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      A war in heaven dream? Interpretation please!

      A few weeks ago I had this dream, and I was an angel in heaven, I remember being inside a huge white and golden palace made of marble with lots of hallways and lots of random stairs just going up, then down again, and not that I needed them I had wings so I could just float, I was surrounded by many other angels, but these angels were all the people I know and have seen in my life, even random strangers who pass me on the street and the people I’ve known but not really thought anything of them... I went down this hallway then I saw a golden door and I opened it out of curiosity and then a man come towards me, he had long blonde hair and golden wings and a golden toga around him and he looked beautiful, But he was chatting to a few other angels and I heard them call him “Lucifer” … but then he told me that he was planning on taking over heaven and he asked me to go and tell all of the other angels to follow him, and I said “okay” for some reason but when I went into the hall there was a group of angels chatting and I was stood there alone and I didn’t want to tell them to follow him, I wasn't confident enough, and I was afraid they wouldn’t hear me... But then war broke out and the angels I didn’t tell still decided to turn bad and we fell...

      It's just really strange and I'm a catholic, I was wondering If maybe that’s the reason I'm here and I fell from heaven? I wouldn't be wondering this if it wasn’t to ironic that I’m really quiet and I’ve all ways feared talking to people in case they didn't hear me. :S
      I'm not really that religious to be honest I was only baptised, but I will totally accept comments from people of another religion, As long as they could understand the story and perhaps tell me why I had this dream it would be so helpful. (I beg you not to criticise me in any way though)

      Thank you my friends
      It would mean a lot

      ~Shania
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      Unless you really believe it was a message from god I'd think it was just another awesome dream.

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      I think there could be many reasons. You said you were just baptised, maybe that caused your subconcious to dream of something Bible related? Maybe you were thinking about Lucifer in waking life and it carried on in your dream. It also could have been random chance. There could have been many reasons you had this dream.
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      Quote Originally Posted by dutchraptor View Post
      Unless you really believe it was a message from god I'd think it was just another awesome dream.
      No idea, could be either - could be both. thanks anyway

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      Quote Originally Posted by DreamGuy View Post
      I think there could be many reasons. You said you were just baptised, maybe that caused your subconcious to dream of something Bible related? Maybe you were thinking about Lucifer in waking life and it carried on in your dream. It also could have been random chance. There could have been many reasons you had this dream.

      Yes may be you're right... I didn't say I was "just" baptised, I said I was "only" baptised... I was baptised when I was a baby and that's probably the only religious thing I've ever done, I don't attend church or read the bible, but I do believe in and pray to God and went to a catholic school (not like its any different from an ordinary school) Maybe this is my subconsciousness sending me messages...
      Thank you for your help

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      Sometimes our mind connects thoughts to imagery in nifty ways. Being a quiet person and connecting that to visions of angels as quiet observers and helpers may be a natural thought process.

      It's clear it affected you because you wrote it here. I know you've been thinking about the dream since. I wonder, were you thinking about any religious or spiritual topic weeks ago when you had the dream? It could influence your thoughts.

      Sometimes a dream is just a dream, and a cake is just a cake. Reply and let us know if you remember what your thoughts were like several weeks ago when you had the dream, and how you have felt about it since.

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      Quote Originally Posted by melanieb View Post
      Sometimes our mind connects thoughts to imagery in nifty ways. Being a quiet person and connecting that to visions of angels as quiet observers and helpers may be a natural thought process.

      It's clear it affected you because you wrote it here. I know you've been thinking about the dream since. I wonder, were you thinking about any religious or spiritual topic weeks ago when you had the dream? It could influence your thoughts.

      Sometimes a dream is just a dream, and a cake is just a cake. Reply and let us know if you remember what your thoughts were like several weeks ago when you had the dream, and how you have felt about it since.
      Yeah well I guess I always have a lot on my mind, But God and spiritual matters are on my mind most often, I said I'm not religious as in a church goer but I do think of God on a regular bases in a lot the things I do, and that also muddled with other things that are important to me like I was studying for my exams a few weeks ago and I have passed all of them now... But other than that I can't exactly recall what else was on my mind a few weeks ago...

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      One might say the war in heaven represented a spiritual conflict within yourself and since you are the only one who can solve that dilemma no one else can speak up for you or any of the other dream characters (as manifestations of your own spirituality and personality) and if this isn't resolved you will find yourself in a very unhappy place.


