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      Jung Getting At Me

      I mention Jung because I found it funny that I was reading his book, which I had not touched in months, modern man in search of a soul right before going to sleep last night which turned into this incredibly vivid and dramatic dream and then lead me here; I had to share and put it down somewhere.

      It starts off with being on a run way preparing for a flight with several family members, certain older members on my mothers side, with the intention of taking a holiday to the tropics, I remember the aircraft as being like a mid sized commercial people carrier with two propellers on each wing but for some reason they were wooden on what was a very modern plane. On entering the plane the pilot was sitting there in the seats right at the entrance welcoming and talking to people, very friendly, I go to take my seat which is right next to him, gesture to handshake and end up in a very friendly hands clasped arm wrestling position, very chummy like. Then I notice sitting in between myself and the pilot is an old friend of mine, although he resembles Walter White Jr. (breaking bad) with a disability (cerebral palsy) but is also deaf, the pilot is trying to communicate with him but to no avail.

      Most take their seats, my mother and uncle in law are there, the ones I am originally taking the trip with and my friend (who is 'normal' now) and I are talking to my uncle about how we are going to get up very early each morning to play golf (I would love a golf holiday, golf addict recently) and annoy the rest of the family doing so each day, in the house we will be staying at. The plane inside by the way is fairly large with long rows of seats, like a commercial jet and then suddenly this group of teenage school girls comes flowing in filling up a couple of the rows in front of me, I am very annoyed by this and the idea of having to put up with them throughout the flight. Then I go to discuss something with my old friend next to me, I think my annoyance and notice now I am next to this young very stunning very light blonde headed girl who is very annoyed at me trying to talk to her who completely shuns me and notice my old friend is now a row ahead of me on the other side of the plane; I figure at this point I am just going to try and sleep through the flight and feel quite relaxed.

      The plane takes off quite smoothly and high but into what looks like a bit of a head wind, now this is the kind of weird part, I know in my mind the plane is up in the air and fine but the dream is then sort of fragmenting in frames and the plane is back near the ground, it is in the air but really struggling to get up and heading towards trees, going through trees, looking like crashing but this does not bother me because I know the plane is actually higher up in the air fine. Then all of a sudden I am right up in the cockpit, which is not sealed off and wide open to the rest of the plane, and we are over the ocean flying into this ridiculously strong head wind which is pushing us down and making it difficult to keep the plane up, but the pilot seems confident and I am not fussed by this still planning on sleeping through it all and waking up at the destination, but this time when I try to relax and sleep in the dream it is more difficult and I am quite distracted and annoyed at the sounds around me. The rest of the passengers are quite worried at this point, one becomes a little hysterical but I look back wondering what there is to fear and that these people should chill, to some extent I realise my fear is not going to change what may happen so why bother worrying?

      The head wind is just too much at this point and we are going down into the ocean, the pilot actually manages to land this quite smoothly and gently to my surprise but before I know it the nose/cockpit is sinking down and filling with water with the rest of the plane behind it. I look to these doors or windows on the side of the cockpit thinking of escape but feel it is futile and why bother, the water is coming in too quickly so then I am drowning, I can even hear the others next to me gasping/gurgling/drowning; I seem to not quite be as overwhelmed as them but end up having to succumb to the inevitability of my death. Of course at this point I wake up in a mild state of anxiety, was not too bad given the circumstances.

      As a bit of background here I have had Myalgic Encephalomyelitis/Chronic Fatigue Syndrome for over 10 years, even though at this point I have nearly got my health back, am participating socially and able to exercise quite well the isolation and physical breakdown for many years did create some social anxiety, it has been quite a task reconditioning myself, physically and mentally which is still going on. I still have ups and downs and do not feel I have control over my life still, or at least in much of the ways I would like; I realise few probably have control over their lives.

      I do see many themes here and things I recognise, or that I think I recognise but as I understand our dreams happen for a reason which is generally not obvious to the person having them.

      Curious to hear others thoughts, hope this was not too much detail/rambling

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      I feel uncertain about this dream but since I read it carefully I might as well throw out a few remarks which may be of some help.

