Thread: Whenever I become lucid I can't hold it and end up waking up :(

Hi everyone,

This is my first post, but i've been having lucid dreams for a while... my problem is I usually get brought out of it when I want to take full control of what I want to do in the dream.

I read somewhere that you should look at your hand and spin in a circle in the dream, but the dream ends up getting darker and darker and then I just wake up :\

Are there any other methods to staying in the dream??

I'm not familiar with all of your acronyms yet (lol) but the way I end up in lucidity is when i'm already in a really weird dream and realize that i'm actually dreaming (often toward the end of the dream??)

Thanks!
Mike

to DV Mike!!!

The way I stay in the dream is to rub my hands together. Not only do I get to stay in the dream longer because of it, it also stabilizes the dream.

Also, the way you entered the dream is by the DILD method, or Dream-Initiate-Lucid-Dream. It's probably the way a lot of the members here have their first LDs.

Originally Posted by Snowy Egypt

Also, the way you entered the dream is by the DILD method, or Dream-Initiate-Lucid-Dream. It's probably the way a lot of the members here have their first LDs.

thats how i had my first lucid dream.. or so i was told... the dream ended short when i looked in a mirror and saw a disfigured image of me, closed my eyes and tried to open them but wound up opening my real eyes instead.... i havent had a LD since.. that was about a week ago

I have no Idea if spinning really helps but it did do something for me. I was near my home and suddenly understood that I'm dreaming 'cause the fence was wrong XD and I started panicking that I might wake up soon so I started spining and so I wouldn't wake up I kept saying to myself: "I'm dreaming, I'm dreaming" and when I stoped spinning I realised I didn't go really far - I was just 3 mins of walkng from where I was before in that dream it sort of was really hot and I was wearing a jacket and gloves. so I took of the gloves but didn't think about the jacket. I wanted to fly but it was just too hot for me. then I saw a car going towards me and jumped over it and while I did that I thought I must be buried under blankets since it's so hot. and then I woke up
In another dream I understood that I'm dreaming and I thought that I'm gonna wake up soon so I tried to feel the texture of the ground in order to stay in the dream longer. but it didn't really work 'cause the ground was all soft like mud And I kept trying so hard that I forgot that I'm dreaming XD
About speaking in the dream - I read somewhere that the lips tend to wake up from sleep paralysis easily thus waking up the whole body as well. so who wakes up from speaking should try telephaty instead.(I never have problems with speaking...)

Originally Posted by mike6789

Hi everyone,

This is my first post, but i've been having lucid dreams for a while... my problem is I usually get brought out of it when I want to take full control of what I want to do in the dream.

I read somewhere that you should look at your hand and spin in a circle in the dream, but the dream ends up getting darker and darker and then I just wake up :\

Are there any other methods to staying in the dream??

I'm not familiar with all of your acronyms yet (lol) but the way I end up in lucidity is when i'm already in a really weird dream and realize that i'm actually dreaming (often toward the end of the dream??)

Thanks!
Mike

Hi mike, welcome to DV So, for stabilizing the dream, i read an article on the website "realityshifter.com" I'm pretty lazy, so i'm just gonna copy-paste the article. here is the actual link: http://www.realityshifter.com/2007/h...hile-dreaming/

How To Remain Lucid While Dreaming
June 16th, 2007
This article is part of the series Mastering the Art of Lucid Dreaming.

Once you become lucid within a dream, you may find the most difficult aspect is holding onto that awareness. It’s incredibly easy to become caught up in the events of the dream and quickly lose whatever lucidity was initially gained. You may achieve conscious awareness one moment and not even notice when it slips away in the next moment. This is a common occurrence and will happen less often as you continue your daily lucid dreaming practice and learn to control your level of awareness within the dream.

The first time you realize you’re dreaming, it is natural to feel a sense of excitement. It’s important not to allow yourself to be carried away by this excitement or it is very likely you’ll lose your hold on that conscious awareness and either become caught up in the dream again or possibly even wake yourself up. Try to remain calm and hold on to the thought that you are dreaming. Repeat to yourself, "I am dreaming. This is a dream." Focus your efforts on convincing yourself you are dreaming. This will help you maintain a firm hold on your newly achieved lucidity.

