This is how I view it. Wikileaks as far as I understand it does not go out and find sensitive material. That would be espionage and the government would have power to act. No, instead, sensitive material is given to them. |
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Im sure atleast some of you have been following this story lately but for those that haven't here's a quick overview as i understand it: |
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This is how I view it. Wikileaks as far as I understand it does not go out and find sensitive material. That would be espionage and the government would have power to act. No, instead, sensitive material is given to them. |
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There isn't much to say about this. The soldiers that shot innocent people because they were careless should be kicked out of the army. The officers trying to cover it up should be arrested. The person who leaked it should be set free. And the site should be praised for posting it. |
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thank god i am not alone. i was starting to think that spreading information was EVIL. |
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It isn't WikiLeaks vs the U.S.. |
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Last edited by ArcanumNoctis; 08-14-2010 at 11:39 PM.
the same goes for those who were arrested for filming police officers abusing their powers. both sets of officers just want to cover their asses. leaks of sensitive information aren't anything new, but at present day these things can reach a larger audience faster and potentially influence audits to organizations who're supposed to be acting in our interests. |
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Last edited by cygnus; 08-15-2010 at 01:00 AM.
I think what Wikileaks is doing is great, although I'm a little wary of them because they get money from MSM groups. Meh. |
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So long as they don't leak anything that'll endanger the war effort/NATO soldiers. |
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Incase anyones interested, the cables have been released on the guardian newspaper site and are due to be released in a few hours on wikileaks (which is currently under DDOS attack). They look pretty damaging. take for instance this: |
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Apparently a republican has demanded that Wikileaks is added to the US's list of terrorist organisations. |
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The entire republican party relies on ignorance. If these things are posted free on the internet, they will loss a lot of support. They also spend most of their time demonizing the sites that report the problem, instead of fixing the problem itself. Remember when photos were leaks of Guantanimo Bay prisoners being tortured? |
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Running in the same vein as America doing stupid bullshit, have some anti-America propaganda: |
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Cool post... I actually agreed with pretty much everything there to varying degrees. I've always found the rhetoric about 'freedom' half humorous, half disturbing, and put it down to a historical thing which has been maintained by ignorance of the surrounding world. |
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It isn't just the US that is sinking. The eurozone is collapsing after an extremely short run at things. Australia's government already does things like censoring the internet, and China controls most of asia, and it is one of the least free countries in the world, developed or otherwise. The only thing that I didn't agree with is that the only option is to flee the country, since that isn't much of an option these days. If the United States goes through catastrophic and sudden systemic collapse, the rest of the world will have it's own hard time staying afloat. In my opinion, the best thing to do is to stay where you are and try to carve out your own micro community to make as self-sustainable as possible. |
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At the very least one should distance themselves from major cities. I can't imagine a worst place to live in a society that's on its way to economic hell. |
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True, true. I'm quite glad to be living in a small village with a wood burner, solar panels, a garden, and quite a bit of game. |
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In order to solve the US' public debt crisis, it needs to seriously revamp its tax system. The money for trillion dollar wars and bailouts doesn't come from trees. |
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In order to solve most of the problems we have, the U.S. needs a major paradigm shift; one that steers away from the superficial pleasures of consumerism, and begins to focus more on the most fundamental deficiency we have - that of humanism. |
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What do you mean by Eurozone..? |
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Actually, I meant the West. I thought that's what you meant, when you used it. U.S., Europe, even Australia. You know; the West. If that's not what you meant, then I withdraw the term. Been drinking and just felt like ranting. |
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Last edited by Oneironaut Zero; 11-30-2010 at 02:15 AM.
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So what do you guys think is instore for the US? I see that the fed have started another round of quantitative easing and some countries like Brazil, China and Russia seem to be turning away from the dollar.. eg: http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/china/2...t_11599087.htm |
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lol yeah, I was just confused by your post. Eurozone is a common term which means anywhere which uses the Euro as currency. The UK is very intimately linked with the Eurozone but we're not officially in it (we use good ol' pound sterling). |
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