IRC Chat Logs...

**KingYoshi** · 05-28-2011 06:53 AM

As you know, the lessons for the class are posted in the forums. These IRC chat sessions are basically just lucid dreaming discussions. You can ask me questions or just simply join us in talking about lucid dreaming. We had a lot of fun and I hope some more of you will come join us next Friday at 11:00pm EST (US). GMT -5. Here is what went down...

Friday May 27th at 11:00pm EST (US). GMT -5.

Welcome to the first Dream Control+ chat session

* Now talking in #DVA
* Topic is 'Welcome to the DreamViews Academy - Dream Control +'
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<@KingYoshi> welcome to the first Dream Control+ chat session

<tblanco> tk
<&Karlitaki> woot

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<@KingYoshi> oh yeah! ....
<skarr> im back
<skarr> lol
<@KingYoshi> welcome back skarr
<skarr> thx
<@KingYoshi> so, I don't really have a plan for this

...I guess I'll just go over a few things and ask some questions and whatnot
<tblanco> right on
<@KingYoshi> So, first off I'll ask, how is everyone's lucid dreaming coming along?
<skarr> So we gonna get this on?

<skarr> rofl that was epic
<tblanco> i had a great april, dead may, had an epic one last night
<skarr> I havent had an LD yet.
<skarr> for awhile tho
<&Karlitaki> im trying like 2 days to WILD but it doesnt work =D
<skarr> WILD happen to me by accident.
<skarr> well the beginning of it tho
<tblanco> wild is super frustrating
<@KingYoshi> Ah, I see. My May has been pretty dead as well
<tblanco> but i did get the deild last night/this morning
<@KingYoshi> nice tb
<skarr> DILDs are doing pretty good for me.
<skarr> But not that much.
<tblanco> totally after i ready your lesson
<tblanco> *read
<skarr> I keep forgetting to do RCs
<@KingYoshi> ah, sweet

<&Karlitaki> thats how i got my first LD too tblanco

<&Karlitaki> my 1st didl
<&Karlitaki> DILD*
<tblanco> no, deild
<tblanco> that's when you wake up out of an LD then just hold still and go back in
<&Karlitaki> well i read yoshis tut too thats how i got it.
<@KingYoshi> i love DEILD...its really easy if you catch it right
<&Karlitaki> hmm
<tblanco> it was like, oh shit here i go, wait, just stay here
<skarr> Pretty cool when WILDs happen to you by accident
<tblanco> and i'm back
<@KingYoshi> yeah, skarr...sleep paralysis tends to just randomly set in from time to time
<skarr> it happen in the morning tho
<@KingYoshi> so tb, you realized you were waking up from the dream...or?
<tblanco> i was hanging out with my friend
<tblanco> and he wasn't wearing pants
<skarr> rofl
<tblanco> and he was freaking out about it
<@KingYoshi> lol
<skarr> hate dreams like those
<tblanco> so i was going to imagine him some pants
<tblanco> so i closed my eyes and will'd some pants
<skarr> nice
<tblanco> and i couldn't open them
<skarr> what kind of pants?
<tblanco> khaki cargo shorts
<skarr> oh
<tblanco> tan
<tblanco> it's summer in texas
<skarr>

<tblanco> So i lost the dream when i closed my eyes
<&Karlitaki> :S
<skarr> I've been to Texas before, The weather there is weird
<tblanco> and i was in my sleeping body
<tblanco> then i thought of deild
<tblanco> held still and breathed
<@KingYoshi> ah, nice
<tblanco> and i was back in and he had pants and everything was back to normal
<skarr> ehh
<skarr> How does MILD work?
<@KingYoshi> there are several variations of MILD...most involve some sort of mantra
<tblanco> i read that book
<tblanco> the whole mild is such an involved process
<@KingYoshi> like, telling yourself, "I will lucid dream tonight, I will lucid dream tonight" as you are going to sleep
<skarr> I do that but it never works...
<@KingYoshi> yeah, MILD falls under the category of DILD
<tblanco> Matte87 told me to change it to "i am dreaming"
<tblanco> so that it's present tense
<@KingYoshi> yeah, thats a good suggestion
<skarr> I have a question
<@KingYoshi> shoot
<skarr> Do some apps on phones work for LDing?
<skarr> Like some reality checkers, etc
<skarr> reminds u to do a reality check in the day if your lazy, etc
<@KingYoshi> sure
<skarr> or forget to
<@KingYoshi> that would help remind you to perform your RCs
<skarr> thats like a LD aid right?
<@KingYoshi> yeah, no app will make you lucid, but they could definitely assist you in the process
<skarr> Reality Checker | AppBrain Android Market
<skarr> example
<skarr> says it trains your brain
<&Karlitaki> My Question: does music while sleeping could help to LD if u thinking about the artist/singer/etc ?
<skarr> u talking about binarual beats?
<@KingYoshi> Karl, I have actually used music to directly cause me to LD
<@KingYoshi> I'll tell you what I did...
<&Karlitaki> any music
<&Karlitaki> hmm ok
<@KingYoshi> There was a guy on this site who had made his own song...
<@KingYoshi> it was a remake of a beetles song i think
<@KingYoshi> anyway...
<@KingYoshi> I put it on repeat and turned the volume on low, but I could still hear it
<@KingYoshi> I then fell asleep and heard the song in my dream
<&Karlitaki> :O
<skarr> yea songs tend to do that
<@KingYoshi> i actually heard it in a few dreams, but the third night, I realized it and performed a RC
<skarr> think thats what caused my nightmare the other night
<@KingYoshi> and became lucid from the song
<&Karlitaki> how u did reality check from that song?
<skarr> cause I heard a similar tone from the song my bro left on the PC
<&Karlitaki> what u though while dreamin
<@KingYoshi> basically, just reality check every time you hear the song
<@KingYoshi> if you hear it in your dream, you will do the same
<skarr> is that what REMDreamer does?
<&Karlitaki> thats a good way too ;D
<@KingYoshi> i would suggest using a song you haven't heard but a few times though
<&Karlitaki> ok =D
<@KingYoshi> the one I used was actually about lucid dreaming though
<&Karlitaki> i might try this
<@KingYoshi> it went like "We all lived in the land of lucid dreams, land of lucid dreams, land of lucid dreams"
<&Karlitaki> ohhhhhh
<skarr> What if the song is short?
<skarr> like 2mins long
<&Karlitaki> in that moment i would LD for sure
<@KingYoshi> thats fine skarr, just put it on repeat
<skarr> YouTube - ‪Sum 41 - Over My Head (Better Off Dead) [with lyrics]‬&rlm;
<skarr> Too much huh>
<skarr> ?
<@KingYoshi> yeah Karl, thats the part i kept hearing
<skarr> asking for an example

<@KingYoshi> LDing this way is called an EILD
<skarr> EILD?
<@KingYoshi> Externally Induced Lucid Dream
<&Karlitaki> ooh u have 1

<skarr> What does externally mean?
<tblanco> outside
<skarr> oh
<@KingYoshi> yeah, tb nailed it
<skarr> KingYoshi
<@KingYoshi> basically, its where you use something around you in waking life to induce the dream
<skarr> I have a question
<@KingYoshi> shoot
<skarr> If you ever use the REMdreamer mask do you think it will work?
<skarr> Thats like lucid aids or something eh?
<@KingYoshi> I haven't ever used it, but it also is an EILD technique...
<skarr> oh
<skarr> never knew that
<@KingYoshi> it flashes light into your eyelids that you recognize and become lucid from
<skarr> Can you also do RCs also?
<@KingYoshi> you see the light flashes in the dream
<skarr> Or is that the RC its self
<tblanco> i have a question
<tblanco> about ada
<@KingYoshi> well, you will likely notice the light and then perform the RC to confirm you are dreaming
<@KingYoshi> go ahead tb
<skarr> That sounds nice KY
<tblanco> hmm
<tblanco> trying to figure out how to put it
<skarr> ada?
<tblanco> am i just noticing and not thinking
<tblanco> I've been trying to do mind powers around the room
<tblanco> and putting stories to the objects i see
<skarr> in LD?
<tblanco> like thinking of the history
<tblanco> and thinking of the date
<tblanco> and what's going on
<tblanco> is it pretty much a what works for me
<tblanco> stay grounded in reality in the moment?
<@KingYoshi> sure, but you really don't have to put history to things for ADA...its more about recognizing everything in your current environment using all of your senses
<tblanco> yeah, i do some of that
<@KingYoshi> basiaclly, learning what it feels like to be awake, as opposed to being asleep
<tblanco> shit be hard to maintatin
<@KingYoshi> yeah, its difficult...especially at first
<skarr> So I have a question
<@KingYoshi> I definitely suggest just performing it in scattered sessions when you first start practicing it
<@KingYoshi> go ahead skarr
<skarr> Has anyone ever woke up after a dream and felt like your still dreaming but your awake?
<skarr> You felt like you were dreaming the whole day, etc
<skarr> But you werent.
<skarr> Is that some kind of side effect left from the dream?
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<@KingYoshi> maybe for a few moments after I woke up
<skarr> Hmmm, Weird
<@KingYoshi> hello legend
<&Karlitaki> skarr i woke up and i had to go to work but somehow i was happy after LD and i was asking my self if thats like dream
<skarr> It felt like I was dreaming the whole entire day
<legendarymidget> usually people call me midget but ok
<tblanco> brb
<skarr> But I wasnt
<&Karlitaki> k tb
<legendarymidget> I'm fine with it
<legendarymidget>

