Thread: Door Method Not Working

What I do is find a door, open it not really expecting it to change or anything, then I close it and then picture the room changeing then open it agian. You can also try flying some place but that one doesn't work for me as well.

Maybe you could try spawning a teleporter that teleports you to the desired location.

If there is no door, you can't use a door, improvise.

Imagine a door if you have to, talk to a DC and ask them to take you there - it might work

use your creativity and imagination - windows, walls, imagine it's there...

if you don't make it - then do something else in the dream, take advantage of being lucid, don't be disapponted that the door technique didn't work - you achieved lucidity!

Originally Posted by justme

What I do is find a door, open it not really expecting it to change or anything, then I close it and then picture the room changeing then open it agian. You can also try flying some place but that one doesn't work for me as well.
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Yeah, I have difficulties flying at all, and when I do succeed I usually don't have any destination in mind. I am still fairly new to lucid dreaming, my experiences only starting about two months ago. As for the door thing, that is interesting. I actually think it would be easier NOT knowing what was on the other side. Since the logical portion of my brain tells me that what's on the other side of the door is static, that it isn't going to change. Even though I know in a dream such things are not true, it's really hard to turn off that logic. For instance in my dream where I was in my college, in real life behind the doors were classrooms. My brain knows this and thus subconciously expects them to be there when I open the door. However with an unknown door, the brain can only wonder at what lies beyond. This for me makes it much easier to control the outcome.

Originally Posted by justme

Maybe you could try spawning a teleporter that teleports you to the desired location.
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I am not really good at summoning objects yet. I can pull things from behind my back. Maybe I can pull a pocket sized teleporter from back there heh.

Originally Posted by justme

If there is no door, you can't use a door, improvise.

Imagine a door if you have to, talk to a DC and ask them to take you there - it might work

use your creativity and imagination - windows, walls, imagine it's there...

if you don't make it - then do something else in the dream, take advantage of being lucid, don't be disapponted that the door technique didn't work - you achieved lucidity!
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Yeah, the very first time I looked for a door, in my first "real" lucid dream (IE first one with any significant control), I could not find one, rather instead I eventually found a massive archway. I decided this would have to do and faced my back to it, willing it to change when I turned around. The first time it didn't, but when I tried again it did. This is the only time the door trick has worked for me. Oh and I'm not too disappointed, I mean, becoming lucid is still a very new and "magical" feeling to me. Though I don't believe it is magic, that doesn't make it any less magical feeling. In the almost two months I have been trying, I have gotten to the point now where I average one lucid dream every 3 nights, sometimes more often. I have a lot of different goals and things I wanna do. Usually however I don't become lucid in the setting I'd like. That is, I'll find myself somewhere rather mundane like my own house or college etc. Not that there isn't plenty of fun to be had in any lucid dream in most any setting, but I can hang out in my house or at college in real life though. I'd rather be somewhere much more awesome like the middle of a beautiful outdoor landscape or on the moon looking down at earth or... you get the idea. More to the point, I actually rather like your suggestion of asking a DC. The last time (and indeed only time in a lucid dream) I asked a dream character for something, it immediatly happened. I am definitely going to attempt that one.

Thank you all for your suggestions, I really appreciate them and if anyone has any more please don't hesitate to share them!

Originally Posted by dreamerer

Maybe you could try spawning a teleporter that teleports you to the desired location.
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i've been trying to create a teleporter but keep forgetting in my lucids just make up a box go inside shout out the place you want to go eg. "the beach" open it and you should appear at the beach can someone try this and tell me how you went?

