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Had a few nights trying MILD and SSILD but not much results. One beginning of a WILD which was nice and a v short DILD last night, which was nice to have something after a few days of no carryover. A couple of nights ago woke at 5, hard to wake, wrote dream and went to bathroom and light stretch, then no sleep for next hour until I got up |
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" The bad news is your falling through the air, nothing to hang on to, no parachute. The good news is that theres no ground" - Chogyam Trungpa Rinpoche
It's good that you found the positive side |
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V cool with the tag's. Do you have the tags figured out b4 or just a letter for main events or people etc as it happens and hope that it's enough to associate to in the morning? I often wake regularly during the night and at times aft ach sleep cycle. I find it great hen I make some notes at these, but a bit exhausting if I spend 20 mins or so writing and then some time to go back asleep. It's also disruptive to a good night sleep to be so regularly v awake that you don't go to deep sleep. My ideal is to make v brief notes, even just a few letters like I think you do.it still takes a few mins to recall dreams at times but if cud make v quick notes and not get perfectionist/habitual with detail, it would be useful. The last few days I've only been writing at my final wake up, which feels a bit shoddy... |
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" The bad news is your falling through the air, nothing to hang on to, no parachute. The good news is that theres no ground" - Chogyam Trungpa Rinpoche
I make the tags up on the fly. So in the above example I was thinking during a breather (might have been during an FA) something like "Okay I was at a House a few different times, and the beautiful Stars, after the Mall…(what is good to remember that? Rearrange the letters to form HMS.)" But it could have also been SMH which is often used in text messaging to say "Shaking my Head" or keeping in the same order HSM "He sees me", or similar. Yes, I hope it is enough to associate in the morning since my priority is on lucidity over recall. I mostly use letter tags as I am waking up by staying still and making up new tags in my head before moving and getting up to write, and sometimes going over tags already memorized earlier in the night. Tags created during dreams are mostly kept to just FA's (typically before realizing it is an FA) or during quiet time in the void, for me at least. |
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Great thanks. Def going to try brief tagging and see how it works. Been an intention since chatting with sensei ages ago. He makes v brief tags on multiple brief wakings. I'm on WBTB at mo. Nice level of recall so far which is good start. Have taped a red light torch to pen so making notes in night easier. All good. Goina do bit of meditation then back to sleep. Time can fly on WBTB. Tnks for your ongoing support. So valuable |
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" The bad news is your falling through the air, nothing to hang on to, no parachute. The good news is that theres no ground" - Chogyam Trungpa Rinpoche
no lucidity last night. surprising as conditions were v good. I'd been reading lucid stuff during day, setting intention and rc's, excited to be going to bed, then good amount of sleep, good recall, 1 hr wbtb. woke after 1 1/2 hour, like from long deep sleep. recalled dream, glad that I had another 1 1/2 hrs left. again did Mild visualisation and stating intent, then found it was time to get up...recalled dream. 1/2 surprised and 1/2 amused no lucidity... |
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" The bad news is your falling through the air, nothing to hang on to, no parachute. The good news is that theres no ground" - Chogyam Trungpa Rinpoche
Great, I am confident this will lead you to that goal. |
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no lucidity last night. v good routine, which is a success in terms of building good efforts and habits. after 3 hours I woke after each sleep cycle, making notes after most wakes. switched room after 4 ½ hrs. played with SSild Mild and my old favorite 61 point technique (but needed more wakefulness to get this to work). in morning, when checking clock to see what time and if any more time/windows to attempt lucidity, I felt like I had knocked on the door often enough and time to stop. bit disappointing as was kinda building the sense of having good access when I put the right efforts in. its still more nebulous than that though. still inspired by your rate of increase in LD's and expecting to achieve better levels of ease with these practices but weathered enough to take it lightly. also it may all contribute and result in lucidity another time where less effort is put in. prob wknd when get to put decent efforts in nighttime. will still lightly expect more spontaneous lucidity in meanwhile |
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" The bad news is your falling through the air, nothing to hang on to, no parachute. The good news is that theres no ground" - Chogyam Trungpa Rinpoche
I was in the same boat with you last night...felt good about my efforts but woke up not remembering any lucidity. I had a very interesting dream about a flood and perhaps that flood washed away my lucidity, haha! Here's to us all getting lucid at next sleep! |
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Lucid on Sat. |
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" The bad news is your falling through the air, nothing to hang on to, no parachute. The good news is that theres no ground" - Chogyam Trungpa Rinpoche
