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      Quote Originally Posted by 11Greg View Post
      I saw this thread a little awhile ago, I haven't kept up with the recent replies, and i'm not an accomplished LD'er. Tonight was the second night since joining the forums that I had a lucid dream. I used this opportunity to try some LD sex, I 'climaxed' many times in my dream, and just kept going, the last one was the strongest not only did it wake me up but I physically climaxed in my pajama bottoms. I had to under go stabilization 3 times, but I just stopped did the look at your hands really closely and returned to my dream scene where the DC involved at the time was just waiting patiently for me.

      When I saw your thread, I didn't think it would be possible to a certain degree, but it happened and it is possible sir.
      I'm encouraged by how well stabilization techniques appear to work for this application (not just in this thread, but other one's too). I think somewhere in my mind I half-assumed that an orgasm would be too much for a dream to handle, but I'm really starting to wonder if it's just an unfortunate schema I gave myself at some point. After all, wet dreams aren't all that unheard of, and there are plenty of people (such as yourself) who swear dream orgasms are possible.

      I bolded the part of your response that mentioned pajama bottoms, as I wonder if sleep attire has any sort of impact on one's ability to reach a climax in a dream. I also wonder if the physical body moves at all during dream sex, and if so, if there is any difference between wearing boxers vs. pajamas vs. sleeping nude (or if the type of material comes into play, such a cotton vs. silk).

      Quote Originally Posted by blizzardesigns View Post
      It's all about being as passive as possible and not letting judgement trigger a set of emotional reactions. Just let go of your own judgement, and see the world (dream) for what it really is, and it will never destabilize.
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      Another way to understand this is, the stability during excitation in dreams is dependent on the focal of the dream. So you have to focus with all of your concentration on one spot that you'd like to be the constant of that dream either look at a certain detail, and attempt to concentrate on it while with your peripheral vision paying attention to the changes that occur around the focal point. Everywhere you look will stay a constant, everywhere your peripheral vision is will change into the metaphors of your thought forms. So if you'd like to keep the female the only constant, pay real attention to her. However don't ever get distracted by your peripheral vision or the focus will shift to that.
      I'm definitely going to give the "passive observer" approach a try. About the second part, I've now heard conflicting things and both methods seem to make sense. On one hand, it makes sense that you'd want to pay some attention to your surroundings to keep the dreamscape itself from destabilizing. On the other hand, it also make sense that you can stabilize a dream by doing the exact opposite, and narrowing your focus down to some sort of small detail (to counteract the whole "information-overload" issue). What I wonder is if it would be best to just narrow my focus the whole time (like on her body) or if I should be looking around and taking in the rest of the dream to keep it from dissolving away?


      Quote Originally Posted by FryingMan View Post
      I've been wondering about this "dream computational complexity" situation. Can the mind sustain highly detailed open vistas for long periods (multiple minutes at least) while lucid (or non-lucid), or does experiencing these scenes absolutely necessitate frequent "recovery" (reboot as sivason says) periods? I suppose everyone's different, but it's interesting to consider.

      I've experienced amazingly detailed ultra high def vistas in LDs that ended abruptly after just a 10-15 seconds, for no reason that I can think of other than perhaps: 1) REM was over, 2) the scene was too complex (individual trees with branches stretching into the far horizon).

      Last night I had an amazing semi-lucid (maybe low-level lucid) that included an approx 1 minute stretch of ultra high def jet flying over a highly detailed nighttime city scape with freeways, city lights, tons of objects in the sky, etc., it's probably the most amazing thing I've ever seen in a dream, and it lasted a decent long while. Maybe the extra processing drain that being highly lucid makes sustaining these highly detailed, sweeping vista scenes harder to maintain? Maybe I could sustain it so long (compared to my previous ones) because my lucidity was very low/in the background?