So I had a very vivid lucid dream last night. I dreamt of WILDing and indeed dreamt of succeeding WILD, which caused me to become lucid. I became lucid in my bedroom and it was pitch black (as it would be in real life at night). I preformed a BUNCH of reality checks, since if I had actually woken up I would be in this exact same setting. Well the reality checks showed I was indeed dreaming. My first task was to get out of my bedroom. I suppose I could of used the door and exited into my house, but that wouldn't have been any fun. Instead I decided to just go through the wall into my backyard. Having never attempted to pass through solid matter before I first tested the wall by pushing on it with my hands. Solid as a... wall. Not really discouraged I decided maybe if I just attempted to leap through it I could do it. I stepped back a bit and jumped. I made it 75% through and kind of stuck. My head was outside but a portion of my torso and legs were within the wall. I could see outside and it was daylight and quite a nice day. I wriggled free of the wall and then was completely outside. I decided to try find a dream character and ask them how to get where I wanted to go. Well I could not find any people, the only other entity around was one of my cats, Muffin. As silly as it seems I decided I might as well ask her. Upon doing so she took off running so I followed her, thinking maybe this was gonna work. After a while of running and also flying I realized I wasn't getting anywhere. I decided to attempt to summon a transporter device to take me where I wanted to go. I couldn't summon one but then I stumbled upon one nearby. I remember thinking "Oh duh, why was I looking for a transporter, there's always one right here." It took me to a cave like setting. I explored for a while. It was kind of neat. Eventually I found a hole. I decided that I would jump down this hole and at the bottom would be my destination. I plunged into the hole headfirst. It worked, and I found myself in exactly the right place. At first there was a wierd mismatched size phenomena, but I remedied it quickly. Overall another awesome experience. Kudos to you guys for the suggestions!

Well i know what your problem is, because first when u started using that method you were hoping that it would happen as it was supposed to happen, but now since u did it a few times, you dont hope itll happen but you know itll happen - and that's the problem, you CAN'T know what will happen, because thats completely illogical for your mind and it blocks it.

I tried the door method too and it didn't work for me either. I wasn't trying to step into new scenery; I was trying to make a certain person appear, but I thought about it and then opened the door and it was just an empty boring room

Originally Posted by shill

I tried the door method too and it didn't work for me either. I wasn't trying to step into new scenery; I was trying to make a certain person appear, but I thought about it and then opened the door and it was just an empty boring room
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Well to be honest, I was attempting to change the scenery and summon a person. I'm trying a new method now that I have high hopes for. All throughout the day like maybe 10 times a day I tell myself what I am going to do the next time I become lucid. That is, how I'm going to reach this person. I tell myself that when I become lucid, I am going to turn around and at the same time speak their name. They will have been standing behind me all along waiting for me to become lucid, turn and see them. Then we can work on changing the scenery together. I really think this is going to work.

Well, I got lucid Friday morning and attempted my technique. It didn't work I trying to think up a new plan now. Oh well it was worth a shot, I'm not completely convinced it won't work either. One of those "just gotta believe it will" types of things.

Keep at it

Hey I got an idea! Somebody try this, I just made it up:

Hand over-the-eye Technique

All you have to do is:

*Stop moving (if your good enough, keep skip this step)
*Put one of your hands over your eyes so you can't see.
* The say, "I will appear at (your desired location) when I move my hand down" (preferably something simpler/easier to say).
*Then move your hand away, and you might already be there!

Hope it works if you try it!

Originally Posted by Leixor

Well, I got lucid Friday morning and attempted my technique. It didn't work I trying to think up a new plan now. Oh well it was worth a shot, I'm not completely convinced it won't work either. One of those "just gotta believe it will" types of things.
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I have no problem getting people i want into my dreams i just think that they will be around the corner and it works

I became lucid because of a false awakening this morning (first time that's happened). Anyway after jumping through my bedroom wall to get outside again, I immediatly tried my "turning around and speaking their name" method. It didn't work and I learned something important. For some reason, and I don't know why, any quick rotational motion (I.E. turning around quickly, or dream spinning, basically spinning motions) causes my dreams to fade. Well anyway I managed to refocus it. Then I just decided to call out this person names as loud as I could and maybe it would work. Oddly enough I could barely speak at all, the louder I tried to speak the softer my voice was. Nevertheless after probably 20 seconds it worked! My dream ended shortly thereafter but regardless it worked. Gotta make sure to try that again, and figure out why I couldn't speak very well.