<@KingYoshi>

<&Karlitaki> hello midge
<&Karlitaki> t
<legendarymidget> hey
<&Karlitaki> My other question: is it difficult to LD while watching a movie and fall asleep? how to go LD if ur mind is in the Movie?
<skarr> Doesnt that interfere with your sleeping tho?
<@KingYoshi> i am always watching something as I fall asleep Karl...and it doesn't stop me from LDing
<tblanco> i hear what you are saying Yoshi
<skarr> unless your a deep sleeper
<tblanco> about emperical grounding
<@KingYoshi> actually, movies/tv can influence your dreams
<&Karlitaki> i allways have nice dreams after movie
<skarr> as well as anime eh?
<&Karlitaki> but not LD's

<skarr> KingYoshi
<skarr> You ever had a anime like dream?
<@KingYoshi> i have fell asleep and woke up after having a dream about some random thing...i then look at the tv and see that the show was what I was dreaming about
<skarr> with anime powers, etc
<@KingYoshi> yeah, skarr...I've had a few anime dreams
<skarr> nice
<legendarymidget> would the characters look like anime characters though?
<legendarymidget> like all cartoon?
<skarr> Mine do all the time
<skarr> they all look like from the anime
<&Karlitaki> lol

<skarr> some of them even speak english, lol
<skarr> thats the funny part
<@KingYoshi> i have had some that were completely animated, some that were live action, and some that were like a hybrid of the two
<legendarymidget> Damn, I wanna have an anime dream now...
<skarr>

<skarr> Which reminds me
<&Karlitaki> if u want then u will ;D
<skarr> I had a dream about Naruto Shippuden once
<skarr> I was at school
<@KingYoshi> I've turned my dream environment into a completely animated one
<skarr> And I turned into 4 tails Naruto
<skarr> Jinchuuriki
<skarr> and I used the taled beast bomb and blew up some stuff
<skarr> epic shit
<@KingYoshi> Nice! I've had several Bleach dreams, Persona dreams, and Air Gear dreams
<skarr> nice
<@KingYoshi> i've had a few others as well
<tblanco> Dragon Age Dreams
<legendarymidget> ooh persona. Nice

<legendarymidget> I'm playing the third one at the moment
<tblanco> Monday Night Combat Dreams
<skarr> The only reason why I transformed is because random DC tried picking a fight with me
<skarr> at some schoo
<skarr> lschool
<skarr> school
<skarr> damn it lol
<@KingYoshi> nice, I'm playing the 4th at the moment...just finished the third a month ago

<skarr> in a Lucid?
<&Karlitaki> yoshi how is dreaming lucid and being on PC? whats different .
<@KingYoshi> ah, sweet skarr
<legendarymidget> lol
<skarr> Wait KingYoshi im lost
<@KingYoshi> hmm, what do you mean exactly Karl?
<skarr> u talking about the 4th and third Hokage's?
<skarr> or something else
<legendarymidget> Persona
<@KingYoshi> nah, the 4th Persona
<legendarymidget> the game
<skarr> oh
<skarr> had me confused lol
<legendarymidget> You should play them
<legendarymidget> there really good
<&Karlitaki> did u ever dreamed that ur playing computer or surfing on pc
<skarr> They any good?
<skarr> oh
<&Karlitaki> viewing dreamviews etc
<skarr> What system?
<@KingYoshi> midget, in my Persona dream I actually had sex with Mitsuru and Yukari
<&Karlitaki> xDDD
<skarr> rofl nice
<@KingYoshi> and a social link activated while I was doing it, lol
<skarr> I switched bodies with Hinata once from Naruto. lol
<legendarymidget> @ yoshi wtf
<legendarymidget> Yukari's hotter than Mitsuru
<@KingYoshi> lol, yeah i started laughing in the dream
<legendarymidget> haha
<skarr> KingYoshi
<@KingYoshi> Mitsuru was my favorite
<skarr> u got that? lol
<@KingYoshi>

<legendarymidget> Nah Yukaris better
<legendarymidget> she's more cute
<legendarymidget>

<legendarymidget> Mitsuru is all like serious but I guess some people like that
<skarr> I want to have sex with Orihime from Bleach
<skarr> lol
<&Karlitaki> mitsuru is hot

<skarr> Hmm I need to watch the anime midget
<@KingYoshi> @karl...
<skarr> Anyways
<skarr> We talking about dream control KY?
<&Karlitaki> yes
<@KingYoshi> i have had dreams where i flew through the internet, but I really haven't had many where I was on the computer for some reason
<&Karlitaki> hmm
<legendarymidget> the class starts in 20 minutes right?
<@KingYoshi> @skarr...eh, just talking about anything really

<skarr>

<skarr> KingYoshi
<skarr> You should try this in a Lucid
<@KingYoshi> @midget, eh its been going for 40minutes now

<&Karlitaki> Next Question: whats good to eat drink like vitamins to Lucid dream? what can help
<legendarymidget> sorry. I'm late
<skarr> Try turning into 4th tailed Naruto
<skarr> if u seen the anime
<@KingYoshi> we are basically just talking about lucid dreaming..its not really classroom like

<legendarymidget> ok thats cool

<skarr> using dream control
<skarr> non lucid
<tblanco> yes
<&Karlitaki> @KingYoshi: what happens if u think in a dream that ur sleeping in bed?
<&Karlitaki> and LD
<tblanco> in waking life, i can experience all of my senses at once
<@KingYoshi> yeah, i think it will just take some practice...when I first started ADA, I had the same struggles everyone else seems to have
<tblanco> but in dreams i can only get maybe three at once,
<@KingYoshi> ah, isee
<tblanco> but i can shift
<skarr> hmmmm
<tblanco> like i feel the wind and see and hear
<tblanco> but then somehting has to drop out to smell or taste
<skarr> KingYoshi
<skarr> Question
<@KingYoshi> @Karl, it really depends on the dreamer, but if I start thinking about my waking body, I will start to feel it. my body will lock up in the same poition I'm sleeping in and I will wake generally wake up, if I don't stabilize and forget about my body
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<skarr> Have you ever gotten lucid while playing a video game?
<skarr> KY
<&Karlitaki> ohh thanks
<Soulnote> Like, playing it in a dream?
<@KingYoshi> oh yeah skarr...loads of time
<skarr> yes
<Soulnote> Actually, no, never
<legendarymidget> Hey soulnote
<skarr> Same with me

<skarr> Soul
<&Karlitaki> hi Soulnote
<@KingYoshi> most of the time, I will be playing a game...and then find myself within the game
<skarr> Nice
<Soulnote> When I play a game in a dream, i'm sort of half playing it and half in it
<@KingYoshi> and realize i'm dreaming that way
<@KingYoshi> hello Soulnote

<skarr> Have you ever jumped into the TV Yoshi?
<skarr> and into the game
<Soulnote> Hey everyone
<legendarymidget> sorry I stuffed up the timezone in the thread
<@KingYoshi> I've never really jumped into the t.v., but dor of just BECAME in the tv...ifg that makes any sense

<Soulnote> You did, it's 2PM AEST here, and people are here
<tblanco> this is some pretty inspirational stuff, i can't wait to try some of these questions
<Soulnote> ?
<legendarymidget> I just jumped on earlier and people were here
<skarr> KingYoshi
<legendarymidget> I swear I did it right though. sorry
<skarr> I often have Zelda dreams that seemed real
<Soulnote> Did this start an hour ago?
<tblanco> kingyoshi, you mean you turned into a box that families watched?
<legendarymidget> I've only been her for like 20 minutes
<legendarymidget> here
<skarr> lol tb
<@KingYoshi> @tb...your sense work like that in the dream because they are all created by your mind...non of those sense are
actually going on...you see what I mean. So, if you forget about a certain sense, it will simply disappear
<Soulnote> When I dream I'm in a game, it's like I'm in it and moving, but I see a game overlay, like the hud
<skarr> My last dream I was in hyrule field and I ran into the ranch and hide from Ganondorf
<skarr> looked realistic
<@KingYoshi> yeah, soul that happens a lot too...sometimes I will be the character and controlling the character at the same time
<@KingYoshi> which is pretty weird
<skarr> Im actually the character in the dreams
<Soulnote> Sounds like it
<skarr> KingYoshi
<skarr> Do you know the huts in OoT? In Kokiri Village?
<@KingYoshi> yes, indeed
<tblanco> YES! that's what i'm trying to get at. i think that may be a big part of ADA
<Soulnote> Hey Yoshi, about how long ago did this start?
<skarr> the tree houses
<tblanco> because in "the real world" everything is happening all the time
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<@KingYoshi> @soul, an hour ago