Sometimes it’s also necessary to take other simple steps to remain consciously aware and to increase your level of lucidity. As you become consciously aware, the dream details may become fuzzy and it might be necessary to request clarity from your own mind. This can be done quickly and easily with a statement such as "Give me clarity," or a command such as "Clarity now!", as described by William Buhlman in Adventures Beyond The Body. You may be surprised at how well your mind obeys the command.

Because the dream details can become fuzzy and slip in and out of view as you become more aware, it may help to focus on a specific object to hold the dream scene in place. Select an object that is prominent in the current dream scene. If a specific object triggered the initial realization that you were dreaming, using that particular object as your point of focus can reinforce the thought that you are in a dream and therefore work to enhance the lucidity.

If possible, select an object that is not likely to move itself away from your immediate area. For example, choose a stationary flower vase instead of something mobile such as a dog or cat. The pet is likely to wander out of the dream scene, while the vase is more likely to remain in place and therefore remain in focus. If you focus your attention on a moving object it may cause you to become caught up in the dream by following the object, and becoming caught up in the dream can quickly result in a loss of lucidity.

If no other object is immediately available to use as a point of focus, try focusing on your own hands instead. Hold both of your hands out in front of you and focus on them while concentrating on remaining lucid.

Another method for maintaining your conscious awareness is called spinning. As soon as you feel yourself losing your awareness and slipping back into a non-lucid state, or even whenever you feel a dream may be ending and you might wake up when you'd rather stay in the dream for a little while longer, try holding your arms wide open and spinning your dream body around. Pay attention to the physical sensations experienced by your dream body while spinning. By focusing your attention on the physical sensations your dream body is experiencing, you're more likely to hold yourself in the dream and to maintain a high level of lucidity.

Whenever you become lucid within your dream, beware of false awakenings. Achieving conscious awareness in your dream is often followed quickly by waking up. Just as often, you may find yourself only dreaming of waking up but not realizing you are still dreaming. This is known as a false awakening. It may seem extraordinarily realistic, sometimes to the extent that you do not question whether or not you have truly woken up. Whenever you believe you have woken up from a lucid dream, it's important to immediately perform a reality check to determine if you have truly woken up or if it is indeed only a dream of waking up.

Pardon my laziness. best of luck buddy

Originally Posted by mike6789

Hi everyone,

This is my first post, but i've been having lucid dreams for a while... my problem is I usually get brought out of it when I want to take full control of what I want to do in the dream.

I read somewhere that you should look at your hand and spin in a circle in the dream, but the dream ends up getting darker and darker and then I just wake up :\

Are there any other methods to staying in the dream??

I'm not familiar with all of your acronyms yet (lol) but the way I end up in lucidity is when i'm already in a really weird dream and realize that i'm actually dreaming (often toward the end of the dream??)

Thanks!
Mike

It happens because if you'd seen Lucidipedia it touches on what you experienced. Dreams die and are born again. What you had was a dream dying, what you can do is remain eyes closed and wait for any visual or audio to reform and before you know it a new lucid dream is born.

IMJ

So I tried the rubbing the hands together thing last night and it worked pretty well!!

I became lucid, ended up fading away.. tried focusing on an object but that made everything else go dark so then i rubbed my hands together and then I was pretty stable

Then I remembered the tasks of the months and ended up shooting rainbow firey glitter out of my hands, it was awesome .. then I tried to go to the beach but I just ended up flying way high up into the sky so I had an infinite view of what you would see if you were in an airplane (just blue sky and clouds) and I got super excited that all of this was working out and then everything just faded to black again and I woke up with a racing heart wondering to myself if that really just happened, haha.

I'm going to try the stuff that kiba posted next time, hopefully tonight !!!

I just wish I could figure out i'm dreaming way earlier in the dream(s) my DILD occurs wayyy into the dream after too much crazy stuff has already happened

Originally Posted by mike6789

So I tried the rubbing the hands together thing last night and it worked pretty well!!

Glad to hear it. If you've found something that works, stick with it. Although you should know why rubbing your hands together works. It's because you are engaging your senses. Feeling things, tasting things, the feeling of movement, all these can help sustain the dream. I usually rely on flying to stop from waking up, but that can be problematic because it's so much fun I forget to do anything else. Hand rubbing sounds like a nice simple method.

spinning can sometimes make the lucid dream become fuzzy or make you wake up. Unless you're at a very high level of lucidity, I wouldn't do it. The rubbing hands thing is definately one that works a lot, but I find that talking to myself in the dream helps most. I dont know what it is, but I guess something about using my voice really clears everything up for me.

