Awakening when Dream Spinning

[kingofhypocrites]

In the past I have had good success with dreaming spinning... I would spin and call out a place and then appear there. Lately every time I close my eyes to dream spin I end up waking up. It basically just goes black, nothing happens, then I'm awake. Has anyone experienced this?

[nina]

Yes. Actually I see this happening to most people. I honestly don't know why something like dream spinning only works the first few times you try it. I won't use it anymore because it wakes me up every time.

[kingofhypocrites]

Yes. Actually I see this happening to most people. I honestly don't know why something like dream spinning only works the first few times you try it. I won't use it anymore because it wakes me up every time. Thanks. Do you use a different method now for changing your dream scene, moving to a new location, etc.?

[nina]

Thanks. Do you use a different method now for changing your dream scene, moving to a new location, etc.? Yes I use a different technique but I'm not sure if it works for anyone else nor have I really seen it discussed on the forum so I can't really recommend it. Basically I sort of close my eyes, not all the way, just so that I'm squinting and can not really see anything other than a blur (I avoid closing my eyes completely because this usually lands me in "the void" of blackness). Then as I'm squinting I think to myself what I want the dreamscape to be...and when I open my eyes up again, I will usually find myself in the proper setting. It's more of a passive sort of approach...but in general I've found passive attempts at dream control to work better than more direct attempts, which will sometimes fail when they are in direct opposition to your subconscious. Other methods I've used for changing the dreamscape: flying at incredibly fast speeds for a short amount of time...basically it's like accelerating linearly until you are moving at the speed of light...and when I stop, I am in a new dreamscape. Also opening doors to new dreamscapes sometimes works. (if you are in a place where there are doors)

[louie54]

Yeah I used dream spinning before but to stablize. After taking a long break from lucid dreaming and getting back into it, when ever I would try spinning, a bright light would appear all around me and I would wake up. I stabilize now by focusing on an object now like a tree, I just need to learn how to teleport.

[acidlife]

Teleportation by spinning has never worked for me. I'm definitly gonne try your eye technique Aquanina.

[The Cusp]

Everything requires your attention to exist in dreams. That includes your surroundings. Spinning is too disorienting, you are unable to focus on your surroundings and they cease to exist. The dream becomes too unstable as a result and you wake up. It's the feeling of intense movement from spinning that you're after. There are plenty of better ways to get that feeling and still keep focus on your surroundings.

[Mea]

There are apparently different ways and veiws with spinning. Have any of you done physical spinning? Or gazing, which tends to shift the vision into other ways of seeing things? To spin physically, it is disorienting, and it does take the focus off the surroundings...but it can be used to go further...into some areas that one may not go into. It is the same with the eye squinting, which is like gazing, in a way... What I have found, is that shifting the vision, opens up other areas and places, that may not be noticed with the regular vision. Physically, or non. And noticing how the physical senses are, to really notice them, it can show what is beyond them. And in dreams, to do that, to notice how the non physical senses are, it can go beyond them too. So for me, if something wakes me physically, then instead of using it to get a result, I would focus only on that movement, or sense...to find out what it is actually doing. Like cusp mentioned, the feeling of intense movement...what does it feel like, look like, smell like, taste like...and yes, movement can even have a taste...but the senses seem to move in different ways, when they are non physical.

[WarriorTiger]

Has anyone considered blinking? I don't mean that you close your eyes and then when you open them the world is changed, though that is a good idea too. I am wondering if anyone teleports around the dreamscape in the blink of an eye. I often do this and am looking for new ways to change the dreamscape because lately when I blink, I either lose lucidity, or I end up slipping into a different dream. I know this seems like the point, where I change the dreamscape and the dream changed, but I would like to just change the dreamscape, not the dream.

[Bobblehat]

I did some research on blinking myself, WarriorTiger. A few people have reported waking when they blink. It's something I want to try myself. I also want to look up and fly up until I can only see the sky, then float back down and tell myself I'll land at the location I want to be. I'm also thinking of "reverse flying", that is, I'd sink into the ground and tell myself when I rise from the ground I'll be at a new location. I think the lack of visual stimulation from going under the ground (although maybe I'll find underground places and worlds?) may wake me, but once again, I won't know until I get the chance to try in a lucid.

[Cochise]

As a child i used blinking for exiting a dream when it would get too scary for me but sometimes the dream was so overwhelming that the technique would not work... I remember one dream when i was about 5 years old where i was lost in a wal mart and searching for my parents, i realized quick this was a dream, so i just blinked and woke up... i think my first time using this echnique was by accident when i was in my craddle for a nap (maybe 2-3 years old, i gotta ask my parent until what age i would do naps in this room. In my dream i saw that purple mcdonald's character watching me and telling me that burger bandit was around... i got so scared i closed my eyes cause i had a frightening and distorted image of burger bandit in my head and i didnt want it to appear in front of me (sort of burger bandit with sharp teeth and green slime comming out of its mouth)