<skarr> I was in the Village and I saw a meteor
<Soulnote> ...
<skarr> And I tried to run into one of the houses
<legendarymidget> Meteor in Hyrule?
<Soulnote> well midget DID get the time wrong
<tblanco> Soulnote, an hour ago
<@KingYoshi> hell hash

<legendarymidget> soz
<skarr> rofl yea Midget

<@KingYoshi> hello*
<legendarymidget> hey hash
<Soulnote> It's ok...
<skarr> meteor was coming lol
<hashmash89> hey whatsup
<skarr> I was hiding in the house
<Soulnote> Hey mash
<skarr> And the house was too small for me to fit in rofl
<skarr> and I could pick it up
<legendarymidget> like a dolls house?
<&Karlitaki> what will happen if i sleep right now at my COMPUTER?
<skarr> it was all cardboard
<skarr> something like that
<skarr> they sudden changed when I tried to hide in it
<tblanco> @karlitaki you'll wake up with keyboard face
<@KingYoshi> lol
<&Karlitaki> xDD
<&Karlitaki> ill wake up in chat
<Soulnote> Has anyone had a dream like this?
<&Karlitaki> and start answering
<legendarymidget> once I woke up with an imprint of a PS controller on my face
<skarr> rofl
<@KingYoshi> indeed, you will Karl...seriously though, it depends..the odds of you having a chat based dream would increase, but it wouldn't guarantee anything
<Soulnote> You're moving around and you can feel everything but the picture remains the same...
<legendarymidget> from playing PS2
<skarr> nice what Ps2 games u like?
<Soulnote> it was like that for like 5 minutes, then the picture just changed to another still
<@KingYoshi> that sounds really interesting Soul...what do you mean by picture
<@KingYoshi> like a still image
<Soulnote> It's in my DJ
<legendarymidget> This was when I was a kid so like Crash Bandicoot lol
<skarr> rofl
<&Karlitaki> im so crazy that im goin to sleep at my pc now for like 30-40 mins
<legendarymidget> But I don't play that now
<Soulnote> It's like someone hit pause on a TV
<skarr> did u had to go to school with a mark on ur face? lol
<legendarymidget> Ok sweet dreams

<@KingYoshi> try it Karl...see if you have a PC dream

<legendarymidget> No I didn't walk to school like that lol
<&Karlitaki> k see ya in 30 mins
<skarr> lol
<legendarymidget> Can't wait to find out what happens
<@KingYoshi> i think i know what you mean, soul......were you moving around int he scene and doing things, but it was just a still image the whole time?
<tblanco> what is a pc dream? i think a dream about a chat room would clue you in pretty quick?
<Soulnote> K Yoshi, it's short and it's thif one
<Soulnote> #28 - Dream Journals - Dreamviews Lucid Dreaming Community & Resource
<tblanco> cause words and pictures change so much for me
<skarr> Im going to be pissed if Square Enix doesn't show Kingdom Hearts 3 this year
<@KingYoshi> will take a look, thanks

<legendarymidget> When you are dreaming you're on thepc
<Soulnote> Exact same picture
<Soulnote> KH3!!!
<@KingYoshi> @skarr...me too i need KH3 BAAAAD
<skarr> Same
<tblanco> weird
<Soulnote> On PS3!!!
<skarr> Im dying to play it
<tblanco> sometimes when i LD i can't figure out how to talk
<skarr> I played BBS
<Soulnote> Or at the very least, releas birth by sleep on PS3
<skarr> I need KH3 now
<skarr>

<legendarymidget> I played the first and second ones
<skarr> nice
<legendarymidget> none of the spinoff's though
<@KingYoshi> yeah, soul...i have had similar experiences like that
<legendarymidget> I'm not a fan of spinoffs
<Soulnote> Stupid huh?
<skarr> I want to play Kingdom Hearts 3D
<skarr> Kingdom hearts dream drop
<skarr> For 3DS
<Soulnote> I once faced a nobody samurai in a dream

<@KingYoshi> its likely a stability issue
<skarr> nice
<Soulnote> yeah, probably
<@KingYoshi> I have summoned my own keyblade in a dream before
<Soulnote> Awsome
<skarr> Shitman
<@KingYoshi> it was weed themed

<skarr> Epic
<skarr> rofl
<legendarymidget> did you fight things?
<@KingYoshi> i actually recreated it
<Soulnote> Next dream goal, defeat Sephiroth
<tblanco> I can't wait to try the eyedrops trick
<skarr> I tried to summon master sword in a non rem dream...
<Soulnote> 14 freakin' health bars...
<hashmash89> was i an hour late?
<@KingYoshi> hold, on and I'll get the pic of it
<Soulnote> or something like it
<skarr> Soul
<legendarymidget> @hashman
<skarr> try to summon ultimate blade
<@KingYoshi> yeah hash, its all good though
<legendarymidget> r u in /australia
<Soulnote> I will
<Soulnote> Is who in Australia?
<skarr> Fight that huge ass nobody
<legendarymidget> Hashman
<Soulnote> oh, nvm
<legendarymidget> ?
<skarr> OOOO
<skarr> Fight Xemnes
<@KingYoshi> i have had several KH themed lucids
<hashmash89> no not austraila, i just get confused by the timezones
<skarr> That would be badass
<skarr> Fighting Xemnes
<Soulnote> Sephiroth beats Xemnas 400 times
<legendarymidget> Sane
<skarr> Yea
<@KingYoshi> yeah, timezones are complicated
<tblanco> one of my goals is to dream of my pets and have a conversation with them
<@KingYoshi>

<skarr> I almost fought Sephiroth in a dream once
<@KingYoshi> i fuck them up a lot too
<legendarymidget> Kafka's better
<legendarymidget> kefka
<@KingYoshi> I fought sephiroth before
<Soulnote> I wanna design my keyblade then summon it
<tblanco> regarding timezones
<@KingYoshi> i didn't kill him though
<tblanco> you have to take daylight savings into account
<Soulnote> Looks like a bit o real life rubbed of in that fight
* &Karlitaki dreaming
<skarr> Fight Twilight Thorn
<Soulnote> Hey Karli
<legendarymidget> @KingYosi have you been to the moon?
<skarr> KingYoshi
<@KingYoshi> indeed I have midget
<skarr> Ahh
<skarr> Try making the moon fall
<legendarymidget> was it difficult?
<skarr> From majoras mask
<Soulnote> That reminds me, new advanced, Jupiter's red spot...so gonna fail
<legendarymidget> like WakingNomad says?
<Soulnote> maybe I can just open a door to it
<&Karlitaki> cant sleep my teeth hurts alot :XXXXXXXXXXXX
<@KingYoshi> yeah, actually I struggled getting to the moon...I only made it successfully a few times
<@KingYoshi> Kingdom Hearts Dream Pack... - Dream Journals - Dreamviews Lucid Dreaming Community & Resource my keyblade
<skarr> how difficult will it be to make the moon fall?
<tblanco> did you breathe?
<legendarymidget> Did you fly there?
<legendarymidget> I imagine that would be difficault
<skarr> Nice! KingYoshi
<Soulnote> Hey Yoshi, you're a DG, why do people in the LD task club get to see the next task before evryone else?
<hashmash89> lol awesome keyblade
<@KingYoshi> yeah midget...and most of the time the moon would be the size of a beach ball when I got there
<Soulnote> Can you answer Yoshi?
<@KingYoshi> @soul, do you mean in the "task of the month"
<@KingYoshi> like the one ninja does?
<Soulnote> Yeah, people who have completed it can go to the lucid task club, and they post the task there like a week before you post it on the actualt TOTM forum
<legendarymidget> So tha advanced one is something to do with Jupiter?
<Soulnote> Advanced one is going to Jupiter's red spot
<@KingYoshi> yeah, they usually have a poll to vote on the next task, or simply make suggestions for the next task
<Soulnote> Basic is finding sunken treasure
<legendarymidget> whats the 'red spot'?
<Soulnote> No, it was officially posted there yesterday
<@KingYoshi> ninja then picks it from the suggestions (usually
<Soulnote> It's a spot of jupitre eternally ravaged by storms
<legendarymidget> ah cheers

<Soulnote> It was posted there yesterday, officially
<tblanco> can someone link to task of the month?
<Soulnote> about 4X the size of earth
<@KingYoshi> Ah, I guess he has decided to reward the people who completed the previous one a few extra days to get ready for it
<Soulnote> Blanco, you mean june?
<legendarymidget> I only see May's one
<Soulnote> Unless you've done the TOTM and have your wings, you won;t be able to look
<tblanco> either
<Soulnote> No, I'm saying the people who have their wings, meaning they have done a months TOTM, get to se next months earlier
<legendarymidget> I see
<@KingYoshi> @skarr - making the moon fall wouldn't be too hard at all...making it crash into the earth may be a bit more difficult