      You claim not to be particularly religious but you think about spirituality often. Perhaps it's time to take it to the next level and find some inner peace.

      I would bet your local church or priest could give you proper guidance.

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      Quote Originally Posted by melanieb View Post
      One might say the war in heaven represented a spiritual conflict within yourself and since you are the only one who can solve that dilemma no one else can speak up for you or any of the other dream characters (as manifestations of your own spirituality and personality) and if this isn't resolved you will find yourself in a very unhappy place.


      You claim not to be particularly religious but you think about spirituality often. Perhaps it's time to take it to the next level and find some inner peace.

      I would bet your local church or priest could give you proper guidance.

      Yes I guess so... but I am spiritual I actually discussed religion a lot with the teachers at my catholic school, and they have given me a lot of spiritual guidance, I would always lead the prayers in class and when I went to church with the school (which was essential) I sometimes said the readings, but me and my family (personally) don't go to church (I mean when we don't have to, we wouldn't choose to) so I don't necessarily look at that as a bad thing after all I have always believed that a house is no different from a church because God can still hear me at home.
      But I totally understand I know a priest who is close to my family, I could discuss this with him perhaps...
      Thank you for all your help

      Shania~

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      You did not fall from heaven if you believe in the Christian scriptures nor were you ever an angel to begin with. The bible is very clear that angles were created before humans. Humans and angels in The Bible are two seperate created individuals that can not incarnate as each other. Revelation in the Bible speaks that Lucifer rebelled out of pride to be higher than God (he became too arrogent thinking he can excel himself above Yahweh being he was one of the highest and beautiful angels created being a "Cherub" angelic being) and convienced a third of the angelic host (called the dragon whoms tail sweeps a third of the stars from heaven in Revelation 12:4) are forever banished from heaven. They have (or will be depending on what you believe in this area) been thrown down to earth. However not in human form but still in spirit form and they will face a final judgement after the tribulation period.

      This is from the Christian site "GotQuestions:"

      Question: "Do we become angels after we die?"

      Answer: Angels are beings created by God (Colossians 1:15-17) and are entirely different from humans. They are God’s special agents to carry out His plan and to minister to the followers of Christ (Hebrews 1:13-14). There is no indication that angels were formerly humans or anything else—they were created as angels. Angels have no need of, and cannot experience, the redemption that Christ came to provide for the human race. First Peter 1:12 describes their desire to look into the Gospel, but it is not for them to experience. Had they been formerly humans, the concept of salvation would not be a mystery to them, having experienced it themselves. Yes, they rejoice when a sinner turns to Christ (Luke 15:10), but salvation in Christ is not for them.

      Are Demons Fallen Angels?

      "Answer: When exactly God created angels is open for debate, but what is known for sure is that God created everything good because God, in His holiness, cannot create something sinful. So when Satan, who was once the angel Lucifer, rebelled against God and fell from heaven (Isaiah 14, Ezekiel 28), one third of the angelic host joined his insurrection (Revelation 12:3-4, 9). There is no doubt these fallen angels are now known as the demons.

      We know that hell was prepared for the devil and his angels, according to Matthew 25:41: “Then He will say to those on His left, ‘Depart from me, you who are cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels.’” Jesus, by using the possessive word his makes it clear that these angels belong to Satan. Revelation 12:7-9 describes an end-times angelic battle between Michael and "his angels" and the devil and "his angels." From these and similar verses, it is clear that demons and fallen angels are synonymous."

      Now I'm not a Christian...but Ive studied almost all religions and had my dips in to them. Maybe you heard a sermon on the "end times" or the fall of Lucifer/Satan and it somehow got seeped into your dream. However in Christian thelogy there's nothing written about angels becoming human-beings.
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      Here's another one. All indications from the Christian Scriptures indicate that a fallen angel (demon) NEVER becomes a human-being. In fact no angel whether good or bad (fallen) will ever be a human and a human will never be an angel. Humans and angels are two seperate groups that can not combind. The bible doesnt say fallen angels became incarnated into humans. It states cleary they remained in spirt formed called "unclean spirits" or "fallen spirits" and are temporary banished to earth where they will be judged, and sentenced to the Lake of Fire on judgement day. Okay here is another resource:

      Question: "What does the Bible say about demons?"

