Government's New Right to Track Your Every Move With GPS

**ClouD** · 02-17-2011 11:43 AM

I would think it's pretty simple. Law enforcement should crack down on "wrong-doers" and not wrong-thinkers. Proof for wrongdoing should be available before action is taken against a person. If no proof is available, then there is a lack of preventative security which should be addressed.

This pretty much leaves everything nicely. Except for when preventative security crosses into the cracking-down part (starts violating rights), in which rules should be put into place by a census vote, not by biased judges which end up setting stupid precedents.

Only way to solve bad rules is to voice discontent. Makes it a bit hard though, when people become stupidly pretentious with support or just don't care. Plan B is blow them bitches up.

**Dthoughts** · 02-17-2011 12:27 PM

Originally Posted by Jay12341235

Why does the government waste our tax dollars tracking people who grow marijuana for god's sake? Complete waste of money and time for starters.

I shouldn't have to buy a fence to have the same amount of privacy that other people do. That's not equal

Because marijuana helps u open ur eyes. Makes you see the big picture of the world easier. It makes you dream better, it helps to stay in touch with reality. And it makes u realize how ur being controlled. That's why they spend millions of dollars tracking weed dealers.

**Dthoughts** · 02-17-2011 12:32 PM

The thing about this right to track everybody's every move is 'Terrorists" to the american government there are shit load of potential terrorists all over the world wich they are allowed to torture and kill if they choose to. Now they have the right to find me aswell? FUCK THAT.
Everybody that does a little more research about political stuff and world wide issues is a potential terrorist and can be sentenced without any lawsuit. The only way to escape is to hide. If you can't hide anymore, we're fucked and gonna meet a time of more slavery than ever before in this world.

**DrunkenArse** · 02-17-2011 12:33 PM

Originally Posted by Dthoughts

Because marijuana helps u open ur eyes. Makes you see the big picture of the world easier. It makes you dream better, it helps to stay in touch with reality. And it makes u realize how ur being controlled. That's why they spend millions of dollars tracking weed dealers.

wow man. ur like, deep or something. pass the spliff and the potato chips, yo? were totally gonna fix the world as soon as this episode of wildboyz is over. ur message is deep man. we gotta get it out there.

what was i just saying?

**Dthoughts** · 02-17-2011 12:34 PM

It's called a mirror.

**ClouD** · 02-17-2011 12:38 PM

Originally Posted by Dthoughts

The thing about this right to track everybody's every move is 'Terrorists" to the american government there are shit load of potential terrorists all over the world wich they are allowed to torture and kill if they choose to. Now they have the right to find me aswell? FUCK THAT.
Everybody that does a little more research about political stuff and world wide issues is a potential terrorist and can be sentenced without any lawsuit. The only way to escape is to hide. If you can't hide anymore, we're fucked and gonna meet a time of more slavery than ever before in this world.

Right. You sound like an idiot.

**DrunkenArse** · 02-17-2011 12:38 PM

never mind man, i forget. I love this ep man. its the one where pontius lets a robber crab pinch his ass. robber crabs are fuckin burly man. no fucking way id let one of those anywhere near my ass man. those guys are crazy!

**Dthoughts** · 02-17-2011 12:41 PM

I don't care that i sound like an idiot to you. Just when u stumble upon something weird remember what i said is true. however stupid it sounds.

**DrunkenArse** · 02-17-2011 12:45 PM

HEY MAN! Its puff puff PASS! And where did all the fucking chips go man?!

**Dthoughts** · 02-17-2011 12:47 PM

i'd smoke some but i just quit smoking cigarettes yesterday and i dont wanna go get some just to fabricate a blunt.

**ninja9578** · 02-17-2011 01:39 PM

Simply putting a no trespassing sign next to you driveway is sufficient to make it illegal for them to be in your driveway

**Spartiate** · 02-17-2011 07:01 PM

Everybody should have a moat and drawbridge.