<Soulnote> June's task was posted yesterday in the Lucid task club forum
<skarr> lol PercyLucid tried to make me do that XD
<legendarymidget> I actually did the Psychokinesis one but couldn't be bothered submitting it
<Soulnote> Telekinesis is EZ
<legendarymidget> too much effort
<skarr> make the room fall
<skarr> moon"
<hashmash89> hey yoshi what would be an easy way to shapeshift?
<skarr> lul
<tblanco> telekenisis is easy
<@KingYoshi> @hash... whenever I shapeshift, I imagine the process in my mind and usual use heavy passive control....I will
<legendarymidget> Not for me
<tblanco> i can almost do it in real life
<Soulnote> Yep, too easy
<Soulnote> Ok, that part I don't believe you on
<legendarymidget> I moved the psi wheel
<legendarymidget> in real life
<skarr> Teleporting in LDs
<@KingYoshi> usually let out a grunt/scream/etc and act as if I am morphing/shifting and then simply act as if I am whatever I wanted to be...
<Soulnote> Go throug doors
<legendarymidget> I eventually got to the stage where I could control its direction
<Soulnote> Like you're in pain...
<legendarymidget> and speed
<skarr> if you walk through walls you know your dreaming, lol
<@KingYoshi> if I didn't actually shapeshift like I wanted, I just act like I did, and soon I will be what I was acting like
<tblanco> or just ask somebody
<tblanco> man, why do i have a giraffe neck?
<hashmash89> interesting i really want to give this a try, how do you confirm if you've actually shifted? just look at your hands and feet?
<Soulnote> Bac k
<Soulnote> and I brought nesquick
<@KingYoshi> yeah, or look in a mirror, but usually you can just feel it
<hashmash89> cool ill have to try it, gracias
<Soulnote> What' the most amazing sight people have seen in their dreams here?
<@KingYoshi> yeah no problem...just get your acting on

...you can do just about anything with passive control
<skarr> Has anyone meditate for LDs before?
<hashmash89> yeah i gotta practice it more
<legendarymidget> Can you use active dream control to change your form
<legendarymidget> or do you need to use passive?
<tblanco> wow, i did the basic task of the month last night
<hashmash89> ive meditated for recall but not really for lds
<Soulnote> It would be hard to find a way to do it with passive
<skarr> oh
<Soulnote> either way, I feel ignored now...
<hashmash89> do you have success with it?
<@KingYoshi> your note ignored...i'm just trying to catch up with everything

<Soulnote> I asked the most amazing sight people have seen
<@KingYoshi> hmm, its hard to pick just one really...i suppose when I saw the end of the world...it was pretty amazing
<hashmash89> i dont know the most amazing ever but just last night i was looking at some clouds with a large spectrum of volors reflecting inside, it was pretty sweet
<legendarymidget> I made the moon glitter and made it shrink
<@KingYoshi> or niagra falls
<hashmash89> *colors
<legendarymidget> and sparkles went everywhere while I was walking through a forest
<Soulnote> I went into my toilet, and saw an amazing sight...not kidding...
<@KingYoshi> niagra falls was also a huge wave pool

<tblanco> how did the world end
<Soulnote> not INTO my toilet, but into the room
<legendarymidget> haha
<legendarymidget> has anyone been into their tiolet?
<@KingYoshi> @midget...you can use active control to shape shift as well...I would start out with passive and then once you get the hang of it..active would be much quicker
<Soulnote> I opened the door and it looked like old roman ruins with sunlight shining and vines growing on everything and I giant golden rimmed mirror
<legendarymidget> ok thanks

<@KingYoshi> @tb...It would take a while to explain...I'll pull up the dream for you
<legendarymidget> but I really need to work on ADA at the moment
<Soulnote> So that was cool

<hashmash89> ADA is where its at
<Soulnote> ADA?
<legendarymidget> KingYoshi's an expert on it
<hashmash89> all day awareness, its a dild technique yeah yoshi has a tutorial for it
<@KingYoshi> http://www.dreamviews.com/f12/all-da...gyoshi-113253/
<@KingYoshi> ADA
<skarr> was wondering what ADA was
<Soulnote> Oh, I pretty much use that without meaning too
<legendarymidget> It also makes reality more vivid as well
<hashmash89> its like meditating all day
<Soulnote> I'm aware and take curiousity in everything, id there's something that's even a bit off, I'll always investigate out of curiousity, and I question things, is that kinda like ADA?
<legendarymidget> It's like focusing on all your senses
<skarr> I've been meditating for awhile now
<legendarymidget> and feeling what living feels like
<legendarymidget> so you can distinguish your dreams from reality
<Soulnote> Yeah I know, that's what I kind of do
<hashmash89> yeah i dont know where id be if i didnt meditate
<@KingYoshi> yeah, naturally distinguish them
<skarr> feeling what living feels like is good eh?
<@KingYoshi> yeah soul, that is a lot like it...what you described
<Soulnote> So I kinda ADA without realizing it

<@KingYoshi> yup, yup

<legendarymidget> are you a natural lucid dreamer Soulnote?
<@KingYoshi> I'm still looking for that End of the World dream TB
<tblanco> i'm going to sleep, thanks Yoshi
<tblanco> very inspiring
<tblanco> see you guys in the dreamworld
<@KingYoshi> peace TB
<hashmash89> see you there
<Soulnote> Well I DILD very often, if I sleep normal, I've been having to go to bed at 3AM lately, so I don't even recall anything
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<Soulnote> Does anybody else have DILD's like this?
<Soulnote> Ok
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<Soulnote> When you become lucid, it's not like you suddenly realised you were dreaming, it's like you knew it all along but only jsut chose to acknowlege it now
<Soulnote> I can't explain it
<@KingYoshi> when I become lucid now, I become lucid for no apparent reason...just random lucidity, but its actually from ADA. I am able to tell the difference between waking life and the dream state naturally
<@KingYoshi> like, I become lucid because I am dreaming
<legendarymidget> Are you doing ADA now?
<@KingYoshi> @soul...yeah that happens sometimes as well
<Soulnote> That's the same as with me, I often randomly become lucid for no apparent reason
<@KingYoshi> yeah, I am always performing ADA
<legendarymidget> Just testing you

<@KingYoshi> well, almost always
<Soulnote> I'm aware of everything around me
<@KingYoshi> yeah, thats good soul
<@KingYoshi> what up zeebs
<legendarymidget> and that means you'll be aware of everything in your dreams as well
<Soulnote> Why do some have a @ next to their name
<Soulnote> Oh wait, your'e both DG's nvm
<skarr> lol
<@KingYoshi> yeah

<Soulnote> When I ask soemthing I often qwuickly figure it out
<Soulnote> quickly
<@KingYoshi> ah, yeah I do that too

<Soulnote> heh
<@KingYoshi> @midget have you had much success with lucid dreaming so far?
<legendarymidget> a little
<legendarymidget> I have recall problems
<@KingYoshi> ah, i see...are you able to perform WBTB...it really helps with recall
<legendarymidget> Only on Saturday nights
<Soulnote> Well you're still better then the general population
<legendarymidget> I have school

<legendarymidget> @soulnote Thats true
<skarr> midget u in high school or college?
<legendarymidget> High school
<skarr> oh
<skarr> I graduated last summer
<Soulnote> Same here
<Soulnote> Yr 10
<legendarymidget> I'm 16
<skarr> I start College next month
<skarr> Taking beginner game development
<Soulnote> Oohh, nervous?
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<skarr> kinda
<@KingYoshi> ah, i see...well really, if you are able to get back to sleep easily...you just set an alarm, wake up, write down your dream, and go right back to sleep
<skarr> Wow how long has Zebrah been in here :s
<skarr> umm
<@KingYoshi> waking up in the night, you will remember your dreams really easily
<skarr> KingYoshi
<skarr> What if you cant stand loud alarms?
<legendarymidget> The problem is, i need to find an alarm that isn't too loud because if it is, it'll shock me and I instantly think of the alarm instead of my dreams...
<skarr> I always wake up naturally in the morning also
<legendarymidget> and i'll forget
<Soulnote> Have one that starts soft, but gradualy get's louder
<skarr> I agree with midget
<@KingYoshi> hmm, you can use a cell phone on vibrate and put it in your sock
<@KingYoshi> @soul...yeah
<legendarymidget> sounds good
<skarr> LOL it'll feel weird
<skarr> when it vibrates in your pants
<skarr> XD
<Soulnote> ...
<legendarymidget> haha
<skarr> in ur pocket
<skarr> or sock
<skarr> lol
<@KingYoshi> yeah, but it will wake you up gradually, and just keep a notebook and oen beside your bed
<Soulnote> yeah...
<@KingYoshi> you could also turn the volume of the alarm on low, and use MILD to help it wake you up
<Soulnote> That's a good idea
<legendarymidget> I havn't heard of that before
<legendarymidget> doing MILD to wake up
<Soulnote> Did you guys know you actually wake up after every dream?
<legendarymidget> yep
<legendarymidget> but I forget
<hashmash89> yeah thats how i wbtb now
<@KingYoshi> yeah, that is why MILD works to help you wake up
<Soulnote> You're just barely conscious and it's short that you often don't remember
<@KingYoshi> they are called micro-awakenings
<Soulnote> yeah, well more specifically, it helps you know you're awake when it happens
<legendarymidget> You can use autosuggestion to wake yourself up during these
<@KingYoshi> yes indeed

