Ideas on how to use dream characters as a guide ?

[presence]

I became lucid today and tried an experiment and went more into a passive role. I started asking if the DC wants to kiss me. The DC said no and i asked her: Can you say me which of this girls want to kiss me ? Then she started pointing "maybe" so and so, she named the name of the other DC pointed in the direction. So i went there and asked, but she said no and pointed to another one and said "maybe" she, but it still did not work. It started to work partially after i asked 5 times or so. Have you got ideas for higher success rate ? I thought i would ask the DC the next time: Who of those girls would kiss me, guaranteed ? My DCs are weird... they behave like they are outside of my mind and i have stopped influencing them.

[GangsterPanda]

Hey, It's cool how you are experimenting with the dream world, it reminds me of how I was before my restart. The best bit of advice I can give you is mind control, I have to say though that normally in most lucid dreams DC's agree to most things. At a high lucidity level. There's no way of guaranteeing that DC's will do things you say. Nothing is set in stone in dreams so you can do fun and quirky ways of getting around your perspective of 'laws'. Both 'physical' and 'justice' wise. For example some people find it hard to fly... So why not make a jet pack? Or some people find it hard to breath underwater... So why not just manifest a submarine? You see what I'm getting at? There's always a way around things in dreams and as soon as you view it like this then it will be a lot easier. -GangsterPanda

[TwoCrystalCups]

You can't make a DC do something, unless you summoned it for your personal use. You can't walk up to one and ask stuff, it doesn't work, actually not for me but i don't know about someone else's experience about accomplishing it this way.

[presence]

Hey, It's cool how you are experimenting with the dream world, it reminds me of how I was before my restart. The best bit of advice I can give you is mind control, I have to say though that normally in most lucid dreams DC's agree to most things. At a high lucidity level. There's no way of guaranteeing that DC's will do things you say. Nothing is set in stone in dreams so you can do fun and quirky ways of getting around your perspective of 'laws'. Both 'physical' and 'justice' wise. For example some people find it hard to fly... So why not make a jet pack? Or some people find it hard to breath underwater... So why not just manifest a submarine? You see what I'm getting at? There's always a way around things in dreams and as soon as you view it like this then it will be a lot easier. -GangsterPanda Hey, thanks for your advice. Ironically i have had another lucid dream a few hours ago, where i asked the question above with the "guaranteed" one, once i have found my self, being aware in a food stand. This guy send me 10 meters to a party or so, lol. Anyways i said in the dream that "I am confident", and then i had a higher success rate, those affirmations seem too work directly on the physical level, i am more confident now. I noticed that when i try to force too hard, nothing really works, but when i do it more slightly, the DCs are more cool with me. About the flying part: I have a hard time flying when i stand directly on the ground, but when i am in the building i just jump easily through the window, without opening it. And then i fly around spontaneuously. Oh man, those dream control stuff is quite weird.

[presence]

You can't make a DC do something, unless you summoned it for your personal use. You can't walk up to one and ask stuff, it doesn't work, actually not for me but i don't know about someone else's experience about accomplishing it this way. Yeah, i recognized that in my latest LD a few hours ago. I thought that those DCs are somehow interconnected with my subconscious and therefore know what's best. But seems not to work for me too.

[TwoCrystalCups]

Maybe make lots of DC friends, you can do that, but takes time. I'm always with DC friends that aren't real life friends.

[presence]

Do you mean like "real" friends, that you recognize once you are lucid ? They could be a nice reminder for a reality check.

[TwoCrystalCups]

Do you mean like "real" friends, that you recognize once you are lucid ? They could be a nice reminder for a reality check. No i mean just friends that chill with you where ever you go, i call them dream friends they conversate with you sometimes but obviously you won't understand what is said most of the time. But as scary as it is for me, i usually don't remember making so many friends in dreams and once they come back i am surprised that i had a lot of friends and they all look different. So you can ask those kind of dcs for help.

[presence]

No i mean just friends that chill with you where ever you go, i call them dream friends they conversate with you sometimes but obviously you won't understand what is said most of the time. But as scary as it is for me, i usually don't remember making so many friends in dreams and once they come back i am surprised that i had a lot of friends and they all look different. So you can ask those kind of dcs for help. Nice, that sounds like a lot of fun. I'm going to try that. As my friends, they are probably less likely to lie to me, lol.

[gab]

Try Jedi style. Tell her, not ask. Say "you want to kiss me, right"? And believe that she does.