not very much on that one at all because it's simply boring to write into. lol... I'm at about a dream every night or every other night and sometimes 2 or 3 dreams. When I last left off it was just about a dream every night with 2 dreams a night or every other night being common, and 3 dreams being every now and then. I felt like I made a lot of progress last time. Probably because before that, 2 dreams was rare and 1 dream was an occasional thing to the point of where having a dream was basically a VERY pleasant surprise.
      V: Who? Who is but the form following the function of what, and what I am is a man in a mask.
      Evey: Well I can see that...
      V: Of course you can. I'm not questioning your powers of observation. I'm simply remarking upon the paradox of asking a masked man who he is.

      - V for Vendetta

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      Quote Originally Posted by kvxdelta View Post
      I can never go into SP...
      Good news! You don't need SP to lucid dream. I never get into SP while WILDing. But people usually mislabel SP as vibrations and other sensations. Those are just signs of normall falling asleep process and you getting closer to a LD.

      You can experience them, when you let your body fall asleep while you keep your mind awake with mantras. The sensations you might feel and HH you might see/hear is your body shutting down.

      Quote Originally Posted by kvxdelta View Post
      When doing awareness checks, how exactly do you do them? I usually paint a completely empty canvas in my mind with each detail as I go along. For example, I say that there were many small rocks in the yard of the house to my left. A bunch of small black and white rocks would appear in that general location. I force myself to say every single last detail (color, location, anything prerequisite, etc...). I'd like to know if I'm doing it right.
      I think that awareness checks should be scrutinizing your real surroundings, rather than imagining it in your head. I do my awareness check+mantras like this - Collection of techniques for DILD.

      Quote Originally Posted by kvxdelta View Post
      Also, is doing reality checks every few seconds/minutes a bad thing? Sometimes, I just feel the urge to but don't give in because as long as I do them regularly, I don't believe that it would be necessary to do them that frequently.
      I think you should do RC everytime you get an urge. They don't need to be frequent, but also they should not be regular. They should be spontaneous. And really put some emotions into them. If you feel like you do them too frequently, I'm sure it will change soon and you will get an urge less often.

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      As for my dream recall, it's getting better and I'm already back on top of my DJ.
      Good job. Keep it up. Many people don't realize how important DJ is. Happy dreams

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      I recently had another drop out due to sheer laziness and haven't done my dream journal since about a month ago I believe (according to the dates in my DJ.) I keep getting excited during breaks and having plenty of LD's and remembering plenty of dreams merely for the break and then getting lazy because of other responsibilities during school. It's weird too because the sheer feeling of a dream is so enticing to me, you would think that I'd practically be devoting myself to dreaming throughout most of my time. This pretty much explains my spurts of inactivity here on the forums. However, I've been keeping up with reality checks, and still haven't messed with awareness checks too much. Furthermore, I read a thread by Mancon about common mistakes people make with LD'ing and realized that I really should work on my dream recall for now. It has sunk back down due to my inactivity again like it did last time, so I'm gonna go high-time trying to get it back up again, and in-fact increase it compared to its previous condition. I'm working on getting back on my DJ and now have attained a third copy of it. I have three, one is a .txt notepad file on my computer that I record my dream goals, dream cues, and dream logs in. Then there's my DJ on here. And just today, I wrote down a dream in a real copy. I'd also like to start meditating on dream recall. Basically, I'm making dream recall priority right now. That way not only will I remember plenty of dreams as of now, but also so that it'll be harder to fall back too far again later on. Also, slightly off topic but I thought I might as well mention it. I was reading some article about games and lucid dreaming, and they came up with a method called a GILD (Game Induced Lucid Dream) that involved playing First Person games. (not specifically shooters) The author of the article mentioned Wolfenstein 3D to be more specific but said, generally, that it applies to any first person game. I'm pretty sure it works considering ever since my boost in Minecraft playtime, I've had at least 2-3 Minecraft dreams, one involving bees, which was fairly weird. Unfortunately, those were the dreams caught in my web of inactivity and therefore, I've forgotten too much detail for them to be worthy of even my private DJ's. Even the feelings I got from them are now faint and weak. Anyways, wish me luck!
      V: Who? Who is but the form following the function of what, and what I am is a man in a mask.
      Evey: Well I can see that...
      V: Of course you can. I'm not questioning your powers of observation. I'm simply remarking upon the paradox of asking a masked man who he is.