      Answer: Revelation 12:9 is the clearest scripture on the identity of demons, “The great dragon was hurled down—that ancient serpent called the devil, or Satan, who leads the whole world astray. He was hurled to the earth, and his angels with him.” Satan’s fall from heaven is symbolically described in Isaiah 14:12-15 and Ezekiel 28:12-15. Revelation 12:4 seems to indicate that Satan took one-third of the angels with him when he sinned. Jude 6 mentions angels who sinned. The Bible indicates that the demons are fallen angels who, along with Satan, rebelled against God.

      Satan and his demons now look to destroy and deceive all those who follow and worship God (1 Peter 5:8; 2 Corinthians 11:14-15). The demons are described as evil spirits (Matthew 10:1), unclean spirits (Mark 1:27), and angels of Satan (Revelation 12:9). Satan and his demons deceive the world (2 Corinthians 4:4), attack Christians (2 Corinthians 12:7; 1 Peter 5:8), and combat the holy angels (Revelation 12:4-9). Demons are spiritual beings, but they can appear in different spiritual forms to deceive (2 Corinthians 11:14-15). The demons/fallen angels are enemies of God, but they are defeated enemies. Greater is He who is in us, than those who are in the world (1 John 4:4).
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      Quote Originally Posted by ace55 View Post
      You did not fall from heaven if you believe in the Christian scriptures nor were you ever an angel to begin with. The bible is very clear that angles were created before humans. Humans and angels in The Bible are two seperate created individuals that can not incarnate as each other. Revelation in the Bible speaks that Lucifer rebelled out of pride to be higher than God (he became too arrogent thinking he can excel himself above Yahweh being he was one of the highest and beautiful angels created being a "Cherub" angelic being) and convienced a third of the angelic host (called the dragon whoms tail sweeps a third of the stars from heaven in Revelation 12:4) are forever banished from heaven. They have (or will be depending on what you believe in this area) been thrown down to earth. However not in human form but still in spirit form and they will face a final judgement after the tribulation period.

      This is from the Christian site "GotQuestions:"

      Question: "Do we become angels after we die?"

      Answer: Angels are beings created by God (Colossians 1:15-17) and are entirely different from humans. They are God’s special agents to carry out His plan and to minister to the followers of Christ (Hebrews 1:13-14). There is no indication that angels were formerly humans or anything else—they were created as angels. Angels have no need of, and cannot experience, the redemption that Christ came to provide for the human race. First Peter 1:12 describes their desire to look into the Gospel, but it is not for them to experience. Had they been formerly humans, the concept of salvation would not be a mystery to them, having experienced it themselves. Yes, they rejoice when a sinner turns to Christ (Luke 15:10), but salvation in Christ is not for them.

      Are Demons Fallen Angels?

      "Answer: When exactly God created angels is open for debate, but what is known for sure is that God created everything good because God, in His holiness, cannot create something sinful. So when Satan, who was once the angel Lucifer, rebelled against God and fell from heaven (Isaiah 14, Ezekiel 28), one third of the angelic host joined his insurrection (Revelation 12:3-4, 9). There is no doubt these fallen angels are now known as the demons.

      We know that hell was prepared for the devil and his angels, according to Matthew 25:41: “Then He will say to those on His left, ‘Depart from me, you who are cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels.’” Jesus, by using the possessive word his makes it clear that these angels belong to Satan. Revelation 12:7-9 describes an end-times angelic battle between Michael and "his angels" and the devil and "his angels." From these and similar verses, it is clear that demons and fallen angels are synonymous."

      Now I'm not a Christian...but Ive studied almost all religions and had my dips in to them. Maybe you heard a sermon on the "end times" or the fall of Lucifer/Satan and it somehow got seeped into your dream. However in Christian thelogy there's nothing written about angels becoming human-beings.
      Yes I know this, I didn't say that I believed I was an angel but I was in the dream, maybe I was taking the place as someone else in this which represented "An" angel, but in order for this dream to be interpreted you must understand that I "was an angel in my dream" and this is what happened ...et coetera
      But Like I said before, I don't really read the bible much but because of studying at school I also know this, thanks for the history but it wasn't an interpretation, however It would have been helpful if I didn't know that... Thank you anyway you have obviously put a lot of effort into your reply by gathering biblical evidence to tell me the history of what an angel is and what the bible said.
      Last edited by visibleshadows; 07-01-2012 at 05:53 PM.

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