<legendarymidget> I love autosuggestion
<hashmash89> then you wont need the alarm
<skarr> shit I feel like I have to puke -__-
<Soulnote> ...
<Soulnote> Random :d
<skarr> been sick all day
<hashmash89> why is that
<hashmash89> oh
<skarr> from the storm we had
<legendarymidget> I've got a cold too
<legendarymidget> it sucks

<skarr> throat hurts
<skarr> and I feel cold
<skarr> I slept all day
<skarr> >_>
<skarr> it sucks
<Soulnote> I ain't foot no cold

<legendarymidget> Have any lucids?
<Soulnote> ..got
<legendarymidget> when you were sleeping all day
<legendarymidget> ?
<@KingYoshi> i was about to say...if I feel sick I just sleep it off nowadays
<skarr> it hurt to talk last night
<skarr> no lol
<skarr> But I tried to
<legendarymidget> That sucks
<skarr> I tried doing dream stabilization in a non lucid lmao
<skarr> weird
<legendarymidget> the best thing is when you have lucids when your sick
<legendarymidget> it makes you feel better

<skarr> yea
<Soulnote> A lot of the time I become lucid, it's when I'm telling a confused DC that it's a dream...
<skarr> Cause when you sleep the brain half way shuts off
<skarr> etc
<skarr> u know how it works
<skarr> Wished that fucking funnel cloud didnt scare me
<legendarymidget> Today in my dream I told my dad that it was a dream and that he was a figment of my imagination... and I still didn't become lucid
<Soulnote> fail...
<skarr> sucks
<legendarymidget> yep
<skarr> almost got killed the other day
<@KingYoshi> ah, that can happen sometimes
<legendarymidget> If only i'd done a reality check...
<Soulnote> I win the award for most amazing toilet room in a dream
<@KingYoshi> yessir, RCs for the win
<skarr> from tornadic weather...
<legendarymidget> congrats
<hashmash89> when your flying in a lucid dream, do you have to imagine where you are flying to? or will the environment create itself?
<skarr> I like nose pinch RC
<Soulnote> Same, nose pinch is easy and effective
<Soulnote> though it SOMETIMES fails...
<@KingYoshi> soul, one time I got sucked into an air conditioner during a WILD and it was a winterwonderland on the inside...with polar bears, penguins, and shit, lol
<skarr> I love breathing through it
<Soulnote> don't ask me about flying
<skarr> true
<legendarymidget> lol
<hashmash89> ive had it fail on me, ive had counting fingers fail too
<skarr> LOL!
<Soulnote> lol Yoshi
<skarr> KingYoshi
<legendarymidget> that would've been cool
<@KingYoshi> i've never ad the nosepinch fail for me
<skarr> sucked in a air conditioner XD
<@KingYoshi> not yet anyway
<skarr> KingYoshi
<@KingYoshi> all the other RCs have failed though
<skarr> Winterwonderland... Narnia much?
<skarr> lol
<Soulnote> Among those who have heard of me in the forums, I'm famous for being so unusually suckish at flying
<legendarymidget> I've only managed to jump...
<legendarymidget> no flying yet
<hashmash89> me too jumped pretty high though
<Soulnote> Some flying fails include
<@KingYoshi> @hash - If you are wanting to fly to a specific scene, it is always good to imagine the scene and just look for it
<@KingYoshi> oh, you are wanting to fly
<hashmash89> can you just let it be random?
<@KingYoshi> sure hash
<hashmash89> it wouldnt just fade on you or anything like that?
<@KingYoshi> you can just fly around and find all kinds of strange/cool stuff
<hashmash89> oh thats cool
<@KingYoshi> yeah, a lot of my LDs are exploring
<Soulnote> Faceplant into a fence, DC's holding me down, falling in a pit, landing on a pole in a place you don't want a pole to hit, being tangled up with rope and death
<@KingYoshi> I'll just run/fly around and interact with whatever I find
<Soulnote> those are some of the examples of what happen when i fly...
<hashmash89> that would be sweet, lol @soul
<Soulnote> They were...interesting...
<legendarymidget> go go go
<hashmash89> next time i try to fly im gonna try the swim technique
<skarr> Hey KingYoshi
<@KingYoshi> sometimes if I am flying, I will see a power line and think about crashing into it, or worrying that I might and then BOOM...i crash into a power line
<Soulnote> Who else here thinks their subconscious just LOVES screwing with them?
<skarr> Is it possible to have background music in LDs?
<legendarymidget> me
<Soulnote> Anything's possible, so yes
<Soulnote> yup
<skarr> nice
<@KingYoshi> you have to really just believe that you can fly without interference, expect to be able to fly just fine and you will be good...once you already get airborne that is
<@KingYoshi> if you have trouble staying airborne, try the swimming motion
<Soulnote> I forgot who, but someone heard One Winged Angel, then sephiroth showed up
<legendarymidget> what do you do when you start falling?
<@KingYoshi> I did

<skarr> YouTube - ‪Pandora hearts OST 10 - Bloody Rabbit DOWNLOAD MP3‬&rlm;
<Soulnote> oh yeah
<skarr> I'd like to have that song in a LD
<legendarymidget> just expect that you will rise?
<Soulnote> I forgot, I once read through your DJ when it was on the forum, the old ones
<@KingYoshi> one winged angel is such an awesome song
<skarr> The metal version?
<skarr> From Advent Children?
<Soulnote> I used to be Zezarict if you remember him, Yoshi
<@KingYoshi> midget, that could work, but I would suggest jumping into the air and performing the swimming motion
<Soulnote> But I forgot the password...
<@KingYoshi> yeah, I remember SOul

<hashmash89> i bring to many rules from waking life into my lucids, i gotta get that acting going
<legendarymidget> same
<legendarymidget> I need to change my expectations
<@KingYoshi> yeah hash...acting helps you get around those rules you create
<skarr> Hmm
<skarr> I need to start meditating more...
<hashmash89> meditating just helps with everything
<skarr> need to read ShockWaves void meditation lesson
<Soulnote> When I become lucid, I'm normally really really conscious, and that part of my brain that says the laws of the world also switches on...
<skarr> I was depressed one day
<skarr> really depressed
<skarr> I went and mediate and felt better
<Soulnote> Which is bad
<@KingYoshi> yeah, I've wanted to start meditating too, but I haven't got into yet
<legendarymidget> @Soulnote can you tell us about your flying stories
<skarr> meditating actually made me more positive if im down
<hashmash89> same here soul, and yeah skarr meditation always makes me feel better
<Soulnote> No, it's bad memories...
<legendarymidget> haha
<legendarymidget> you're probobly better than me
<Soulnote> Who else here looks at their bed and thinks of the adventures they've had...while just lying there asleep?
<hashmash89> haha nice, gives me a new appreciation for it
<Soulnote> It's weird looking at your bed and thinking of all your dreams, know they happened there
<legendarymidget> All those adventures where you never even moved a muscel
<@KingYoshi> wow, never thought of it like that Soul
<@KingYoshi> that is fucking awesome
<@KingYoshi> i shall never look at my bed the same again

<Soulnote> Yep

<hashmash89> haha i heard that
<legendarymidget> Just looked at my bed just now lol
<legendarymidget> and felt warm memories
<Soulnote>

<@KingYoshi> yeah, so awesome

<legendarymidget> Do you guys talk to your offline friends about lucid dreaming?
<hashmash89> i have one friend whos into luucid dreaming
<Soulnote> not really
<hashmash89> i just recently introduced it to another but hes working on dream recall atm
<@KingYoshi> i have zero friends that are into lucid dreaming (offline), but I talk about it all the time anyway

<hashmash89> haha nice
<legendarymidget> I keep it to myself
<Soulnote> My parents like hearing about it
<hashmash89> i dont think my parents believe its real
<Soulnote> And I have a STRONG suspicion my dad can do it, but he's keeping it from me
<legendarymidget> My parents would think i'm crazy lol
<@KingYoshi> i got my dad to have one after talking to him about it
<Soulnote> Did he like it?
<@KingYoshi> i actually did get one of my old friends to have one, but I haven't hung out with him in ages
<skarr> Has anyone ever bend spoons before with your mind?
<legendarymidget> in real life
<Soulnote> Not in real life
<@KingYoshi> yeah, he was doing super jumps all over the place
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The chat went on quite a bit longer than this, but we strayed off-topic and started talking about anime

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=)

Online were:
KingYoshi
tblanco
skarr
Karlitaki
legendarymidge
Soulnote
hashmash89
SchockWave : Afk-few chats
Slash112 : Afk
Zebrah : for litle time

Thanks for reading and cya in the next DVA Chat !

Special thanks to Karlitaki for the updated log with color code

! Awesome man, thanks a bunch!

