Thread: Dream Control: the complete tutorial

great thread! i never concidered passive control.

so anything that has an explaination can happen?
if i wanted to summon something, could i use a transmutation circle
to trick my mind into thinking summoning was logical?

how logical does it need to be?

Originally Posted by Asem

so anything that has an explaination can happen?
if i wanted to summon something, could i use a transmutation circle
to trick my mind into thinking summoning was logical?

how logical does it need to be?

Not anything that has an explanation, anything that has an established system. And it needn't be logical at all, you just need to be familiar with it.

A transmutation circle will work fine. But it will work better for someone who studies and practices those circles than for someone who's just heard them mentioned in passing. The more familiar you are with that particular system, the more reliable it will be.

A deeply religious person will better be able to use divine intervention in dreams than someone who doesn't believe in God.

Most of the time if i just want something to happen it will. I dont even have to think about it, just to know that i want to fly results in flight. I dont know how this works tho.

Somebody might already have said this, but what if you passively convinced yourself that you were God?
To scale it down a bit, imagine this.
You "remembered" that you had been taking lessons from a powerful magician, etc. and as such you were able to use abilities akin to forced control, but without the negative effects, do you think this would work?

Originally Posted by The Cusp

Not anything that has an explanation, anything that has an established system. And it needn't be logical at all, you just need to be familiar with it.

A transmutation circle will work fine. But it will work better for someone who studies and practices those circles than for someone who's just heard them mentioned in passing. The more familiar you are with that particular system, the more reliable it will be.

A deeply religious person will better be able to use divine intervention in dreams than someone who doesn't believe in God.

If you're talking about bringing back a life in a dream, then forget it. But if you're talking about weapons, well... I'd hate to sound like a geek, but if I could, I'd use the laws of FMA if I had any paper and metalics around. Because I'd use the FMA weapon summonig to make a card captor staff out of the metallics, then I'd turn the paper into pokemon cards, and then use the staff to summon out some of my old freinds from my Pokemon yellow, Blue, Silver, and sapphire games. Unleashing utter, complete, HELL!! Ahhh, good times.

... I have to become lucid sooner or later! I gotta try this!

Well, if you could convince yourself well enough that God granted you powers, you wouldn't be able to do ANYTHING, per say, but only those things you really think God does and can do regularly. The more unlikely you think God would use a power, the more unlikely you will be able to use it. So make your source applicable to your goal.
And the more familiar you are with any mechanism, the more connections you have in your mind about it, so the more resources the unconscious can draw from for your request. I don't believe you can only dream about things you know, just that things you know can be dreamt more clearly.
-Jim

Originally Posted by jimmie

Well, if you could convince yourself well enough that God granted you powers, you wouldn't be able to do ANYTHING, per say, but only those things you really think God does and can do regularly. The more unlikely you think God would use a power, the more unlikely you will be able to use it. So make your source applicable to your goal.
And the more familiar you are with any mechanism, the more connections you have in your mind about it, so the more resources the unconscious can draw from for your request. I don't believe you can only dream about things you know, just that things you know can be dreamt more clearly.
-Jim

Well, I'm not here for a good time, or smite all of my enemies and be done with it. I'm here to understand them, stop some, as well as keep certain ones from killing people.

And I know, as a human, my limits under God. I'm Christian. So if dreams work off of how much detail my brain can support, and how logical it is, then I'm set because my brain was already doing psychic and what not. I just can't do it when I want because I'm not in control of myself, I just know how to do it, and what it feels like, otherwise I wouldn't be here... No offense intended. I really need someone who can dream share soon if I can't get this already.