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      If I understand what you mean by "rolling out" correctly, it would be what I call "shaking loose a dream body"

      I use this sometimes when I reach the Hypnogogic State, in between sleep and wakefulness. You will usually see visuals or hear things, but you still retain enough consciousness to know you are not dreaming. You will also be aware of of your body laying in bed at this point.

      From here I try to swing my arms and legs, but not my real ones. It strange being aware of my real body and a phantom one at the same time. I find arms and legs easier to separate from your real body than your torso and head. So starting with your arms and legs, just swing them around with more and more momentum until the rest of your dream body tears free from your real one. At this point, you've fully entered into dreaming, and you should still be aware enough to know you're dreaming. It helps if there is something moving in you HI visuals that you can move in rhythm with.

      I never experience vibrations.

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      I never experience vibrations.[/QUOTE]
      Quote Originally Posted by Shirls View Post
      Oh shoot, so what I'm experiencing is sleep paralysis and not lucid dreaming at that point? I am greatly comforted by what some one said somewhere about realizing that there is nothing to be afraid of. I think that by being frightened by the pain I manage to conjure up scary dreams instead of interesting ones. I WILL learn to relax.
      Well I think it would only be considered sleep paralysis if you are unable to move your physical body. Sleep paralysis isn't a prerequisit to rolling out, or shaking loose a dream body as the cusp put it. I would describe it as being awake and dreaming at the same time, sometimes I can see my room and a dream at the same time. I would consider it a lucid dream when you are entirley in your dream body and no longer aware of your physical body, but you can choose to define what exaclty a lucid dream is how ever you want.
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      “Will not a man who has seen nothing but the shadows of reality, not feel fear when exposed to the light?"

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      Quote Originally Posted by The Cusp View Post
      I never experience vibrations.
      If you were interested in feeling vibrations, I think I know how to induce them. Try imagining that you are squeezing an imaginary ball, see how much force you can put into squeezing without moving your physical hand. Then any time you wake up in the middle of the night try doing the same squeezing thing with your entire body. Sometimes this helps me get my dream body loose more easily.
      “Will not a man who has seen nothing but the shadows of reality, not feel fear when exposed to the light?"

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      I suppose you could imagine rolling out of your body to begin a lucid dream after WILDing, but that's not the way I do it. I perform the action of getting out of my bed as I would if I was awake, but since I'm under SP and am actually dreaming at that point, I'm really getting out of my "dream bed" to begin the lucid dream. I just find it more effective than imagining because its like you're actually doing an action.

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      That's the only kind of "rolling-out" I've heard of.
      You do this every fucking time.
      No sweat.
      No tears.
      No guilt.
      You do this every fucking time.


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      Quote Originally Posted by AmazeO XD View Post


      That's the only kind of "rolling-out" I've heard of.
      Lul. Optimus Prime.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Metaphyz1k View Post
      I suppose you could imagine rolling out of your body to begin a lucid dream after WILDing, but that's not the way I do it. I perform the action of getting out of my bed as I would if I was awake, but since I'm under SP and am actually dreaming at that point, I'm really getting out of my "dream bed" to begin the lucid dream. I just find it more effective than imagining because its like you're actually doing an action.
      i do this too. after i feel vibrations and i feel like i am still awake, i do the throat RC. (where you do a swallowing motion but you hold it in mid-swallow. try it right now and you should not be able to breathe. this works well because it involves very little movement.) so then if that says i am dreaming, then i just sit up like normal and go about my lucid business.

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