**Alric** · 02-18-2011 01:22 AM

It is illegal for them to do it any way. You have to remember that the government always tries stuff like this, and they some times get away with it for a little while. Eventually however, it goes to the supreme court and they throw the law out as unconstitutional because its total bullshit. It will probably be a case where they did this and caught a criminal, and then he gets off free, all because the government is to damn lazy to do their job and get a warrant first.

**Jay12341235** · 02-18-2011 10:46 PM

Originally Posted by Oneironaut

They can takes it if they seize it, which is what they are doing. If I am growing weed in my back yard, the only way they can tax it if they do what they did with the guy in the article, by catching me in the act of growing, selling it.

Right. I'm talking getting a law passed to make it legal, not taxing this guy alone

**Dthoughts** · 03-09-2011 02:45 PM

YouTube - JFK telling us the 911 truth

5 min speech from JFK. Very powerful and very thought provoking to me.
The title says : JFK telling us the 911 truth . Wich is bullshit altho this might have some connections with 911 its simply irrelevant to the global scale of things anyway.

Remember people JFK got shot for telling the truth. There's no other motive in killing JFK.

**tommo** · 03-09-2011 03:58 PM

If it says JFK telling 911 truth, it's gonna be a crock of shit video, but I'll check it out anyway. JFK died like.... 50 years before 911.
(Honestly have no idea of correct number of years, but it's way before obviously).

**Dthoughts** · 03-09-2011 04:29 PM

Yeah whoever uploaded the video either doesn't understand there's not a direct relation between this speech and 9/11 or doesnt care. JFK's words are all that matters tho and they speak clearly of a seperate movement/force taking control that is out of his hands and needs to be stopped.

I believe it was Lincoln who shut down a fed bank of some sorts because he has foreseen slavery in debt and he did not want to allow it. Not long after tho this bank has been rebuild and i think its the bank of america. i dont remember.

If you don't believe the millions of people speaking out against authority , bankers and a world police state maybe you will believe these people because they are saying the exact same thing we are saying.

Here's a quote i found from lincoln trying to find the one about the banks ( i didnt find the quote but i know its somewhere )
This country, with its institutions, belongs to the people who inhabit it. Whenever they shall grow weary of the existing government, they can exercise their constitutional right of amending it, or their revolutionary right to dismember, or overthrow it.

**Nevik** · 03-11-2011 07:40 PM

I wasn't a big fan of this decision, but I'm glad it doesn't apply to my state (Florida). It is a horrible precedent to set though.

**nina** · 03-12-2011 12:03 AM

lmao I want to get high with philosopherstoned

**StonedApe** · 03-12-2011 05:58 AM

I'd love to have a dreamviews smoke session sometime

**HeritageDreamer** · 03-13-2011 02:02 AM

I live in Canada. All new phones sold have GPS in them that can be accessed by emergency services at any time. This includes police. I see how this can be an invasion of privacy. Fortunately (as long as I have my cell phone) if I go missing the police can pinpoint where I am within a 2 meter radius.

I find it odd and unlikely that GPS can be put on cars without some sort of warrant. The article did not mention whether this can be done without a warrant. If someone were to put a GPS on my car they would get very bored as they watch me go from my apartment to my mom's to the grocery store to the gym.

**StonedApe** · 03-13-2011 05:07 AM

Actually, I could be wrong, but I think the article said that the government can do this without a warrant at least in california. The might get bored watching you but they can harass marihuana growers which pisses me off, a lot. It's a fucking plant people, this is the year 2010, why is a plant that has been legal for thousands of years all the sudden against the law. Oh wait, I forgot, the government is racist.

**Dustndawind** · 03-13-2011 04:29 PM

It 2010! WOW! I MUST HAVE TRAVELED BACK IN TIME!!!

1) Harass marijuana growers; It's still an illegal substance. As long as it is illegal they will "harass" growers. If you partake in an illegal activity, you shouldn't get pissed off when the police try to stop you; they're doing their jobs.
2)Its a fucking plant people; indeed it is, I salute you in knowing the difference between a plant and an animal. Either way, its still illegal. I have a tiger.
3) Its 2011, if you put that bong down once and a while you may have known that.
4) Thousands of years; really!! Thats amazing, its kinda like how dueling was legal for "thousands" of years and "all of the sudden its against the law". Laws are made to better our lives (for the most part).
5) The government is racist: I do not agree or disagree with this, but how is the fact that marijuana is illegal racist? It is more of an economic ploy, not a racial tool.

