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      NYPD Holds a girl for two days on fake charges

      More PR nightmares for the NYPD

      New York City cop imprisons college student without ID for two days | The Lookout - Yahoo! News

      They held a girl and verbally abused her for two days on a phony trespassing charge. The cop has been described as having a short fuse. Shame that a few bad cops are giving the entire force a bad name. Why are the NYPD not dealing with problems like this?

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      They don't punish the officers who are caught doing things. Tony Bologna lost 10 days vacation after assaulting two women with pepper spray, I don't think the cop who admitted to planting drugs got anything, nor did this guy. By dealing with bad cops, I mean firing bad cops. Everyone can have a bad day, but these people are repeat offenders. A hand full of bad cops makes the entire NYPD look bad.
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      Quote Originally Posted by ninja9578 View Post
      They don't punish the officers who are caught doing things. Tony Bologna lost 10 days vacation after assaulting two women with pepper spray, I don't think the cop who admitted to planting drugs got anything, nor did this guy. By dealing with bad cops, I mean firing bad cops. Everyone can have a bad day, but these people are repeat offenders. A hand full of bad cops makes the entire NYPD look bad.
      Pepper-spraying innocents, planting drugs or imprisoning people for two days on phony charges isn't something I could have forgiven because someone had a "bad day", even if that was the first time...
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      Not to mention, failing to punish these officers incriminates the NYPD administration.
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      Quote Originally Posted by khh View Post
      Pepper-spraying innocents, planting drugs or imprisoning people for two days on phony charges isn't something I could have forgiven because someone had a "bad day", even if that was the first time...
      Was going to say this as well. A bad day excuses yelling at someone or punching a wall. Not falsely imprisoning someone or pepper-spraying them. Planting drugs takes even more pre-planning and therefore one would have enough time to cool down, so it takes either someone who can't do that, or someone who is just a fuckwit.

      Quote Originally Posted by Supernova View Post
      Not to mention, failing to punish these officers incriminates the NYPD administration.
      Mmmmmhm, too bad no one's watching them.

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      It's legal to detain someone for 48 hours without charging them with a crime. It is a shame. It's kidnapping, pure and simple.
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      Quote Originally Posted by Laughing Man View Post
      It's legal to detain someone for 48 hours without charging them with a crime. It is a shame. It's kidnapping, pure and simple.
      It also keeps dangerous offenders off the streets while evidence can be gathered to charge them. It's only 48 hours, not the end of the world...

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      What if you're the one man who could stop the end of the world? Then it would be.

      Seriously though, I'm not sure about it. There's good points to both sides of the argument tbh.
      Yeah they can take two days of your life away, for no reason. But they could also stop someone from killing someone else, or any number of things.
      But then they could also stop even more killing or whatever if they could hold you for weeks on end with no evidence. So I'm not sure it's a good enough argument.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Laughing Man View Post
      It's legal to detain someone for 48 hours without charging them with a crime. It is a shame. It's kidnapping, pure and simple.
      Yeah, but they knew they weren't gathering evidence. The cop knew it was a phony charge.

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      Quote Originally Posted by tommo View Post
      What if you're the one man who could stop the end of the world? Then it would be.

      Seriously though, I'm not sure about it. There's good points to both sides of the argument tbh.
      Yeah they can take two days of your life away, for no reason. But they could also stop someone from killing someone else, or any number of things.
      But then they could also stop even more killing or whatever if they could hold you for weeks on end with no evidence. So I'm not sure it's a good enough argument.
      Like a lot of things, it's a good policy that can be abused.

      Like, how about some sort of penalty for the arresting officer if no (or insufficient) evidence has been obtained by the end of the 48 hours?

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      Quote Originally Posted by Supernova View Post
      Like a lot of things, it's a good policy that can be abused.

      Like, how about some sort of penalty for the arresting officer if no (or insufficient) evidence has been obtained by the end of the 48 hours?
      I feel like this would do more bad than good. It would lead bad cops to fabricate more false evidence in order to save their asses while further ruining the lives of innocent people. I understand your suggestion was merely an example but what I think really needs to be done is for the cops like this who know the charges are false to be punished with falsifying evidence and getting fired or something. Your suggestion is akin to quotas in that officers are required to meet certain criteria which leads to more "cheating", and cheating just hurts innocent people.
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      Quote Originally Posted by Spartiate View Post
      It also keeps dangerous offenders off the streets while evidence can be gathered to charge them. It's only 48 hours, not the end of the world...
      Innocent until proven guilty.
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      Quote Originally Posted by ninja9578 View Post
      Yeah, but they knew they weren't gathering evidence. The cop knew it was a phony charge.
      Yea that is why I said it was kidnapping.

      "kidnapping is the taking away or transportation of a person against that person's will, usually to hold the person in false imprisonment, a confinement without legal authority. "
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