Thread: Catastrophic Failure of Earth Within the Lifetime of Someone Alive Today!?

Originally Posted by Darkmatters

1. Funny, but climate scientists don't agree with you on that:
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1. Actually, very few don't agree. Refer back to my earlier comments regarding the overwhelming 97% figure. 2. Video: Simple dog and pony show. It even featured a corny empty chair gag. You will always be able to find a few scientists that will say that there is nothing to worry about...keep on pumping toxins into the environment...the Earth can take it.

Originally Posted by cmind

1) The EPA person was literally an alarmist. Even the people in the newsroom were worried about how cooky he sounded.

2) The show itself is probably the most liberally biased show on television today. You will not find a more slanted view of the world than that of the writers of that show.

B. As for your fears about the world ending due to climate change...you're going to feel really, really stupid in a few years when you're a little older and you realize that nothing happened. Believe me, when I was younger I was totally on board with it. The film An Inconvenient Truth had just come out, and I was convinced that the world would end very soon. And then nothing happened, and I felt silly to say the least.

1. There were some looks of "he must be joking" but after he held is ground with further statements and facts most of the people were portrayed with a look of worry or fear. Either way, it is just how the episode portrayed reactions. 2. Perhaps somewhere between the liberal portrayals and the Inhofe's of the world we will all realize the truth. Just look at the picture in my signature or search "Air pollution in Beijing" to get an idea of how man is affecting our environment - and that is just one aspect - I have other examples.
B. I am not expecting this to happen "very soon" but rather "within the lifetime of someone alive today" as stated in the title of the OP. There is almost surely someone that was born today that will live to over 100 years of age. That is more along the lines of the time period I am seriously considering this becoming a reality within.

Originally Posted by Darkmatters

1. The problem with this whole thing is that it's all prediction - we have a pretty dismal track record for that...

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It's clear what we have is a big indecipherable mishmash - it's pretty well impossible to tell what's really going on. What we do have for sure is a very extreme prediction of melting ice caps, and that's the part this thread is concerned with. 3. Most likely scenario as I see it (in my completely unscientific way) as I said before, it warms for a while, maybe we get some polar melt, and then the trend again reverses itself as it has throughout all of time.

4. If you look at a lot of sources you'll find plenty of dissenting opinions from good reputable scientists...

1. There is an alarming amount of evidence. Sure it is a prediction, but there is a good track record for predictions that are backed up by a preponderance of evidence and 97% consensus. Here's a prediction: at least 97% of the people who put a fully loaded gun to their head and pull the trigger are going to die. Yes I am being a bit flippant...and regarding your reasonable doubt analogy...I would hardly consider 3% as reasonable doubt especially when the 3% can be cross-examined and shown to be unreliable witnesses (versus 97% supporting proof of climate change) 2. climate change deniers will try to convince you of this mishmash the same way opponents of legitimate propositions every election cycle will introduce a mishmash of deliberately deceiving information to confuse the voters to not support a particular proposition. One side stands on facts and scientific proof, the other hides behind smoke and mirrors. Lobbyist Richard Berman was secretly recorded giving a presentation to energy executives revealing a lot of their dirty tricks. Just google it.

Well, time for me to focus on lucid dreaming for the rest of the night. Nice dreams to all...even those who don't agree with me.

Sure, there's plenty of evidence for some parts of it - and I don't deny any of them. I'm just not worried about the destruction of civilization from polar melt. Could it happen - of course! The rather extreme sounding prediction might actually turn out to be right - it happens sometimes. Any number of other extreme predictions might also turn out to be true, or maybe something we never even thought about will destroy civilization before any of it gets a chance to happen. So I choose not to worry about all these predictions - that's all I'm saying.