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It seems to me he actually cares. I'm sure the money could/should be taken from elsewhere. This is all still very ambiguous to me, why has no one actually stated specific events like I've asked and only attacked me with what seems like, as far as I can tell, dogmatic faith. |
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Last edited by Wayfaerer; 01-07-2012 at 10:14 PM.
What events would you propose I show you? |
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Everything works out in the end, sometimes even badly.
Ron Paul wants to get rid of the department of education, and get the federal government out of education. Instead he wants education to be ran on the state level. Big government bureaucracy doesn't really help education and we seen this in recent years. As the federal government has spent more and more money trying to fix education, and there hasn't been any results. They are just wasting the money. Which is why Paul wants to make it a state level issue. At the state level people are directly accountable to people living in their state, and things work a lot better. |
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Don't, vote for who you want to vote for. I'll research it more to make my decision, I'm obviously getting nothing but "Suck Ron Paul's d**k or your stupid" here. However, I do not know how much consideration I will take to such an argument when researching. |
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You might want to read a little Ayn Rand to better understand Ron Paul. He named his son Rand. His son is a Tea Party favorite. His son is campaigning with him. |
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I was talking about how much he emphasizes his belief in the Christian God, which makes me doubt his reasoning skills and values all together. It doesn't even seem very possible that he states his belief for the minimal required show to avoid an "atheist president" controversy, it actually sounds like he believes it. He also claims to be "an unshakable foe of abortion". |
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The difference is Ron Paul's personal views have never affected his policy, while every other politician's policy is directly affected by their personal beliefs and agendas and not on what they believe is the purpose of the law. |
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Everything works out in the end, sometimes even badly.
Last edited by BLUELINE976; 01-07-2012 at 10:51 PM.
The worst thing that can happen to a good cause is, not to be skillfully attacked, but to be ineptly defended. - Frédéric Bastiat
I try to deny myself any illusions or delusions, and I think that this perhaps entitles me to try and deny the same to others, at least as long as they refuse to keep their fantasies to themselves. - Christopher Hitchens
Formerly known as BLUELINE976
Ron Paul doesn't actually talk about religion at all. When asked a direct question about his religion, he does answer and say that yes he is a Christian. Other than that however, he doesn't talk about his religion and doesn't bring it up. I don't know why you think he tries to emphasizes it since it is basically a non issue as far as he is concerned, and he doesn't feel it has any place in government. |
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The worst thing that can happen to a good cause is, not to be skillfully attacked, but to be ineptly defended. - Frédéric Bastiat
I try to deny myself any illusions or delusions, and I think that this perhaps entitles me to try and deny the same to others, at least as long as they refuse to keep their fantasies to themselves. - Christopher Hitchens
Formerly known as BLUELINE976
Ron Paul does not promote a Christian Agenda just because he's Christian. When a politician says they want to protect the sanctity of marriage, they're just dishing out a load of crap to disguise what they're really saying which is "I want support from Christian Voters even if it means promoting ideas that are contrary to the Constitution." |
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Everything works out in the end, sometimes even badly.
I've seen him unnecessarily bring up God. Anyway, I'm done with this for now, specific comparisons on specific issues to read about would be greatly appreciated. |
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I've never seen him invoke God... |
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The worst thing that can happen to a good cause is, not to be skillfully attacked, but to be ineptly defended. - Frédéric Bastiat
I try to deny myself any illusions or delusions, and I think that this perhaps entitles me to try and deny the same to others, at least as long as they refuse to keep their fantasies to themselves. - Christopher Hitchens
Formerly known as BLUELINE976
There are so many issues that we expect our representatives to fix or have a position for. How can one person please any other person completely? I love Ron Paul's political views on proper place for the federal government. I love his views on the constituion, and I trust that he is a man of his word, unlike Obama. Obama duped us. However, I do have a feeling that if Ron Paul is president we will see lots of offshore oil drilling, oil spills, clearcutting the last of our forests out west, etc. Our environment will suffer. He believes in limiting the power of the federal government which is good news considering our civil rights and liberties, but it is bad news for the environment. The reason that the Tea Party and Radical Christians like him is because they are most centered in Dixie, in the South. If you look at history you find that the South seceded from the Union because of the issue of State rights and the federal government infringing on State's rights. Unfortunately we are taught that it was only because of the issue of slavery. Now unfortunately historically this issue is entwined with racial issues and the ugly specter of slavery. But just because some racist christians nostalgic for the old days support Ron Paul doesn't mean that Ron Paul has those views. But I have heard that he is racist also, I will have to research that more. Now so I have to consider which is more important to me: the freedom of our overpopulated human species AND the multinational corporations, or the freedom and health of the environment and our nonhuman brothers. |
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Obama: Hypocrite, liar, elitist, smarmy politician |
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Everything works out in the end, sometimes even badly.
You say you'll vote for Obama because he's the safer choice, whatever that means. Ron Paul is the only libertarian candidate with any kind of chance. I don't really see how it's out of context. |
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Last edited by StonedApe; 01-07-2012 at 11:21 PM.
157 is a prime number. The next prime is 163 and the previous prime is 151, which with 157 form a sexy prime triplet. Taking the arithmetic mean of those primes yields 157, thus it is a balanced prime.
Women and rhythm section first - Jaco Pastorious
He promised to close Guantanamo but of course he made it bigger. He gave, what?, $14 trillion to the banks who ripped us off. He borrowed it from the federal reserve, thus causing way more inflation and making every human poorer and the banks richer. He signed some food safety bill that has been in effect for a year making it illegal to save seeds to grow your own food in a garden. He has redefined the definition of terrorist so now if you are "hording" food you can now be considered a terrorist. He has allowed genetically modified organisms to be labeled organic by the FDA. He has authorized that anybody, even americans, can be assassinated and/or arrested with no charge, no right to a lawyer, no trial, no trace. He has done nothing for making alternative sources of energy available. He has consistently sided with centralized power, corruption, making power even more centralized and corrupt. Ron Paul is for decentralization of power, which is our hope for freedom. |
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Dannon, do you think that we should just not vote then? I'm on the fence but I usually end up voting. I'm voting for Paul mainly because the more support he gets the more people hear about libertarian ideas. Also less people will die if he wins, though that seems pretty much impossible. The republicans won't endorse someone who goes against the military industrial complex so I don't see how he can get their nomination. Without a nomination you can't win... |
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157 is a prime number. The next prime is 163 and the previous prime is 151, which with 157 form a sexy prime triplet. Taking the arithmetic mean of those primes yields 157, thus it is a balanced prime.
Women and rhythm section first - Jaco Pastorious
I liked your post until I saw your link. Now I dislike it. What did I just read? Obama really cared before the Illuminati got to him? If Ron Paul posed a real threat they'd do brain surgery on him like Paul McCartney? Wikileaks and Anonymous are CIA infiltrated Inside Jobs? |
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Last edited by Omnis Dei; 01-07-2012 at 11:55 PM.
Everything works out in the end, sometimes even badly.
That's not really how he acts. The constitution didn't descend from the heavens as some kind of objective standard. He votes with the constitution because his philosophical views are in line with the constitution. If the constitution prohibited free speech presumably his view would be to oppose it. |
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