Originally Posted by lagunagirl

spinning can sometimes make the lucid dream become fuzzy or make you wake up. Unless you're at a very high level of lucidity, I wouldn't do it. The rubbing hands thing is definately one that works a lot, but I find that talking to myself in the dream helps most. I dont know what it is, but I guess something about using my voice really clears everything up for me.

can u explain ur method of talking to urself within the dream? cuz ur right, spinning always does wake me up. so maybe this would help

Originally Posted by mike6789

Hi everyone,

This is my first post, but i've been having lucid dreams for a while... my problem is I usually get brought out of it when I want to take full control of what I want to do in the dream.

I read somewhere that you should look at your hand and spin in a circle in the dream, but the dream ends up getting darker and darker and then I just wake up :\

Are there any other methods to staying in the dream??

I'm not familiar with all of your acronyms yet (lol) but the way I end up in lucidity is when i'm already in a really weird dream and realize that i'm actually dreaming (often toward the end of the dream??)

Thanks!
Mike

Focus on your surroundings with a great intensity.

For example, let's say you get lucid in a supermarket dream. Immediately, pay attention to what surorunds you. See how blue the chip bags are? Look how bright the light is. See how it flickers a bit? Look at the linoleum and how it shines, etc. You need to intensify your surroundings.

Whenever the lucid starts to fade i rub my hands together and the dream keeps getting clearer and clearer and also more vivid, then i stop when i am happy.

So this does 2 things. Increase the clarity and the vividness of the dream.

I rub my hands together and that icreases the vividness of the dream and the clarity of the dream increases by second so i just stop when i am happy.

:THIS MAY NOT BE THE RIGHT PLACE TO POST THIS....

Waking up from a dream has been something I could always do. However, It usually is a forced action on my part. I am Forcing my self to wake up for no reason only to wake up. and moments before I am Unable to move my body...(Prior to waking I can not move my arms or legs at all. FEEL RESTRAINED.)

this forced action is accompanied by thought "I am awake, I can see everything around me, I cannot move, I am worried that I cannot wake up."

this goes on several times in the night. 3 - 4 times a night. and usually(seemingly) seconds after I fall asleep.
The Visuals that I have are not of seeing myself. But, As if I am wide awake and can see the room as if I were just laying there relaxing. However, No motor movement.

ANy ideas? THis is a generalization however as accurate as I can be in detail.

Also, TO be more specific, Once I do go to sleep I have regular dreams. No restrictions dreaming. ? Puzzling for me and very Bothersome...

Theoretically speaking... It is some sort of uncontrollable Astral-Projection. and I force awakening because of FEAR?? any other theories?

I very rarely have an LD in the middle of a dream or DILD (if that’s what its called)
I always LD first thing after my head hits the pillow… I’ll feel the familiar shift happening
and then I push into it. Afterwards if I wake up, I can sometimes re-enter if im not too
wide awake. But once I cannot do this I then fall into true sleep. Ive LDed hundreds
of times in my life but ive only LDed maybe only 5 or 6 times in the morning. But very
rarely in-between going to sleep and morning. I sleep the sleep of the dead so theres
no LDing for me once im fully asleep. I sometimes have trouble tho, holding the dream
and spinning wont work for me I know, but ill try the rubbing hands thing next time tho.
One thing I have never ever been able to do in an LD is talk. When I try to talk, my real
mouth talks and it always always wakes me right up. So all these years I have remained
completely silent in my lds. Maybe this is what the author means by getting too
caught up….maybe talking can be getting too caught up as well.

Does anyone know anything about talking in an LD??

I've been having the same problem. I've found that thinking about staying calm and not getting too excited right away when you become lucid is very helpful. Another thing I've been trying is going outside. Whenever I'm indoors in a lucid dream everything looks very strange, kinda like an acid trip, and it can sometimes be very intense to the point that I can't deal with it. But when I go outside everything immedietly becomes more vivid and clear.

Originally Posted by supreme

Does anyone know anything about talking in an LD??

I don't know very much about it but a few nights ago I saw my dad in a LD and I said "good moring." His response was just jibberish, something like "hukatuchalkgindera. astamacanaranachan." I just started cracking up when this happened.