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      Large Number of Ukraine Servicemen Unwilling to Fight, Refuse to Obey Orders of Kiev Regime

      Large Number of Ukraine Servicemen Unwilling to Fight, Refuse to Obey Orders of Kiev Regime

      By Global Research News

      Global Research, July 29, 2014

      Large Number of Ukraine Servicemen Unwilling to Fight, Refuse to Obey Orders of Kiev Regime | Global Research

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      The Shrinking Cauldron – The Surrender of the 72nd Brigade

      Posted by Gleb Bazov ⋅ August 4, 2014

      The Shrinking Cauldron – The Surrender of the 72nd Brigade | SLAVYANGRAD.org
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      August 04, 2014
      More than 400 Ukrainian troops have been allowed to cross into Russia after requesting sanctuary. It’s the largest, but not the first, case of desertion into Russia by Ukrainian soldiers involved in Kiev’s military crackdown in the east of the country.

      Ukraine. | Slavic Nationalist Forum

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      Antiwar Protests Spreading in Ukraine as Government Wages All-Out War in the Southeast
      August 3 2014

      The protests are paralleled by a rise in Ukraine army desertions and refusals of men and women to heed conscription orders.
      Army in trouble

      Exact numbers of army desertions are not known and are the subject of considerable debate and counter-debate. This website report, for example, publishes a purported Ukraine army report saying that close to 3,500 soldiers deserted in the third week of July and that 1,600 soldiers died and 4,700 were wounded in that same time. Sources in Russia say the documents it cites are not authentic.

      Underground Serbian Cafe: Antiwar Protests Spreading in Ukraine as Government Wages All-Out War in the Southeast

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      Captured Kiev soldiers, military hardware on display in Donetsk
      August 25 2014



      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tb5n...O6EbykFaB4wQZD

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      Pictures of victims died from their own government force. News censored by West main stream media.

      Our ‘Enemies’ in Ukraine Speak

      By Eric Zuesse

      Global Research, August 22, 2014

      America’s ‘news’ media do not let the victims of Ukraine’s civil war — the people who are dying and being driven out from the southeastern regions of that country by the new Ukrainian Government — speak, and tell their story.

      Our ‘Enemies’ in Ukraine Speak | Global Research

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      Russian NGOs demand investigation of massacres near Ukraine's Donetsk

      September 24,
      Many of the victims are said to have been shot in the head at point-blank range

      MOSCOW, September 24. /ITAR-TASS/. Russian non-governmental organizations are demanding a comprehensive investigation of the mass graves containing bodies of civilians near Donetsk. Local militias found the graves on September 23. Many of the victims are said to have been shot in the head at point-blank range. Just two days ago that territory had been under the control of Kiev’s forces. Now it will be explored most thoroughly. Militias say they have discovered other graves, too, which will remain unexcavated for the time being.

      ITAR-TASS: World - Russian NGOs demand investigation of massacres near Ukraine's Donetsk

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      By allowing katsung47 to peddle his pro-Putin propaganda you risk opening Pandora's box and you could surely end up with a site remarkably like Youtube with it's pro/anti orcs. Where are you coming from Dream Views? I remember reading that the Russians once hacked this site...please tell me they're not still involved.
      Not a word here about the dead Russian soldiers being covertly shipped back home and buried..and all those who protest and inquire are threatened..and the families are left shattered and uninformed. This is one-sided crap and propaganda and I protest, Why are you allowing this...how does this advance Dream Views (which I, maybe in my ignorance, thought was a far more spiritual and Buddhist-like institution. For shame....this should be removed
      If the World didn't suck we'd all fall off.

      We are going through the eye of the needle; make sure you leave what you don't need behind. (Terence Mckenna 1946-2000)

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      Quote Originally Posted by LukeSid View Post
      Why are you allowing this..
      He keeps his posts contained to his threads, and the rest of us ignore them. No damage is done.

      Relax.

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      Quote Originally Posted by GavinGill View Post
      He keeps his posts contained to his threads, and the rest of us ignore them. No damage is done.