      As for dream orgasm, I've thought of a technique but never remember to try it out, but since there is nothing physical involved, I think one need not have a long time leading up to it. I've though of summoning a big, red "c*m now!" button and just slamming it to see what happens, skipping all the stuff in the middle. I know another good dreamer (to remain anonymous ) who has mentioned that you can just fast forward right to the climax since it's all in your head, anyway. As for me, the journey is the point, so I don't want to do that, but may try it just to see if I can get it to work.
      Yeah I've thought about that too, but the brain is an extremely powerful supercomputer. Given how realistic and expansive video games are nowadays (and how little processing power those consoles have versus the brain), it makes me curious as to the exact nature of the "bogging down" problem. For me personally, I don't think I've ever run into this issue with nLDs, which makes me even more curious as to what is going on. Is it really just our mind trying to process more information than it can handle, or does it have something specifically to do with lucidity? I have no clue.
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      Quote Originally Posted by TheUncanny View Post
      I'm definitely going to give the "passive observer" approach a try. About the second part, I've now heard conflicting things and both methods seem to make sense. On one hand, it makes sense that you'd want to pay some attention to your surroundings to keep the dreamscape itself from destabilizing. On the other hand, it also make sense that you can stabilize a dream by doing the exact opposite, and narrowing your focus down to some sort of small detail (to counteract the whole "information-overload" issue). What I wonder is if it would be best to just narrow my focus the whole time (like on her body) or if I should be looking around and taking in the rest of the dream to keep it from dissolving away?
      the whole passive idea is relative to the way dreams work when you're not lucid, despite how exciting those dreams are they never just end with you waking up (in non lucid dreams), and i think it's because you think it's not a dream. When you're lucid you know it's not real, and that is the opposite of being passive. Basically calming down and not allowing thoughts to interfere with the process. It's a bit confusing but there's always that regret from the past, and anxiety for the future. I've had lucid dreams where everything was crystal clear, and i'd walk around looking up close, but the moment I see an attractive woman i'd wake up just from the hype. Other times i'd be lucid and do a bunch of stuff and then i'd forget it's a dream and it would just continue the way I set it up. I think what would be best would be to start with one single focal point and slowly expand your awareness into the peripheral (gradually), and eventually you won't even have to stabilize it.

      Another interesting theory I had to why this didn't work is because of: When you are about to die in a dream you wake up right before you die, sex is referred to as minor death by some religions, so that might have something to do with it.

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      ^^ My issue with lucid dream sex is that I experience transitions away from the sexy scene almost instantly. It used to be as I was approaching my partner to start, but now I can manage to get a few seconds in to the act before it happens. I have no warning ahead of time, I just feel the "wake up" feeling, sort of a buzzing transition and the scene vanishes in a fraction of a second. It's not a slow fade, so I have no opportunity to save it.

      However, it may be a self-fulfilling prophecy, since it could be that at dream end time is when I'm the most aroused and think most about sex in the dream, and I'm just not paying attention to the environment properly and not noticing the tell-tale signs of approaching dream end/transition.

      I've since discovered that I don't always "wake up" fully, but rather as I mentioned, I experience a transition to another scene. This could be I suppose due to a SC expectation that I wake up at sexy times, which is hopeful since it means I'm not physically waking up, I should be able to manage it by proper concentration.

      Two nights ago I had two opportunities where I (semi?) lucidly had dream encounters, and where I purposefully tried to extend my attention partially to the scene around me. In the first case I noticed peripherally that my partner's face seemed to be disintegrating/deteriorating then I experienced the end/transition, and in the second case it didn't seem to help at all, a few seconds after starting I transitioned apparently into a FA.

      So yeah, lots of work to be done, but slowly it seems like I'm able to get farther along. It would probably help a lot to not start sexy time without full possession of my lucid mental faculties, but like I said, it seems that sex comes up when I'm on the border or losing my lucidity.
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      I did it.

      I had a DILD this morning, and as is often the case when I have an unexpected LD with no particular goal in mind, I decided to go looking for some action. After finding a suitable DC I noticed the dream's stability wavering. I'm not sure if this was due to excitement or the fact that it was relatively late in the morning, but it was enough for me to stop what I was doing an try some stabilization techniques. I tried shouting "STABILIZE" but with limited success. Rubbing my hands together worked pretty well, but it felt like I was only just enough to keep the dream from degrading further...not enough to bring it back to normal. So I decided to try sivason's technique of "zooming" my field of vision in onto a small detail. In this case it was just a wall, but I put my face really close to it and just tried observing it for a few moments, the color of the paint, its texture, etc. It worked

      Anyway, I'll limit the details of the sexual encounter itself, but basically there were very few obstacles this time around. I did have to stop at one point because the person had changed into someone else halfway through, but other than that it was surprisingly straight forward. The climax itself was rather underwhelming BUT there was a distinct something right there at the end, which was confirmed by the dream, erm, "money shot" that followed.
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