      If I were you I would try to figure out what the friend in the dream represents, perhaps by describing his characteristics, and also if there are certain emotions associated with him. That would give you an idea of what part of yourself sits between you and the pilot, incommunicable; this could be key information to unlock the dream, at least a entrance into an understanding of it.

      In the next scene you are talking with you uncle about playing golf early in the morning. Note that in this scene your friend is not disabled. Such connections I believe is important. For instance, here it could mean that some part of you (which you are able to identify) that is disabled due to... I don't know, neglect perhaps, gets healthy with the idea of physical activity with people you enjoy.

      Then there's yet another energy flowing into this inner room, represented by the young girls. They are disturbing your good moment with your uncle. They could -- but this is my association only -- represent sexuality, or "young lust", and that is disturbing because while a nice chat with your uncle is manageable, this lust may not be, so instead of curiosity there is annoyance. Things would be much easier if it weren't there.

      This energy floats together into one stunning blonde, but you do not connect, and now something again happens with your friend: He becomes distant for you. So there is something important in your inner self you lose contact with when you are unable to connect with this part of your self, which the young woman may represent (sexuality, intimacy, and so forth). So this friend of yours is key to this riddle.

      Your way of handling this situation is to go to sleep. That is not a good way to deal with conflicts, of course. Do you recognize this from your real life -- you prefer to close your eyes and pretend it isn't there rather than face it? If so this dream is telling you, I think, that that is somewhat catastrophic because the dream ends in a catastrophe while you are trying to sleep, remain unconscious of what is going on. (The "catastrophe" is symbolically speaking in the context of this puzzle, of course I'm not suggesting a catastrophe literally.)

      On this trip the wind is blowing against you, very hard. This is the wind of the gods who is trying to keep you from going this way. You are going against the will of the (inner) powers. At least that is how I've interpreted a dream in my mind successfully a quite a while back, where there were a similar content with the head wind: "No, you should not go this way, it is against the nature of your development," if you will. Of course, I'm not saying that that is a fact, I'm only sharing my associations to the imagery.

      People around you are afraid, even hysterical, but you remain calm. There is different ways of interpreting this, but being scared under these conditions is not irrational -- perhaps being calm and trying to sleep is...? This could mean that you are not taking the situation the dream is elaborating on seriously enough?

      So there seems to be a few circumstances that lead up to the bitter ending, and I would focus on those, and perhaps the next trip is a different one.
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      Thanks for your extensive reply.

      Your emphasis on the friend is also good insight and something I overlooked myself, clearly this is an important aspect of the dream. Maybe the friend/peer almost has a similar representation as when the aircraft is fragmenting (my mind thinking it is up in the air and fine when in reality it is struggling), my friend seems fine and close at first but in reality he is struggling, disabled and deaf, not able to comprehend then ends up detached at a distance. Seems likely this represents the difference in my mind, thinking I am ok, over the practical reality of my social life and loss of contact with peers, due to my health issues over the years; in reality I struggle daily with my loss of a normal social life.

      I am not sure the girl represents sexuality, maybe more so something beautiful and innocent within myself that is denying and belittling me subconsciously, something I am also uncomfortable and agitated over easily; a beauty in myself I abuse.

      Yes wanting to go to sleep here and simply expecting to wake at the end of a perfectly smooth trip but meeting many conflicts really sums this up, I really want to take a trip like this but in reality it is still not possible and there is work to be done. I am not sure it is catastrophic though, the pilot was calm under horrendous conditions and landed a commercial plane on the ocean smoothly, I simply succumbed to being drowned: I succumb for the time being that I am drowning somewhat in my current living/life situation by all this internal conflict.

      My nonchalant attitude in this dream, while the average person is scared I take as a positive as well, this calmness seems to me a small triumph over a history of much anxiety, this was clear to me at the time but you may be right as well, it could also be that I am still not taking clear conflicts serious enough. But certainly I am not the type to avoid anything, I am very proactive about personal growth and change; to some extent it has been my day to day life for sometime.

      Thanks for your mind/words to bounce off, that seems to have been very productive

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      Thank your for your feedback, it is much appreciated.

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