      Relax.
      Yeah why don't we all "relax"...and we could play our fiddles and watch the bonfire together. What's the point of moderators when that sort of poison is allowed to infect this site. Tell you what...let's find a member of ISIS and, provided he's lucid, let's allow him to peddle extreme Islam and we can all "relax" as we ignore him as well. Sorry chums...this is not the site I thought it was. I'm off again...I won't be missed because I'm small fry in the dream scheme and I'll plod on with my puny effects This type of "relaxing" is basically "daytime dreaming" and maybe you should all wake up and do some real reality checks
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      We are going through the eye of the needle; make sure you leave what you don't need behind. (Terence Mckenna 1946-2000)

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      Quote Originally Posted by LukeSid View Post
      Sorry chums...this is not the site I thought it was. I'm off again...I won't be missed because I'm small fry in the dream scheme and I'll plod on with my puny effects This type of "relaxing" is basically "daytime dreaming" and maybe you should all wake up and do some real reality checks
      I think a lot of people probably share your sentiments and have gone to look elsewhere perhaps which is a shame.
      I know I do.

      I guess it is about making money, period... even though links to other 'commercial' lucid dream sites is not allowed.

      Take care & all the best in your future endeavours Luke Sid.

      You will be missed.
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      Quote Originally Posted by LukeSid View Post
      Yeah why don't we all "relax"...and we could play our fiddles and watch the bonfire together. What's the point of moderators when that sort of poison is allowed to infect this site. Tell you what...let's find a member of ISIS and, provided he's lucid, let's allow him to peddle extreme Islam and we can all "relax" as we ignore him as well. Sorry chums...this is not the site I thought it was. I'm off again...I won't be missed because I'm small fry in the dream scheme and I'll plod on with my puny effects This type of "relaxing" is basically "daytime dreaming" and maybe you should all wake up and do some real reality checks
      That was very deep, son. You've really opened up my chakras...

      The moderators are meant to enforce the rules, not to push/suppress any ideology or political view. katsung has his views, and as long as he remains civil, he's free to express them. Anyone who disagrees with those views is free to challenge and debate them to their heart's content. We've had people from all walks of life grace this forum - from homosexuals to homophobes, from Zionists to anti-Semites, from Canadians to the barbarian tribes of America, etc - and not once has it ever been a problem. When there's a disagreement, we sort it out through civil discussion, not by panicking and banning everyone we don't like. We're not children.

      Quote Originally Posted by LukeSid View Post
      Why are you allowing this... I thought was a far more spiritual and Buddhist-like institution.

      For shame....this should be removed
      Learning to be tolerant of others is an integral part of Buddhism.

      Let this be your first lesson, grasshopper.
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      LukeSid, there are many controvercial issues being discussed on DV and staff won't take a thread down because someone, themselves including agrees or disagrees with a certain opinion unless it violates the rules. Everyone here comes from a different background, has different views regarding religion, sexuality, politics, nationalism, etc. While this is a site for ld, you know we have off topic sections where these things can be freely discussed. If you strongly disagree with something, you can express your opinion and share your point of view with others, or just ignore it.
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      Someone hates my comment because that's not their favorite. Instead of debate they suggest censorship or by sticking a lable. It only proves what I said are truth. They are afraid of it.

      This reminds me of the following news. They broke the rule to lend money to Ukraine because it is their puppet. They always have two standards like what Lukelid behaves here.

      Losing Credibility: The IMF’s New Cold War Loan to Ukraine

      September 9, 2014

      By Michael Hudson

      In April 2014, fresh from riots in Maidan Square and the February 22 coup, and less than a month before the May 2 massacre in Odessa, the IMF approved a $17 billion loan program to Ukraine’s junta. Normal IMF practice is to lend only up to twice a country’s quote in one year. This was eight times as high.

