Thread: Osama Bin Laden is Dead

Originally Posted by Xei

You did what now?

lol!

New U.S. Account Says Bin Laden Was Unarmed During Raid - NYTimes.com

Bin Laden 'was unarmed' when shot dead - Americas - Al Jazeera English

Osama bin Laden resisted assault but was unarmed, U.S. officials say - The Washington Post

apparently a photo will be made public

Do you think that they were psychotherapists or just "Get rid of the evidence and say that it is because.... we don't want other terrorists... or some kind of Martyrdom.... or....just do it."

Isn't it a war crime to shoot someone who is unarmed?

Originally Posted by Dannon Oneironaut

I've been thinking and dreaming about this. Last night I had a dream that I caught up with Barack Obama and he asked me how I felt now that Bin Laden is dead. I told him that I knew that he had been dead for years. Obama got nervous and I could tell he was thinking "You are not supposed to know that" but he just chuckled and told me he would talk to me later and got up and left. I followed him into a hotel where I got distracted by his wife. But on the TV was the news from the future and there was a crazy terrorist attack in Europe. I think that this is the beginning of a whole new chapter. I think that something even more crazy is going to happen. Something that will be an excuse for martial law? Something the intelligence community already knows is going to happen. Yes, conspiracy theory, but I have seen this before. I think that another giant terrorist attack is probable. It reminds me of what the Tibetans said that I posted in another thread. I would check out wiki-leaks. That is what I am going to do. I will be back.

Just quoting this so I can check it at a later date.

Didn't I say the wife-shield was total BS? How many times are they gonna change the story I wonder. Btw I do not believe they actually dumped him in the sea. He's chilling in a top secret locker somewhere next to some frozen aliens. This IS the government we're talking about people. Are they likely to just get rid of his body like that? Somehow, I really don't think so.

Because Osama's body will prove very useful for secret and sinister scientific experiments.

I'm not sure the US was the source of the wife thing. I know they said that a female was intentionally in the line of fire.

Originally Posted by tommo

Isn't it a war crime to shoot someone who is unarmed?

I believe war crimes are mass atrocities such as genocides or systematic killing of civilians.

Isn't it a war crime to shoot someone who is unarmed?

To my knowledge, it's a war crime to shoot a military unit who is "hors de combat" (incapable of combat), which includes POWs, soldiers unable to defend themselves (due to wounds, unconsciousness, ejected fighter pilots, etc.), and those attempting to surrender.

Though as an unlawful combatant, Bin Laden would have had minimal protection under the Geneva Conventions and wouldn't qualify for POW status. If he specifically refused to surrender then it's arguable that he was a valid military target, though equally one could argue that he was incapable of defending himself and could have been restrained.

You can attack unarmed military targets that are potentially capable of defending themselves, providing they are valid targets.

Incidentally, taking human shields is also a war crime.

Originally Posted by Xei

I believe war crimes are mass atrocities such as genocides or systematic killing of civilians.

*(disagreement in the form of a sarcastic insult, since that is the only language Xei seems to speak)*

Originally Posted by sloth

*(disagreement in the form of a sarcastic insult, since that is the only language Xei seems to speak)*

that and philosopher8247 or whatever his numbers are.

Originally Posted by Artelis

that and philosopher8247 or whatever his numbers are.

C'mon guys let's not get divided based on politics

Originally Posted by Atras

C'mon guys let's not get divided based on politics

Has nothing to do with this thread. Has everything to do with the forum personalities.

edit: also yes, this is silly.

After, not during - Ben Smith - POLITICO.com

Originally Posted by sloth

*(disagreement in the form of a sarcastic insult, since that is the only language Xei seems to speak)*

I also cite a reason for disagreement.

I love you guys.

Yeah this thread is getting a little crazy. Shooting Bin Laden was a decision already made regardless of whether or not he was armed. Considering he's responsible for about 3,000 lives lost on 9/11 by having his buddies fly airplanes into some of the worlds tallest buildings, I could honestly give a rats ass about shooting this man unarmed (IMO). They also had to consider the possibility of him getting away.

About dumping his body, I'm not even going to get into because none of us seem to know for sure.

Originally Posted by Photolysis

To my knowledge, it's a war crime to shoot a military unit who is "hors de combat" (incapable of combat), which includes POWs, soldiers unable to defend themselves (due to wounds, unconsciousness, ejected fighter pilots, etc.), and those attempting to surrender.

Though as an unlawful combatant, Bin Laden would have had minimal protection under the Geneva Conventions and wouldn't qualify for POW status. If he specifically refused to surrender then it's arguable that he was a valid military target, though equally one could argue that he was incapable of defending himself and could have been restrained.

You can attack unarmed military targets that are potentially capable of defending themselves, providing they are valid targets.

Incidentally, taking human shields is also a war crime.

It's kind of ironic that the acronym for Prisoner Of War is POW

Pakinstan now pulling even more unbelievable shit by blaming the rest of the world for failing to find Bin Laden. This being the country where Bin Laden was hiding in a massive fuck-off concrete bunker next to their fucking military academy.

I feel some mass hatred towards Pakistan coming on.

True; that's why they should do themselves a favour and stop making utterly imbecilic statements like the above.

A good, balanced article about the White House's actions in particular from the BBC's US correspondent Mark Mardell:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereport...e_has_had.html

Originally Posted by Aquanina

Didn't I say the wife-shield was total BS? How many times are they gonna change the story I wonder. Btw I do not believe they actually dumped him in the sea. He's chilling in a top secret locker somewhere next to some frozen aliens. This IS the government we're talking about people. Are they likely to just get rid of his body like that? Somehow, I really don't think so.

Or maybe they never even killed him in the first place. They could have just taken him hostage and told everyone they killed him and dumped his body. He could be in some prison somewhere being tortured.

Originally Posted by Xei

Pakinstan now pulling even more unbelievable shit by blaming the rest of the world for failing to find Bin Laden. This being the country where Bin Laden was hiding in a massive fuck-off concrete bunker next to their fucking military academy.

He didn't even buy his mansion, he had it built for him. I mean it's not like he would have signed his name of the check, but still.

Originally Posted by Xei

True; that's why they should do themselves a favour and stop making utterly imbecilic statements like the above.

Or how about you just have a nice big mug of chamomile tea and chill the fuck out.

Originally Posted by tommo

Or how about you just have a nice big mug of chamomile tea and chill the fuck out.

It doesn't bother you that our supposed ally was harbouring the most dangerous man in the world?