Privacy is a wonderful thing, but we must all give up some of our privacy to make our world safe for all. If you have nothing to hide there shouldn't be any issues; if you do have something to hide, its people like you that are causing things like this to happen.

**DrunkenArse** · 03-13-2011 08:36 PM

Originally Posted by Dustndawind

It 2010! WOW! I MUST HAVE TRAVELED BACK IN TIME!!!

You're seriously harshing my mellow man. I had to check a calendar.

1) Harass marijuana growers; It's still an illegal substance. As long as it is illegal they will "harass" growers. If you partake in an illegal activity, you shouldn't get pissed off when the police try to stop you; they're doing their jobs.

Unless of course it's a stupid fucking law to begin with. See below.

2)Its a fucking plant people; indeed it is, I salute you in knowing the difference between a plant and an animal. Either way, its still illegal. I have a tiger.

I hope by "have" a tiger, you don't mean "own" one. Because you're deluded. You can't "own" another sentient being. How exactly do you propose providing a suitable habitat for an organism the size of a tiger? How much territory does one require to feel that it's living a meaningful life? How much food does one require? A plant however lacks the central nervous system that is necessary and (in my opinion) sufficient to be regarded as sentient. So I can grow a roomful of plants without causing them any suffering whatsoever.

3) Its 2011, if you put that bong down once and a while you may have known that.

Again man, you're seriously confusing me here. I don't know who to believe now.

4) Thousands of years; really!! Thats amazing, its kinda like how dueling was legal for "thousands" of years and "all of the sudden its against the law". Laws are made to better our lives (for the most part).

No, laws are, in principle, made to preserve a coherent state. This law was made to protect various industries from the competition that hemp would have brought onto the scene.

5) The government is racist: I do not agree or disagree with this, but how is the fact that marijuana is illegal racist? It is more of an economic ploy, not a racial tool.

I vaguely agree with you here. The government took advantage the populations racism and got the law passed. The point was primarily economic. It's a nitpick though. Only a racist government would do that.

Privacy is a wonderful thing, but we must all give up some of our privacy to make our world safe for all. If you have nothing to hide there shouldn't be any issues; if you do have something to hide, its people like you that are causing things like this to happen.

The problem with this line of thinking is that there is a difference between having something to hide because I'm going to bring violence upon other people and having something to hide because I don't want the government to kidnap me and steal my crop. So no, it's not people like me (caveat: It's been a few years since I've grown) that cause these things to happen. It's a broken and unjust law and the people that blindly support it without educating themselves enough to know just how broken it is. I guess that would be people like you...

**Dustndawind** · 03-14-2011 12:52 AM

How does one truly "own" an animal, they are free spirits. One can contain them, but in reality they are an entity of their own and do not have a true owner. As you can tell by the flag beside my username I am Canadian. Meaning that I live in a modern country. As in any modern country having an animal such as a tiger is illegal, unless you have to proper training, skills and certifications to house and take care of such an animal. This was a hyperbole; I am glad to see you took is as such. As for the date, if we were still in January I could see mistaking the year for 2010, however we are almost a quarter way through the year, this should be enough time for you to memorize the date. I hope you understand what a quarter is, I assume that being a former grower you would sell it by the quarter often enough. As for laws, they come and go, reasons are dependent on the current time and situation. You state "having something to hide because I don't want the government to kidnap me and steal my crop", which would be a legitimate concern, except for the fact that your "crop" is still, for the time being illegal. I am neither for or against legalization; I see many benefits, but also many draw backs. If you find the laws unjust, there are ways to change them, legal ways. I still stand by what I said; if you have nothing to hide, you should not worry, if you do have something to hide, its people like you that are causing things like this to happen.