Thread: Summoning people

Okay, how about you telling us one of your dream experiences then? IMO everyone is different and one thing can work better than another. Yes i do try to walk around and find someone in my thoughts at the time, but i take breaks and stop and in between listen to what my dream or surroundings is telling me, i don't go around as if i am hunting something, i actually control how i go around my dreams, so i won't look like a psycho and people get scared. All i know is that being in dreams, i treat it as if it is real life. That's the most best advice anyone can give for LDs.

Originally Posted by gander

summoning people isn't easy, as our demands are difficult to fulfill even through reality. summon a weapon and you will be content with two fingers killing off dream-characters, but summon your friend and you will complain about the golden glitter on that person's cheeks. no matter if you use the friend's name or if you visualize the exact face, it all falls into the cathegory of reality-check: someone once tatooed letters onto the real hands, and in the dreams he looked at them to check if it's a dream. if the word those letters did compose wasn't right, it was a dream. so if even the inability to see our own limbs serve as confirmation that it's a dream, how can one ever expect to see some particular person in any realistic way? it doesn't matter if that other person actually is the real one within a shared dream or just a figment of imagination, such complex visuals our mind isn't capable of creating. if we had a shared dream of the other person, that person's body would still be in bed at the time of our dream, so it definitely isn't that real body we would see in the shared dream...

I am content when the dream-character has the personality I desire, I don't care how dream-characters look like. opening doors or walking around or wispering names is somewhat ill-directed effort in my opinion, I'd rather try to provoke a revealing reaction from dream-characters. you know, seeking a prudent person one would better get naked and watch who is exhibiting the strongest reaction -- not that I ever did do that. walking around is a good idea, although time-consuming. but even better is to obtain the full attitude of a hunter sneaking around to get some prey. an interesting dream-experiment is to do that with the goal of learning the phone-number or address of the "victims". maybe you'll meet real people this way?

hypnagogic and such is all nice and maybe really more useful for fortune-telling than the actual dreams, but I think one is better off putting them into the same pot as OBE and sleep-paralysis-dreams. at least in my experience there exists a strong correlation between what I feel in SP and what I feel upon waking up or falling asleep. it's as if the "me" in SP is a different "person" than the "me" who is awake and thereby continues to perceive normally in parallel to my waken perception. on the other hand one should be careful with attributing too much importance into those visions, the world simply is too damn-huge to draw ever little image one sees into a context that's focused on oneself. how do you know you see your own fortune and not someone elses? is there some higher entity who doesn't have anything else to do all day long than to distribute visions in accordance with the people's usual self-centered interpretation-habits? is there anyone who guarrantees that our interpretation of our precognitive visions is the only true and most useful one?

I have learned another method for summoning people: say "locata" then the first name and the last name, all that as if it were a meaningless spell. it wont summon the actual person, not even any sentient being at all, but it will create a cloud of "dream-matter" that takes the shape and behaviour of the desired person. it will give one the feeling as if the actual person were there, although invisible. I never managed to use that as a starting point for further efforts to summon the actual person. but it's a neat trick to get what one wants.

Originally Posted by sivason

It is not always true that believing you can do something will make it work. Dream powers are like real life skills, they need to be trained and focused. If anyone out there instantly had great dream control, I am suprised. You should approach a new dream power like a normal skill. You do not decide to be a high diver and move straight into backflips off the highest board.
For summoning DC skill I would try something like this. Have your first goal just to see a general type of person in an area that already has DCs. If all the people are black in your dream decide one person in the crowd must be white and look for him. Or, in a school setting, decide some of the students must be cheerleaders and look for them.
I would then move to controlling the flow of DCs. Try to go some where and plan on there being no DCs. Try to find a setting with only female DCs and stuff like that. As your brain develops its summon DC skills you arre working your way up to advanced summon DC skills, such as make DC materialize, change one DC so it becomes DC of your choice, or locate a specific person.

I came to this thread because I have the same problem lately, and have always struggled with it anyway but this sounds excellent! I will have to try

Originally Posted by Zeal

No matter how hard I try, I can't seem to bring the people of my choice into my dream.

I'll keep imagining a certain person being around the corner, behind a door in a different room, anywhere. It just won't work.

I know that you need to believe in things to make them work, but when you failed to do it a hundred times, you kinda stop believing :/. It's a vicious circle, I already know it's not going to work thus it's impossible for me to really believe it.

At first I thought it didn't work because it's something that's impossible in real life, but I learned to fly in a matter of minutes and I can put my hand through a wall without trouble (I sometimes use that as my reality check)

Any help?

I have summoned dream characters if I try for a couple nights, but what I have only ever done once with difficulty is going thru a wall!!!!! so hard!!!!!!!!!!!!

I live in an apt, and whenever I wake up lucid in my bed, I goto the next door in the hallway, or i pick one, which has what I am expecting on the other side. I don't think hard about it, or about specific people, I think about the idea or location where I want to be on the other side. (and yes I guess I expect whoever i'm trying to summon there too i guess, but its more general for me)