Thread: Meaninglessness Of Life

Ofcourse there is a perpose of life, the only goal is to be happy, and not worrie about the past or the future which don't exist and hide yourself in the present moment. take up lucid dreaming or anyother hobbie and get the most out of it, thats really all there is to life. it's what ever you make it, in more simplier terms whatever you define reality is what reality is. Take for example somebody calls you a jerk, if your definition of jerk doesn't inlcude you, then you arn't a jerk to yourself your just a jerk in there perspective, sorry for the crappy example thats all I could think of.

also this site helped me alot to deal with unhealthy thinking http://www.mindpowernews.com/Articles.htm

Make something of life. If you find it meaningless, give it meaning.

I find extreme sports do a whole lot for your life. Giving myself an adrenalin rush regularly seems to make me generally feel much better all the time. Martial Arts, Rock Climbing, Offroading, Bungee Jumping, Skydiving, Snowboarding. At first I wouldnt recomend Martial Arts or Snowboarding. Competitive sports seem to have a habit of making people angry or seem to give people a bigger tendency to get pissed off easier.

If money is a problem, friends always can be there to help. Just talking to people you can relate to is always good. Tell someone about any problems your having. Getting things out in the open can be a HUGE relief.

LDG has a great point. The most important thing is to have fun and be happy. Things would probably seem less meaningless if you took up more hobbies and found more interests you could follow. As long as we're alive we'll most likely never find a real meaning or point to life, so for now we may as well just lay back and enjoy it.

"and every day I am more convinced that people who do not first wrestle with nature never succeed ". --- Vincent van Gough

Thank you for all the help. Reading back over the OP I was in a much different state of mind to how I am now, and it seems stupid and crudely written.

I am just pissed because of the reasons I gave there and because any true meaning I find is limited, as though only a certain amount is being fed to us, or me at least, I can't speak for everyone because things always change including other people. Still I fear a meaningless life and I can have fun and be happy but there is always a guilt that I am ignoring the importance of being alive. I still don't know what, and I fear dying without ever realizing. But what seems even worse is what is ahead of me, a mundane, strenuous working life at best. What is the point? it's about time we were revealed something more. I need it now.

Follower, please do share your thoughts here. I would like to hear them, but I won't respond to this thread much longer. It's a bitch signing in anonymous, I don't really post here but wanted to hear all of your perspectives on meaninglessness. Because when you take away those temporary fullfillments that make us happy throughout our day there is a large void, and that is only scratching the surface of these problems. So what to do?

Meaninglessness.

It's a big problem, and not just for you, but for a lot of people.

Temporary fulfillment and entertainment are like painkillers. Temporary enjoyment helps to escape the pain, not take it away. It treats the illness, not the cause. If people go through life living each day as it comes, working, living a mundane life with no real meaning other than temporary enjoyment and escapism... what kind of a life is that?

So, what is the solution? Well, easy: Find a meaning. Find something to live for, to give your life meaning, something you can derive perpetual satisfaction and happiness from. A... "religion", if you will.

For me, that "religion" is history. At least, that's the main one. There are a few others unrelated and associated also. I was lucky, I had my "religion" discovered in high school, when my history teacher singled me out of the whole class, gave me extra assignments, made me work my ass off, etc. I wass kind of pissed off at him at the time, but, I saw what he was doing. It took me a while to realsie it, though, and what it meant.

The point is: you need to look at your life, what you have done, and figure out what it is that drives you, what makes you "click". Sometimes, somebody close to you will recognise it before you do. Other times, it takes a while to figure it out.

What can your religion be?

Well, it could be an actual religion.
Or a passion or talent, like history, art, writing, mathematics, science, etc.
It could be a person. Somebody to love, to live for and live with, to have a family with.
It could be a goal, like knowing as much about the world as you can, or helping people when they deserve it.
It could be a hobby. Like, lucid dreaming, etc.

But, don't look for it, or search for it. Just be more aware, watch yourself, your feelings, when you feel happy, and what makes you happy at those times. Try to find a pattern. Eventually, if you are aware of yourself and how your mind works, you'll figure out what makes you "click".

i know what u are experiencing. i experienced the same thing like a year ago for 4 days. those were the most miserable days of my life. then i realized that like is not about the big similarity of all the people: get up go to work/school go home and go to sleep. i realized that life is about the big differences, like weekend activities, going camping, for example, the small pleasures in life, like something special for lunch. the love and joy that you experience. life is about adventure. for example, don't go to work by your usual route, go for example, through some other area,


a year ago i was miserable, but now, i live with the most joy possible. i cannot stop thanking everyone and everything for everything and anything they have done. i thank god that i exist and am well. i enjoy the small things, like having a special lunch, wearing warm boots (its like 30 Farenheit here). i count my blessings. i meditate and do yoge, you should try that. you must get over yourself, or at least give it time. try self hypnosis to convince yourself that life has a point. life is about doing somehting new everyday. that might not be possible, but you should try. i, for one believe that i cannot be any happier. i learned to appreciate everything. you must learn to love yourself and others.