**Karlitaki** · 05-28-2011 10:56 AM

That was a very nice first DVA Chat ! =D
really enjoyed .. too bad i was sleepy and had some pain at my teeth so i had to sleep

Here is the Full chat Log if ur interested.
Click_Here

Thanks yoshi , waiting the next one =)

**KingYoshi** · 05-29-2011 07:31 PM

Awesome Karl! I updated the post with your color coded log. Thanks a lot

!

**KingYoshi** · 06-04-2011 05:35 AM

Chat session number two has ended

. It went down like this.........

Session Start: Fri Jun 03 22:44:57 2011
Session Ident: #DVA
03[22:44] * Now talking in #DVA
03[22:44] * Topic is 'Welcome to the DreamViews Academy - Dream Control +'
03[22:44] * Set by LameWave^|Away on Fri May 27 14:51:49
13[22:44] * DreamBot sets mode: +o KingYoshi

<@KingYoshi> how has your LDing been going?
<legendarymidget> ok
<legendarymidget> been trying ada and got a lucid this morning
<legendarymidget> and then got two other from DEILD

<&Karlitaki> hey ! i just LD'd yesterday =D
<@KingYoshi> awesome, yeah I love DEILD
<@KingYoshi> nice karl
<legendarymidget> best technique ever
<legendarymidget> you just have to sit there
<@KingYoshi> exactly

<@KingYoshi> sit there and observe
<&Karlitaki> never tried DEILD isnt it like dild?
<@KingYoshi> nah, DEILD is actually a form of WILD
<@KingYoshi> Dream Exit Induced Lucid Dream is what it stands for
<&Karlitaki> u have to setup alarm?
<@KingYoshi> well, its easiest to use when chaining lucid dreams, or if you become lucid as you are waking up
<legendarymidget> you just sit there and another ld starts

<legendarymidget> after a dream has ended
<@KingYoshi> you can set alarms and try it, but it gets a lot more difficult if you actually wake up and then try to DEILD
<@KingYoshi> yeah, like if you feel your dream ending, just lay there with your eyes closed and don't move...
<@KingYoshi> you will wake up and enter right back into a lucid dream
<legendarymidget> hey yoshi, I have a question
<@KingYoshi> shoot
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<@KingYoshi> hello inside!
<insideout> Hi. am I late?
<legendarymidget> if you perform a MILD ritual every night, if you become lucid in a dream, how do you know if it was a DILD or MILD?
<@KingYoshi> you are fine

<insideout> :^)
<@KingYoshi> well, MILD actually falls under the category of DILD...a lot of times a MILD has qualities of both
<@KingYoshi> its really up to you how you want to classify it
<legendarymidget> ok cool

<@KingYoshi> if you think the mantra/ritual is what helped you become lucid, you can classify it as a MILD
<@KingYoshi> I usuaully just call all of my MILDs, DILDS, to save the trouble of deciphering exactly how it happened
<legendarymidget> I guess if I forget to perform MILD ritual at night, then I'll classify it as a DILD but if I remember, it will be a MILD
<@KingYoshi> but, you can go about it however you wish...since MILD falls under DILD, there really is no right or wrong way to classify them
<@KingYoshi> yeah, that sounds good
<@KingYoshi> how have you been doing inside?
<insideout> In what way?
<@KingYoshi> all ways

...in general and LDing
<insideout> Oh, erm... Pretty good, mostly. Had some trouble with control in my last Lucid dream.
<&Karlitaki> sry im back

<@KingYoshi> welcome back karl
<insideout> And I was trying the wrong task.
<@KingYoshi> ah, what did you have trouble with
<@KingYoshi> ah, i see. that can happen

<@KingYoshi> several times I thought I had completed a task of the month in my dream, only to wake up and realize I was waaaay off
<legendarymidget> lol
<insideout> I wanted to do the stars and moon task, but instead I kept trying to talk to people about stuff. And they were not responding
<insideout> And then some cops came at me.
<@KingYoshi> damn, the dream police
<@KingYoshi> even worse than waking life police

<insideout> They told me to put my hands up and I said "This is my dream, I don't have to." But they were very demanding, so I did.
<@KingYoshi> lol, yeah they seem to be really aggressive in dreams
<legendarymidget> did you try hugging them?
<insideout> They seemed to not like that I was talking about predicting the future in dreams.
<@KingYoshi> in non-lucids police always steal my weed
<insideout> No... I didn't think to hug them...
<@KingYoshi> ah, i see inside
<insideout> heh
<&Karlitaki> lol

<legendarymidget> when you hug mean dc's they turn nice

<legendarymidget> usually...
<insideout> I've done that in past lucids. Just didn't think of it in this one.
<insideout> Also didn't remember the task I wanted to do.
<@KingYoshi> yeah, i love interacting with DCs in dreams
<insideout> But the two lucids before that one went very well.
<@KingYoshi> yeah, I read your tasks
<insideout> :^)
<@KingYoshi> very nicely done

<insideout> Thanks
<@KingYoshi> had you ever used much passive control before?
<&Karlitaki> emm my prob is controlling the dream cus when i get into LD , i know i am LDing and i wanna go outside for example but my mind does different things
<insideout> I have a few times. Not a lot.
<@KingYoshi> hmm, are saying you get distracted in the dreams Karl...and end up doing different stuff?
<&Karlitaki> for example i wanted to go outside of home when i LD'd today
<&Karlitaki> i open my door
<&Karlitaki> and at the right is my uncle
<&Karlitaki> he takes me up
<&Karlitaki> and he takes me to my bro's room
<&Karlitaki> no reason why
<&Karlitaki> he just wait me whereever i go
<&Karlitaki> lol
<@KingYoshi> ah, do you have many windows? you could try diving out of the window
<&Karlitaki> i have in my room
<&Karlitaki> hmm
<@KingYoshi> that is usually how I get outside, because doors seem to be tricky sometimes
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<&Karlitaki> hello .
<tblanco> hi
<legendarymidget> hey
<SlashBot> hello
<&Karlitaki> u know the prob is
<@KingYoshi> like, I'll open a door and there will be like 20 doors i have to open

.....or they will lead into another random room
<&Karlitaki> oh

<insideout> I jump through windows a lot. Sometimes without thinking.
<@KingYoshi> yeah, I love to dive head first out of them and take flight before touching the ground
<@KingYoshi> hello tb

<tblanco> what's up
<legendarymidget> I tried flying this morning...
<insideout> Though once I jumped at a window and hit my head on the glass.
<tblanco> i'm preparing for a wild attempt early tomorrw morn
<@KingYoshi> nice tb
<@KingYoshi> how did it go midget?
<&Karlitaki> before i sleep i alllways say what i want to do when i get LD.. for example smoke weed and go outside , but when i get into LD i dont think about it
<legendarymidget> not good
<legendarymidget> I basically was jumping up and down and the neighbours were looking at me
<@KingYoshi> @inside - yeah, I have definitely done that...not with windows so much, but my sliding glass door has rejected me a few time
<@KingYoshi> yeah, karl...next time you become lucid, just stand there for a moment and allow the rush to pass...collect your thoughts for a few moments
<@KingYoshi> a lot of times upon becoming lucid, our minds get ahead of ourselves
<&Karlitaki> ohh thats why
<@KingYoshi> ah, i see midget...did you try any specific flying techniques?
<legendarymidget> I tried gliding
<@KingYoshi> yeah, karl sometimes you just have to take a few moments to let your mind and the dream settle
<&Karlitaki> today i had FA and HI and i heard chainsaw behnd me and i was trying to change that voice with my mind and my mouth
<&Karlitaki> like making mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
<legendarymidget> on my final attempt, I glided through a TV screen without breaking it but unfortunately I woke up
<&Karlitaki> and it worked lol
<@KingYoshi> nice Karl...yeah with SP and HI/HH, you can get the scary stuff to change/disappear
<&Karlitaki> i was thinkin someones behind me with chainsaw
<&Karlitaki> then i saw my bob marley poster
<&Karlitaki> and changed the voice with my mind into bike
<&Karlitaki>

<@KingYoshi> nice midget, tvs are pretty good portals as well
<insideout> ooh, TV portal. I should try that.
<@KingYoshi> ah, nice karl...i remember hearing loud screaming one time and i changed it into a sports announcer
<legendarymidget> If only I hadn't woke up. It was the most success I've had with flying so far
<tblanco> i do like that
<&Karlitaki> haha
<&Karlitaki>

<@KingYoshi> yeah, you can flip through the channels and find a cool place and then phase into/fly into the tv
<@KingYoshi> and go to that scene
<&Karlitaki> i also woke up yesterday in a dream and i wanted to write my dreams on dreamviews DJ
<legendarymidget> thats if you don't break the TV

<@KingYoshi> just keep practicing midget
<@KingYoshi> it took me about 2 or 3 weeks worth of lucids before I learned to fly
<@KingYoshi> ah, true...i have broken a few tvs as well
<legendarymidget> did it hurt?
<@KingYoshi> got my foot stuck in there a couple times