Congratulations on the lucid, getting the DEILD also, and remembering goals! |
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that sounds a good idea with the Jedi trick. a way of working in dream that id like to play with. putting out the expectation, similarish to how you suggest while waiting for an image to form, to speak what you want to see manifest...ahh I feel the branches of the trees on Pandora and can see the leaves forming. seems like a deliberate way to work with projection and expectation...projection seems to be such a factor in the dream world (waking world to, just less immediately visible). I remember in a LD b4 talking to a DC and having the thought that I don't trust him, his eyes then turned paperlike and he became wooden. in a different dream (wasn't sure if was lucid) there was a dangerous/threatening DC. after initial fear I started saying phrases of loving kindness, my you be well and may you be at peace, may we both be well and at peace. i feel the dc transformed into to peaceful loving presence. the power of projection is so visable and immediate. I hope to add the deliberate projection that you suggest, to my LD play in the dream world. |
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Tnks. Need to be a bit more committed with wbtb. Did 20 min last night, woke every 30-45 mins with no sense of dreams oddly. Plan to do proper 1 hr wbtb tonight and/or tmrow |
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" The bad news is your falling through the air, nothing to hang on to, no parachute. The good news is that theres no ground" - Chogyam Trungpa Rinpoche
Had a couple few nights now of 30-40min wbtb. Last night got to bed early and good conditions but no lucidity. Making good consistent efforts but a bit of a dry spell these last 2 weeks. Think only 1 v brief lucid... I started looking back through journal as I'm coming to the end of this journal. At the weekend I hope to mark and maybe write up some of the interesting dreams and lucids during this last journal. Short term memory can be so short and in a dry spell can forget how rich dream life has been over a wider timeframe...Goina keep consistent anyway, might vary dream goal or even try a different induction. Go back to WILD attempts some nights perhaps. Funny (again the short term memory) how confident I felt with MILD and SSILD only a couple of weeks ago. As they added more ease to my induction method, still goina keep em as my (mostly) nightly induction method |
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" The bad news is your falling through the air, nothing to hang on to, no parachute. The good news is that theres no ground" - Chogyam Trungpa Rinpoche
-So true! That is something I do as well during a dry spell - going back over recent interesting dreams and any past favorite dreams, lucid or not. |
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Still on a dry spell. Eager to get back into lucid action. Been making fairly good efforts, daytime intentions, some WBTBs. Did 1 hr last night, followed by SSILD, woke, mild, woke tryed wild but didn't get far. No lucidity, Gota stay fairly relentlessly optimistic with such an inconsistent resulting practice...can be interesting sometimes how initial morning disappointment shifts and so perception and life are seen as dreamlike and illusionary. Intentions shift from recognising the night time dream state towards being awake to the daytime dream state... |
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" The bad news is your falling through the air, nothing to hang on to, no parachute. The good news is that theres no ground" - Chogyam Trungpa Rinpoche
I am rooting for you Patjunfa! |
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Tnks Fogelbise, your support is great. |
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" The bad news is your falling through the air, nothing to hang on to, no parachute. The good news is that theres no ground" - Chogyam Trungpa Rinpoche
Perhaps inspiring each other along the lines of "check that out - that's weird/dreamy/beautiful…if I were dreaming right now, I would..!..let's do an RC or two or three." I think it can also be productive to discuss recent dreams, things that you are trying, practices you found insightful and/or fun. |
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Had a short WILd after last WBTB. Nice slow journey into sleep, v settled body, mind slowing, turning towards hypnogogia, drifting, timeless...short wild, strong energy pulsing. Pulled th curtains open but there were a fe layers of curtains so gave up, found myself floating down through the floor and downward without intent which was bit scary, became a FA after not long...in remaining sleep, had loads of wakes and loads of dreams, which gave the fun impression of a long long sleep. No sense of being able to carry lucid intent though... |
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" The bad news is your falling through the air, nothing to hang on to, no parachute. The good news is that theres no ground" - Chogyam Trungpa Rinpoche
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I just have to comment that in the last couple of weeks I too had a dream with multiple layers of curtains and a LD where I sunk down through the bed and was then just there noticing the dust. |
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Interesting Azaleaj, what did you make of it? |
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" The bad news is your falling through the air, nothing to hang on to, no parachute. The good news is that theres no ground" - Chogyam Trungpa Rinpoche
Congratulations on becoming lucid! |
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