Thread: Was Sandy Hook a Hoax?

Why do most people automatically assume governments never conspire to corruption, in spite of all the historical evidence to the contrary?

If someone can point out someplace where the various questions have been answered effectively then there would be no need for a conversation like this. So far I see a lot more questions than answers, and I also see suspicious patterns in a lot of recent tragedies and atrocities where the government seems to basically just say "Stop looking into it - there's nothing to see there" and yet fails to prove it. It's becoming increasingly clear this administration is involved in a lot of deeply corrupt goings-on. We don't yet know the extent of them, so I think it's a very good idea to keep asking such questions.

And what's really surprising is the number of people who just seem to be saying "oh come on - you know governments don't do bad things!"

What's wrong with inquiring into the facts, especially if they don't seem to add up? Should the government always be exempt form suspicion in every case, with no investigation?

I'd like to point out the difference between "conspiracy" and "conspiracy theory." Conspiracies happen in the real world, and often we find out about them. No one can deny that.

Conspiracy theories, on the other hand, never come to fruition and are never rigorously verified. What few factoids are involved, they are diluted by sloppy logic, confirmation bias, poor research, and paranoia. Conspiracy theories are homeopathic.

Originally Posted by Darkmatters

Why do most people automatically assume governments never conspire to corruption, in spite of all the historical evidence to the contrary?

If someone can point out someplace where the various questions have been answered effectively then there would be no need for a conversation like this. So far I see a lot more questions than answers, and I also see suspicious patterns in a lot of recent tragedies and atrocities where the government seems to basically just say "Stop looking into it - there's nothing to see there" and yet fails to prove it. It's becoming increasingly clear this administration is involved in a lot of deeply corrupt goings-on. We don't yet know the extent of them, so I think it's a very good idea to keep asking such questions.

And what's really surprising is the number of people who just seem to be saying "oh come on - you know governments don't do bad things!"

What's wrong with inquiring into the facts, especially if they don't seem to add up? Should the government always be exempt form suspicion in every case, with no investigation?

No, I'm not saying that the government is completely innocent and never does anything wrong. But you can't blame every bad thing that happens on the government. I've heard all the 9/11 conspiracy theories and now people are saying the shooting and Boston bombing were also done by the government.

Originally Posted by Woodstock

No, I'm not saying that the government is completely innocent and never does anything wrong. But you can't blame every bad thing that happens on the government. I've heard all the 9/11 conspiracy theories and now people are saying the shooting and Boston bombing were also done by the government.

I know you didn't address that to me, but I want to chime in. I don't claim to know that the government did any of that stuff, but there is craziness that has not been explained. You can look at old threads here and see how much I argued against the 9/11 inside job claims. I don't think college students on the internet understand skyscraper engineering better than the engineering world, who scoff at the engineering claims. I don't think the airplanes were remote control, and I don't think the government would have bothered with airplanes if they used bombs to blow up the buildings. But might the government have used Bin Laden to get terrorists to hijack airplanes and crash them into major U.S. buildings? My view at this point is that it's possible but not proven. I say the same about the existence of the Illuminati. However, I know with complete certainty that all of these tragedies have been used by the government to argue for major government expansion and the trampling of civil liberties. That we do know.