      Four months later, on August 29, just as Kiev began losing its attempt at ethnic cleansing against the eastern Donbas region, the IMF signed off on the first loan ever to a side engaged in a civil war, not to mention rife with insider capital flight and a collapsing balance of payments. Based on fictitiously trouble-free projections of the ability to pay, the loan supported Ukraine’s hernia currency long enough to enable the oligarchs’ banks to move their money quickly into Western hard-currency accounts before the hernia plunged further and was worth even fewer euros and dollars.

      http://michael-hudson.com/2014/09/lo...an-to-ukraine/
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      The I.M.F. has identified a $15bn shortfall in its bailout for war-torn Ukraine. The gap need to be filled within weeks to avoid financial collapse.

      G. Osborne, the UK finance minister, saying the EU was now asking for help from Russia at the same time it was sanctioning the Kremlin for its actions in Ukraine.


      IMF warns Ukraine bailout at risk of collapse

      December 9, 2014 7:27 pm
      Peter Spiegel in Brussels and Roman Olearchyk in Kiev


      http://www.ft.com/intl/cms/s/0/9a3ef...#axzz3MBp60HiF

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      U.S. to back $2 billion in loan guarantees for Ukraine

      WASHINGTON Tue Jan 13,

      (Reuters) - The United States plans to provide up to $2 billion in loan guarantees to Ukraine this year, the U.S. Treasury said on Tuesday, as part of a broader international package to stave off bankruptcy.

      Like other major donors to the country, Treasury said the guarantees would be contingent on the former Soviet republic remaining on track to meet the conditions of its loan program from the International Monetary Fund. IMF officials are in Kiev this week to resume negotiations on the package, currently worth $17 billion.

      Ukraine's government hopes the IMF's visit will lead to a bigger aid program as its economy has been pushed close to bankruptcy by a pro-Russian separatist war in the east and the government faces huge debt repayments.

      U.S. to back $2 billion in loan guarantees for Ukraine | Reuters

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      Quote Originally Posted by katsung47 View Post
      Captured Kiev soldiers, military hardware on display in Donetsk
      August 25 2014



      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tb5n...O6EbykFaB4wQZD
      Take note of the young girl at around 0:17. She has what looks like a confederate flag on her shirt. This is the group that is screaming at the captured soldiers aka mercenaries that have neo nazi ties and report to Washington.

      It's called a proxy

      Mainstream media keeps saying Russia is the aggressor etc. By the way there is a bunch of photos of new Ukrainian soldiers with swastikas and lightning bolts on their helmets etc.

      Washington wants the world to think Russia caused this problem, when in reality it was the US, yes my country that I live in that started this conflict and overthrew an elected president.

      It is odd that US media says Russia backed forces orchestrated this, when in reality it's not that hard to figure out.

      Burisma Holdings[edit]
      On April 18, 2014, it was announced that Biden would be joining the board of directors of Burisma Holdings,[45] a firm which owns several Ukrainian oil and gas companies[24] and is the country's largest non-governmental natural gas producer.[46] Biden became an acting director on May 12, 2014.[4] On Burisma's website, he wrote that he believed Burisma was important to the economy of Ukraine, and that he would be consulting "on matters of transparency, corporate governance and responsibility, international expansion and other priorities.”[45] Burisma appointed several other directors at that time, including Aleksander Kwaśniewski,[47] Vadym Pozharskyi, and financial manager Devon Archer,[48] who is a partner at Rosemont Seneca Partners along with Biden.[24]
      The appointments met with significant press coverage,[49][50][51][52] and critics argued that Biden's work for a country promoting Ukrainian energy independence was a blatant conflict of interest."[3] The White House dismissed nepotism charges,[49][50][53] but Melanie Sloan, the director of the non-profit organization Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington, stated that without "solid evidence that Hunter Biden got his job to influence American foreign policy, there’s no clear line that has been crossed.”[54] Morgan Williams, director of the US-Ukraine Business Council, argued that while there was no evidence of a conflict, the appointment violated an "unspoken" American tradition which frowns on businesses "with links to active politics" associating with the family members of politicians.[53]

      above taken from wikipedia


      Joe Bidens son becomes a powerful energy of Ukraine, smells fishy eh

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