<@KingYoshi> nah
<&Karlitaki> o.o
<tblanco> have you stretched the tv screen to full sized?
<@KingYoshi> nah, actually I haven't...i went through medium sized tv each time I entered one
<tblanco> do you shrink? or squeeze
<&Karlitaki> PC Monitor is also portal right?
<@KingYoshi> you definitely could stretch it though...it would make it a lot easier
<legendarymidget> if you get stuck half-way, how would you get out?
<@KingYoshi> yeah Karl...any sort of monitor/mirror can be used pretty easily
<insideout> Mirrors are usually scary for me.
<&Karlitaki> mirrors too?
<@KingYoshi> tb, I stepped one leg in, ducked my head through and then brought the other leg through
<@KingYoshi> yeah mirrors are awesome for using as a portal karl
<&Karlitaki> i just jump into the mirror?
<@KingYoshi> ah, I have so many mirrors around that I don't really fear them at all
<@KingYoshi> eh, I would just phase through it instead of jumping through
<insideout> Full size mirrors would be great
<&Karlitaki> cool
<legendarymidget> whats this phasing thing? I've heard of it but don't really know what it is
<@KingYoshi> like, place your hand on it karl and slowly push until your hand goes through
<@KingYoshi> like melting through something
<&Karlitaki> ok will try

<@KingYoshi> basically, just passing through a solid object as if it were liquid...best way i can describe it

<legendarymidget> sounds challenging
<&Karlitaki> i never eat something in a dream
<&Karlitaki> how is it?
<@KingYoshi> yeah, inside, I have three pretty large mirrors in my room in real life, strictly for lucid dreaming

<@KingYoshi> that way, when I WILD, I can just phase through my mirrors to new places if i wish
<insideout> Neat
<@KingYoshi> eating is awesome Karl
<@KingYoshi> i have spent an entire LD at an all you can eat buffet
<@KingYoshi> I just ate a whole bunch of different foods that were there
<@KingYoshi> I actually got full and couldn't eat anymore, lol
<&Karlitaki>

<insideout> Eating in dreams is pretty fun.
<&Karlitaki> lol can u get full
<@KingYoshi> yeah, I got so full I couldn't eat another bite
<insideout> I had a drink in a lucid dream recently that was cool and refreshing.
<&Karlitaki> can i for example
<&Karlitaki> say
<&Karlitaki> i want space cookie in my fridge
<&Karlitaki> and i open will it be there

?
<@KingYoshi> @midget, it isn't as hard as it sounds...just take it slow and practice
<@KingYoshi> sure karl, if it isn't close the fridge, imagine it and open the fridge again
<legendarymidget> practice makes perfect eh
<@KingYoshi> just keep opening and closing and the contents of your fridge will likely change each time
<&Karlitaki> that would be cool

<&Karlitaki> loool

<insideout> What are space cookies? I imagined cookies made of space.
<tblanco> that's awesome
<tblanco> i kept looking at a can over and over again and the label kept changing
<insideout> With little stars in them
<@KingYoshi> indeed it does midget...mirrors are so strange and surreal anyway, that practicing phasing with a mirror is probably the easiest way to start
<legendarymidget> ok will do

<@KingYoshi> @inside - weed cookies

<@KingYoshi> or hash cookies
<insideout> Oh, hah.
<@KingYoshi> yeah tb, text likes to change in dreams as well
<insideout> Never heard them called that before.
<tblanco> i'm oore of the firecracker man myself
<tblanco> firecracker over space cookie i mean
<&Karlitaki> is swimming cool
<&Karlitaki> =d?
<@KingYoshi> yeah, you can breath underwater

<&Karlitaki> pr0

<legendarymidget> and swim with the fish

<&Karlitaki> swim with sharks
<&Karlitaki> lal
<@KingYoshi> yeah, breathing underwater feels really cool...yeah I swam with a few sharks just a few nights ago
<tblanco> i jumped into a swimming pool and swam miles down
<@KingYoshi> awesome tb
<legendarymidget> I'd like to swim down the nile
<&Karlitaki> xD
<&Karlitaki> i wanna drive
<@KingYoshi> i sometimes get afraid of extremely deep water for some reason...when I look out into it, i get freaked out sometimes
<&Karlitaki> should i go outside and steal a car and drive?
<legendarymidget> do it

<@KingYoshi> karl, once you get in the car...fly it!!
<tblanco> when i 'm driving to work now, i practice pulling back on the wheel and imaging flying
<@KingYoshi> flying cars is so awesome
<tblanco> thanks for that lesson
<&Karlitaki> woot
<legendarymidget> like harry potter
<@KingYoshi> awesome tb

<@KingYoshi> yeah, I flew a car on top of clouds and was doing doughnuts and stuff on top of the clouds
<tblanco> i can't wait to wake up in a car
<tblanco> i will fly that fucker away
<&Karlitaki> Very cool ;D
<&Karlitaki> how is singing
<&Karlitaki> lol =D
<@KingYoshi> i really want to fly a car tonight
<tblanco> that would be awesome
<&Karlitaki> meet me in a car yoshi
<&Karlitaki> we fly together xD
<@KingYoshi> i rapped on stage one time in a lucid Karl...i didn't remember the words once i woke up
<&Karlitaki> uhh :
<tblanco> i have written jokes in dreams
<@KingYoshi> but, the crowd was cheering and singing with me in it
<legendarymidget> words are so hard to remember...
<@KingYoshi> awesome tb, did you remember any of them
<tblanco> yeah
<tblanco> they are in my set
<@KingYoshi> I remember conversations very well midget, but certain things like speeches and songs I have made in dreams are really jard for me to remember
<@KingYoshi> ah, nice tb
<tblanco> frequently you just remember how awesome they were
<@KingYoshi> yeah
<legendarymidget> I can't remember any words at all, just the meaning of the sentence
<legendarymidget> but i guess thats good enough
<legendarymidget> words are only used to convey meaning anyway

<@KingYoshi> a few times I had come up with theories on the world and several things that I thought were genius, but once I woke up, i realized they were very stupid, lol
<legendarymidget> lol
<@KingYoshi> true
<&Karlitaki>

<&Karlitaki> but in ur dream it was cool
<@KingYoshi> yes indeed
<tblanco> maybe you think they are stupid, but really they ARE genius
<@KingYoshi> i would think, "I have to remember this when I wake up...its genius!" then I wake up and am like, "Really? wtf was i thinking?"
<@KingYoshi> lol
<&Karlitaki> xD
<@KingYoshi> they might have been
<&Karlitaki> cus u just say anything comes from ur mind ?

<@KingYoshi> one of them was me starting a million dollar buisness starting a cow transportation service
<insideout> As a cartoonest, I have gotten some interesting images from dreams.
<&Karlitaki> do images move
<&Karlitaki> for example car image or so
<@KingYoshi> I have wrote a few short stories that came from dreams
<insideout> Sometimes?
<@KingYoshi> yeah, sometimes
<insideout> If I see a drawing or a painting in a dream, it tends to change a lot.
<@KingYoshi> they can change, move, disappear, all kinds of things
<@KingYoshi> yeah, me too inside
<insideout> Cool
<@KingYoshi> also, I am a retro video game collector, so I have dreams where I will be at a flea market or something and...
<tblanco> cows need rides too
<@KingYoshi> will be looking through old NES games, and they keep changing on me
<@KingYoshi> lol, tb
<tblanco> must sleep now
<tblanco> wish me crazy dream thoughts
<@KingYoshi> aite, peace tb

<legendarymidget> have good dreams

<insideout> What sucks is when you find something really awesome in a dream that you wish you could bring back with you to waking reality.
<@KingYoshi> good luck and have some crazy dreams
<@KingYoshi> yeah inside, agreed
<tblanco> will do u2
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<legendarymidget> its bad in a lucid but in a normal dream it is worse
<@KingYoshi> i have found so many rare and valuable old video games in dreams...i then wake up and am disappointed
<&Karlitaki> D
<insideout> Yeah, because in a non-lucid you think you actually have it.
<insideout> and then you wake up...
<legendarymidget> and your like "Damn."
<@KingYoshi> the worst was back a few years ago, before I had ever started lucid dreaming...me and an old ex girlfirend had broke up...and I kept dreaming we got back together...for like a month straight
<insideout> damn
<legendarymidget> unlucky
<&Karlitaki> awch

<&Karlitaki> my gf is weed
<&Karlitaki> =D
<insideout> hot
<@KingYoshi> I didn't even smoke back then
<legendarymidget> If you had to give up sex or weed, which one would it be?
<@KingYoshi> anyway, i finally started realizing i was dreaming every time i saw her
<&Karlitaki> weed
<@KingYoshi> this was before i knew about lucid dreaming though
<&Karlitaki> ill go to hash
<&Karlitaki>

<legendarymidget> hah
<legendarymidget> a
<@KingYoshi> sex or weed...man that is a hard one
<&Karlitaki> true

<&Karlitaki> sex with weed thats how it needs to be

<legendarymidget> um...
<@KingYoshi> hopefully, that situation never arises
<legendarymidget> maybe sex while smoking weed

