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      Question about dream control--need help

      I seriously need help with this one...please. Dream guides? Anyone with experience?


      I believe I had my first LD in a long time and not a fake one. I also believe I had dream control. But this brings up a very important question. Let me tell pieces of the dream so you can see:

      In my dream, I faced a woman who was supposed to be my mom. I recognized that she wasn't my real mom. This woman was very in control of me and mean. I immediately said out loud, "I am dreaming. Reality Check." I ran to the microwave and saw the time clearly. I turned away and said to self, "This is it! This is how I will know" I looked back and saw the clock was fuzzy and altered.

      QUESTION--How do I know I didn't dream to alter the clock so to make myself think I was in a lucid dream??

      Continuing--I didn't like the dream. And I tried to escape. The woman said to me--"Oh, you are not dreaming. Stop acting silly. You are not going to get away from me." I tried to alter the dream setting. No luck. I tried to fly. I flew a bit, but was grabbed and brought back down. I ran down the street and bumped into a famous actor. I asked for help.

      QUESTION--If I was in lucid and capable of thinking for myself and dream control, why would I ask a stranger for help? If I knew it as a dream and I couldn't control it, why would I ask a stranger? This shows I wasn't thinking logical. Was I again--dreaming about lucidity? How do you know for sure?

      Continuing--I hated the dream badly and wanted to escape. I did do other reality checks to make sure I was lucid. Each one proved I was dreaming. And I did become excited to see that I was really noticing this. So I yelled, "I wanted to change this!" But nothing happened. I remember a conversation I had with someone here at the forum about not making an enemy with your subconscious. I looked to the sky, "Subconsious--we got to work together. I am sorry for being mean. I don't like this dream. I want out." I heard a voice in my head--'where do you want to go.' I thought of Walt Disney World--my precious childhood memories and happiness.

      QUESTION--If I was truly lucid (thinking logical), I would have thought more thoroughly on where to go. It was more of a sudden thought. This tells me it was a dream thought. Again--Was I dreaming lucidity and dream control? How would I really know the difference?

      Continuing--I saw a banner and curtains with Walt Disney written above. I smiled as I walked through. Keep in mind, I was being constrained/held by a man who worked for the nasty woman. When we went through--it was beautiful. Sunny sky, families, rides, food, horses and carriages, Disney characters. But I was afraid of what was behind me--the man still holding me. I said, "Please be my father." I looked up and saw my father looking down at me and hugging me. I then saw the rest of my family join me. We went to eat at a restaurant. Sat down. My mom sat away from us. I started to question this--started to analyze or interpret why my dream did this.

      QUESTION--Analyzing a dream during a dream--is that a sign of lucidity?

      Continuing--I ate some breadsticks and felt real good. I saw a beautiful horse and buggy out the window. It got me thinking--"This is too good to be true. I don't want to destroy this. i don't want to lose control." I remembered in my dream that some people on the forum saying that their control doesn't last long. I turned to my family and said, "I want the dream to end now. Thank you." My dad looked at me surprised. "Why?" he asked. I said, "I just feel it is time." Dad nodded. "If that is what you want," he said. My family got up to leave. The waitress had came by to take our order--"You're leaving already?" We headed out and I felt everyone looking at me in shock. I then woke up.

      MY BIG QUESTION--Can one dream they have dream control? Was I really lucid and was I really in control? How do you know for certain.


      I really appreciate any help. I am being serious. This dream is bothering me. It is a big thing for me since it has been so long that I have achieved anything like this.
      Thank you so much!!


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      Dear Dew Dust,

      Lucid Dreaming is not some Absolute. People lead you to believe that your will have some God-Like Control over your own Subconscious Mind and even over the Superconscious and Collective Minds. As you have found out, you remain just one small piece of a Total Universe.

      Those who do achieve a great deal of control do so by effectively separating off from the subconscious, superconscious and collective Minds -- they are 'taking their ball and going home' leaving the game and going off to a personal isolation.

      The Mother who was not your Mother -- you have met the Archetypical Goddess/Oracle. You Lucid Dreamers call her the Goddess Glad, but she was not very happy was she. Lucid Dreaming is turning out to not be what you expected, but you can be reassured that you have the best of all Patronesses.

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      Yes, you were really lucid. Quality of a lucid dream and the degree of control you can have depends on many factors that are hard to understand and even harder to put together.

      Lucid dreams range from passive "I know I'm dreaming" to truly epic where you are as close to being yourself as you can get. Most LDs are somewhere in between the two extremes.

      now to your questions: even altering the clock at will is a sign that you are dreaming. Pretty much every time you see clock alter in a not normal way you may assume it's a dream.

      Sometimes you dont think logical in a LD. It might happen because of lack of focus, low quality of a LD or lack of experience.

      Now unless you think of what you want to do in advance, you will most likely behave randomly. For most people it means sex, flying or exploring. There are many things to capture your mind in a dream and there's generally no time to think about where you want to go (unless you are having an epic lucid dream )
      If you have some specific experiments in mind, you should specify that you want to try them next time you have a LD.

      It is somewhat common (at least for me) to analyze dreams and sometimes it leads me to writing them down in a dream, unfortunately it's very bad for recall

      Dreaming of being lucid is rare (for me ). Even if you are dreaming of being lucid, you have some degree of awareness.

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      Thank you--the both of you. i am learning more and more thanks to this forum.

      now to your questions: even altering the clock at will is a sign that you are dreaming. Pretty much every time you see clock alter in a not normal way you may assume it's a dream. *
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      That does make sense.

      Dreaming of being lucid is rare (for me *). Even if you are dreaming of being lucid, you have some degree of awareness.[/b]
      LDing is rare for me too. I have to really work hard on it.
      And next time I will have a plan.
      I know I was over-anaylzing myself, but I wasn't sure. Now I have a lot of my questions answered and feeling more confident. Thanks.


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      I read somewhere on this site that your degree of control is affected by your self-confidence.

      That is, if you are not so sure of your self, or your abilities, you won't be albe to do much. don't think "I hope I can do this!" instead, think "this will happen now!" or "I will do this". and you have to be sure that it indeed will happen.

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