Maybe the 'around the corner' method. That worked for me a few times.

Otherwise try the 'fly though the wall' or maybe go though a portal that teleports you to a doom3-like in-between state or something.

Good luck!

Heres what ive done in a number of dreams.
Imagine the scene around you shrinking into a tiny dot, not completely closed.
(Just like the looney toons cartoons)
And then expand it back into a different scene.
It worked for me.

spinning mess it all up for me too.

another method: go in somewhere completely dark. if you have no scenary to delete and rebuild, it's half the work for the brain.

(other hand, it may also work just for my 486 brain - it still runs windows 3.11 )

Originally Posted by Gez

Heres what ive done in a number of dreams.
Imagine the scene around you shrinking into a tiny dot, not completely closed.
(Just like the looney toons cartoons)
And then expand it back into a different scene.
It worked for me.
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That sounds like a great idea. I think all there really is to it is not being able to see something, but when you see it, it will look how you want it.

See if you can conjure up your Dream Guide for help.

First - off topic:
IS THAT A RACCOON WEARING A JET PACK UP THERE IN GEZ'S SIG?


Okay - on topic: My favorite thing to try is asking dream characters where I can find what I'm looking for. Problem is, half the time they have no idea what I'm talking about. The other half they are either wrong or there isn't anyone around to ask, or the dream ends before I get to where they said. I am definitely going to try shouting again, I had avoided before because it seemed way too simple and straightforward. Well it worked once so there's a good chance it will again.

No need for doors or spinning or anything like that, just change where you are. Nothing around you is real, so just have it to change to wherever you want to be.
Though, it is a pretty hard technique to master, its very handy, Ive only done it a few times so far...

Good point. Just will it to change.

Originally Posted by italianmonkey

spinning mess it all up for me too.

another method: go in somewhere completely dark. if you have no scenary to delete and rebuild, it's half the work for the brain.

(other hand, it may also work just for my 486 brain - it still runs windows 3.11 )
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It's really interesting that you say that. My lucid dream last night started in my room (false awakening). In my room it is COMPLETELY dark. Before I go to bed at night I cover any and all light sources. The reason I realized it was a false awakening is because for just a second I could see the sky through my window. My window is normally blacked out when I'm sleeping. This caused me to attempt a reality check and realize I was dreaming. I got out of bed and peered out the window into my backyard. I saw the sky which looked like rain, the pond which is behind my apartment and a lot of people. I put my hand on the glass to try to go through it (which I've never managed before). It felt solid and cold, like glass. I stepped back from the window a few feet and got ready to dive through it (which has worked before). At this point the room is completely black. I dive through the window and arrive in my backyard, just as it had looked through the window. I suppose maybe if I hadn't of looked, anything I wanted to be could have been beyond that wall. I'll have to try that next time I become lucid in my room. Also of note is the fact that I CAN dive through walls and windows. Seems like a good way to change the scenery to me. I'll have to try that soon.

Originally Posted by italianmonkey

Good point. Just will it to change.
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I haven't had much luck willing the entire landscape to change. I've changed a lot of smaller things though. There's something intimidating about changing the entire world around you that makes it difficult for me. I will probably be able to do it one day. I'm actually pretty happy with my overall progress in lucid dreaming. In just a little over two months I've gone from not even knowing what it was, to being able to do it roughly once every three nights. From my lucid dreams lasting 4 seconds to an average now of 4 minutes.

Wow man, you're good. I haven't gotten nearly as far as you have and I've been hard at it for about two and a half months now.

I just hatched another idea though. You said you could change small things, but not entire landscapes. So why don't you try breaking it down abit? For example, first, change the texture of the ground around you. Then maybe the sky, then the houses, then the people... Those aren't exactly small things, but they're smaller.

when i want a change of scenery.. hmm.. i think i find the nearest window and jump through it.. and i fall into somewhere? haha.. one time i did that and i fell into a bookstore on a shelf of books. it was rather funny. otherwise i just run forward. and i'm somewhere else? haha i love lucidity and dream control...!