      - V for Vendetta

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      Hey, I'm back from the dead and hopefully will be here to stay for a bit. I unfortunately have not been keeping up with my dream journal since my last few visits to DV, nor have I been performing reality checks. Hopefully, I can try and stick with it this time. Hyu seems to be a little more active with his DJ'ing lately so I should have some inspiration for a while. Now, I've got a few questions and I'm hoping you can answer them.

      How can I modify the techniques I find on this site (or elsewhere, for that matter) to better fit myself?

      Is WBTB really worth using for the DILD/MILD method I plan to use? (so far, pretty much just the one you suggested to me) Especially taking into consideration that there's likely going to be a lot of times that it just won't be practical to use WBTB. (school nights, in particular)

      About the mantras, would it be a good idea to repeat them each time I perform a reality check and if so, what types of things should I say, and for how long?

      Should I focus on dream recall right now, or start practicing the actual induction of lucid dreaming again. Ever since I began this last bout of inactivity, I've been naturally having a lucid here or there, or simply gotten very close to one. However, my dream recall has dropped significantly and is currently not very consistent. Most nights I remember 0-2 dreams, most of which have been... "interesting" to say the least and usually quite memorable as well.

      How can changes in sleep schedule affect my ability to lucid dream/and or recall lucid dreams? How drastic of a change would it take to have a noticeable effect on either?
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      V: Who? Who is but the form following the function of what, and what I am is a man in a mask.
      Evey: Well I can see that...
      V: Of course you can. I'm not questioning your powers of observation. I'm simply remarking upon the paradox of asking a masked man who he is.

      - V for Vendetta

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      kvxdelta is baaaaack! : D

      Welcome back!

      Yes, Hyu seems to be bit more active, has some new DJ posts. I would also recommed other DJs, like OpheliaBlue's, Sensei...

      To modify a technique I would recomment to start by doing it exactly as it's described. Then you will find out what works and what doesn't and you can try and tweak it. Again, by trial and error you will find out what is working for you best. But please keep in mind, that no 2 attempt are the same. You can wake up, go to sleep, do everything the same as last time when you had great success, and this time you will have less success. There are so many variables, that makes testing like that not easy. But that's how we all do it. As long as you know that and don't get frustrated. I take every attempt as a learning opportunity, that gets me one step closer.

      And no, WBTB is not crucial for a DILD/MILD. You can use an improptu WBTB every time you use the restroom at night, if you wish. But WBTB is designed for a WILD.

      Mantras: yes to repeating when RCing

      My favorite and most powerful one is: Next time I'm dreaming, (I look at my hands) and realize I'm dreaming.

      Please keep in mind, that your state of mind and you knowing that this will work is more important than the words you choose.

      So, I look up almost startled, realizing, that i could be in a dream at that moment. I get this exciting feeling in my stomach. I look around and tell myself "I'm dreaming". Then I count my fingers and examine my hands. I try to make some fingers longer, or push tumb through palm, or pinch my nose, or change something, like color of the wall, or I try to levitate.

      Then, without saying or thinking that it didn't work (you don't want to think that it didn't work, because then in your dream you will think the same and not get lucid), I just say my mantra.

      From my experience, I wake up after every lucid. Since they are different than regular non-lucids, I think it's safe to start trying to have a DILD, before getting your recall up. Your recall will be up in no time, as soon as you start your DJing again.

      So welcome back, and please ask anything.

      Me, or fogelbise, who practically took over the DILD class will be here to help and guide you. Happy dreams and lucids : D

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      Quote Originally Posted by gab View Post

      Then, without saying or thinking that it didn't work (you don't want to think that it didn't work
      Hmm... Could you elaborate a little further on this? I usually just kind of take the result I get from my RC, see it as either negative (I'm awake) or positive (dreaming) and then go about things as I would in each scenario. Am I going about things properly? I'm not sure that I actively think, "Aww, it didn't work." It's usually just more of a quick, "Alright, I'm awake then."
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      V: Who? Who is but the form following the function of what, and what I am is a man in a mask.
      Evey: Well I can see that...
      V: Of course you can. I'm not questioning your powers of observation. I'm simply remarking upon the paradox of asking a masked man who he is.

      - V for Vendetta

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      By repeating RCs, we are trying to have same actions/feelings to happen in our dreams.

      So if you think "I'm awake" when you RC, you will think same when in you dream, and not get lucid.

      If you think "I always have 10 fingers", then you gonna have 10 in your dream, and again, not get lucid.

      When I count my fingers, I never know how many I will have. I anticipate a different number or how they look.

      Subconsiously, I always think/hope that I could be dreaming at any moment.

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