<@KingYoshi> i have definitely done that...many times

<legendarymidget> lol
<@KingYoshi> I didn't have a very good may for dreaming
<&Karlitaki> i was having sex high then i got my bong and hitted it while fuking

<@KingYoshi> i had lots of insomnia spells this passed month though
<@KingYoshi> awesome karl
<insideout> May has been good for me.
<@KingYoshi> karl, have you ever smoked in a dream
<@KingYoshi> awesome inside

<&Karlitaki> yea like 5-6 times i remember the 2 times
<legendarymidget> how many inside?
<legendarymidget> for may?
<&Karlitaki> my last time i smoked
<&Karlitaki> i was bombed
<insideout> I've thought I was high in many dreams.
<&Karlitaki> only from 2 2 hits from joint
<@KingYoshi> i mean, mine was like normal, but I just slept a lot less this month...i had like three or four 50 hour insomnia spells this month
<&Karlitaki> i turn to paranoid

<@KingYoshi> ah, you got paranoid in your dream

<&Karlitaki> ye i was scared

<&Karlitaki> it was non lucid so
<@KingYoshi> ah, i see
<&Karlitaki> i was like
<&Karlitaki> scared from everything
<&Karlitaki> cus of that joint hit
<&Karlitaki> i was teleporting to trees
<legendarymidget> well better luck next time

<@KingYoshi> its awesome how only one hit can make you high as a kite...and like, one drink of alcohol can make you drunk
<&Karlitaki> and seeing dogs sitting or a old man with shotgun and amera
<&Karlitaki> ye :d
<@KingYoshi> old man with a shotgun eh? lol
<&Karlitaki> at the tree..
<&Karlitaki> like 10 fts
<&Karlitaki> feets
<&Karlitaki> a woman is sitting too
<&Karlitaki> and that man with shotgun and camera?
<&Karlitaki> i was like whata???
<&Karlitaki> i though firstly that the old man is spying that woman
<&Karlitaki> but with shotgun
<legendarymidget> just shoot the fuck out of him before he gets you
<&Karlitaki> xD
<@KingYoshi> yeah, i have had some odd things happen...I was in a lucid with gandolf from Lord of the Rings....
<@KingYoshi> we were flying on a broom and he kept pinching my ass...we ended up crashing in a lake...and he was swimming around pinching everyones ass
<&Karlitaki> i saw few animals up there.. and i tried to pull them down with my feed , then that animal [rapid i think] said to me in German "ey wait call me and his name"
<&Karlitaki> lolz
<legendarymidget> wonder what that means lol
<@KingYoshi> lol, who knows...I have had some really weird dreams...
<@KingYoshi> one time...
<&Karlitaki> like weird dreams

<@KingYoshi> i had a group of beavers wearing german nazi clothes following me around doing the gustappo march
<@KingYoshi> i had a dream where I met abe lincoln
<legendarymidget> nazi beavers!!
<@KingYoshi> lol, yeah
<legendarymidget> what did old lincoln say?
<@KingYoshi> he told me he was getting ready to go to the theatre...
<&Karlitaki> lol nazi beavers

<@KingYoshi> and i told him not to go
<legendarymidget> why?
<@KingYoshi> but he said that the world wouldn't be the same if he didn't go
<@KingYoshi> because that is where he got shot
<legendarymidget> ah i see
<legendarymidget> so you wanted him to live but he didn't listen to you
<@KingYoshi> then i started dancing to fiddle music with colonials
<@KingYoshi> yeah, he said he had to die or the world wouldn't be the same
<&Karlitaki> i think its cool when u have ur window opened , and hear outside cus everything u hear it comes in the dream.. example today i was hearing all the time outside from my window a woman talking in english and hear my brother with my uncle laughing so hard.
<@KingYoshi> yeah, i fell asleep with the tv on...had a dream that I worked for myth busters and they were making us test things...I then woke up and myth busters was on the tv
<insideout> neat
<insideout> I don't think I could sleep with the TV on
<legendarymidget> In SP, i thought me brother was playing guitar hero at like 3am
<@KingYoshi> ah, i have always slept with my tv on

<insideout> I'm a light sleeper, generally.
<@KingYoshi> ah, lol midget
<@KingYoshi> ah, i see inside
<@KingYoshi> how long do your LDs usually last...like not real time, but how long do they feel like they last?
<@KingYoshi> @inside
<insideout> Hmm.... hard to say.
<insideout> several minutes
<@KingYoshi> ah, i see
<insideout> 30 minutes at most, I would guess.
<&Karlitaki> i never had more than 2 mins ld
<@KingYoshi> i was just wondering about the light sleeper thing
<insideout> After my first 6 hours of sleep, I tend to wake up ever hour or hour and a half, until I get up.
<@KingYoshi> i am a heavy sleeper and mine usually feel like an hour or more...though a lot of it probably has to do with how long I have been practicing
<insideout> How long have you been practicing, KY?
<@KingYoshi> of course, when I first started LDing, they didn't last that long
<@KingYoshi> since November 2008
<insideout> of course
<@KingYoshi> but, I had LDs since I was a kid
<legendarymidget> how long have you been practicing ADA?
<@KingYoshi> since late 2009
<@KingYoshi> i took several breaks in it though
<@KingYoshi> when I first started
<insideout> I've been practicing since May 2009
<legendarymidget> ADA?
<@KingYoshi> ah, did you have LDs when you were younger inside?
<insideout> Nope. None that I remember.
<insideout> Well, I did try lucid dreaming years ago, and had a few very short ones.
<legendarymidget> well i gotta go study for exams, cya

<insideout> Bye, happy dreaming
<@KingYoshi> i would know I was dreaming many times when I was a kid, but that is all it was...i didn't know I could do cool things...I just knew I wouldn't get in trouble, so I'd break stuff and fight people
<legendarymidget> cheers

<@KingYoshi> thats about it though
<&Karlitaki> see u legendary
<@KingYoshi> peace midget

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<@KingYoshi> i didn't know about lucid dreaming until I found Dream Views
<&Karlitaki> guys im goin to sleep very soon what u recommend me to do to ld :p
<&Karlitaki> ill sleep like 7 hours
<@KingYoshi> ah, you have a lot of options then
<insideout> WILD? Or a mantra?
<@KingYoshi> yeah, I would try the mantra/auto suggestion as you are going to sleep...are you able to set alarms Karl?
<&Karlitaki> i dont like wild
<insideout> Don't do that one then.
<@KingYoshi> indeed, but are you able to set alarms
<&Karlitaki> thats why i dnt like wild cus of alarms :/
<@KingYoshi> ah
<&Karlitaki> my alarm is annoying anyways
<@KingYoshi> ah, it is a good alarm then

<&Karlitaki> its so loud
<&Karlitaki> that i have to run
<@KingYoshi> i would just do some mantra/auto suggestion Karl
<&Karlitaki> and turn it off
<&Karlitaki> hmm
<@KingYoshi> mild
<&Karlitaki> can u tell me exactly what to do. [ i know but it should be better if i get some steps ]

<@KingYoshi> like, fall asleep telling yourself, "I am lucid dreaming, I am lucid dreaming"
<@KingYoshi> and expect to have a lucid dream
<@KingYoshi> try to fall asleep knowing that you will lucid dream
<&Karlitaki> does it matter which position i slep
<&Karlitaki> i sleep weird
<@KingYoshi> sleep in whatever is most comfortable for you
<@KingYoshi> thats fine karl
<@KingYoshi> i sleep in wierd positions too

<&Karlitaki> im like i wake up and my bed is ...

<@KingYoshi> karl, how did you get the chat log to have colors and stuff last time?
<&Karlitaki> i left my pc on that night
<&Karlitaki> so when i woke up i copied the whole chat slowly
<&Karlitaki> and edited with notepad
<@KingYoshi> oh shit
<&Karlitaki> ^_^
<@KingYoshi> thats a lot of work

<&Karlitaki> its k

<&Karlitaki> ill do it again

<@KingYoshi> that would be awesome if you don't mind
<@KingYoshi> you don't have to though
<&Karlitaki> i dont mind bro

<&Karlitaki> i like doing it
<@KingYoshi> this one was shorter, so it shouldn't be as bad
<&Karlitaki> heh

<@KingYoshi> well, I am going to head off now too...thanks for coming out inside and karl

<&Karlitaki> thanks ky
<insideout> sure. thanks
<@KingYoshi>

<&Karlitaki> u goin to sleep too?
<insideout> bye everyone
<&Karlitaki> have nice day insideout

<@KingYoshi> yeah I have a big flea market to go to in the morning
<&Karlitaki> okay. we all goin to sleep i guess

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<@KingYoshi> yup, yup...peace man!
<&Karlitaki> so i guess we meet in our dreams

<&Karlitaki> peace

<@KingYoshi> i will try to find you karl...and we will fly some cars and smoke some weed
<&Karlitaki>

yeap
<@KingYoshi> oh yeah!
<&Karlitaki> see ya in our world

<@KingYoshi> yessir
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