hope this hepled!

i believe that life is doesn't have a purpose... but it certainly isn't meaningless...


but think on the bright side:

-there is no purpose
-i do not have to fulfil the purpose
-so i can do anything i'd like to do (except morally wrong stuff, of course)


go do something fun!

or MAKE yourself a meaning to life, go get yourself a purpose...

because my other post hasn't arrived here yet, i decide to double post, and then to edit my stuff later into 1 post...

so:


WHY SHOULD I WORK?????

why should anyone work???


well... guess what?
if the baker stopped working, we wouldn't have bread to eat...
if the doctor stopped working, we would all die of some horrible desease one day...
if the scientists stopped working, africa could die out because of AIDS (i'm exaggerating, but you know what i mean... also: if i've hurt someone's feelings with this, tell me and i'll delete this)...


LIFE DOESN'T HAVE A PURPOSE, but EVERYONE DOES HAVE A PURPOSE IN HUMAN SOCIETY!!!!!!!!&#3 3;!!!!

we humans have made ourselves a society, the most sophisticated and developed one on earth... but now, we can only rely on this society... if the things described above happen, we would not be able to maintain our species, and humanity would die out...

even if you'd only work as a cleaner, you still manage to maintain abit of this society... (yes, i know it sounds strange, but still)


LIFE DOESN'T HAVE A PURPOSE

BUT YOU HAVE!!!!!!!!!& #33;!!!!!!!!!& #33;!!!!!!!!!& #33;!!!!!!!!!& #33;!!

I hate limits in life. Why can't we just be in one big lucid dream all the time how awesome would that be! Life is meaningless I believe and the dreams that we were inspired to have as children are useless unless you wanted to be a school teacher or work at a convienient store your whole life because then that's reachable. We'll spend the time we should be spending on having fun and doing amazing things working all of our lives until we're 70 years old then we won't have much time to do anything. I can't convince you life is great because I can't convince myself of that either. Find something you love and perfect it that's the only joy I find in life and I hope you can do the same.

Originally Posted by Anonymous42

I'm looking down very meaningless road. I have to work my *** off for another 40 years just to stay alive. I really don't even want that much, only to have a bed and some shelter to appreciate this existence for what it is, I don't even care about food that much. Goals to me have absolutely zero relevance when there is NOTHING TO DO. Still to attain only the very basic neccessities that we're born into means a life of slave labour, and for what? i still don't know why i'm here. i am going to die someday and my life might not amount to anything, so what is the use of this? If there is reason why i am here, i should know!. I would sometimes just prefer to RIP, kill myself before the inevitabe toll of society finds me in prison due to 'crimes' of the unfortunate. I admit i don't want to work, why would i? why does anyone? why are we here? One thing i don't ever want to do with my life is add to this f**king system that will leave me broken, indebted. I must leave home soon, i dont have a job, i don't know how i'm going to survive. I see signs all the time that remind me reality is not what it seems. Signs that my life does have meaning far beyond what i've been lead to believe. Constant synergy, things that i can't even speak of because if i do i risk being laughed at(a form of torture, whether you realize it or not), labelled insane, a threat, the reason why you have to pay taxes. I fear being improsoned or restrained in an institution, where putting an end to it all is not even possible. if this life is supposed to be a joke, IT'S NOT FUNNY!! if this is a dream then wake me up, i don't want it anymore!


This is anonymous!! so respect people's right to privacy, aswell as their right to speak! thank-you

If this helps at all, I feel your pain and your not alone.

The Four Noble Truths of Buddhism are:

1. Life means suffering.
2. The origin of suffering is attachment.
3. The cessation of suffering is attainable.
4 The path to the cessation of suffering.

Don't think of a job like slave labour for the system, think of it like the talent you give to the world. If that's too hard, perhaps you need a different job.

Plain and simple: Read a book by Viktor Frankl. For example: "Man's search for meaning" or a compilation of text excerpts of his. This man is to me the most important person in the field of "the meaning of XYZ". Read his stuff, it's very insightful.

Or, if you prefer that, become some frustrated, stuck up bitter nihilist and kill yourself at the age of 40. If that's your plan in life, all the power to you.

Also try Erich Fromm (To Have to To Be). Smart man.

Anonymous42 you sound like a situationist! rad as fuck!

Originally Posted by DoomedOne

Don't think of a job like slave labour for the system, think of it like the talent you give to the world. If that's too hard, perhaps you need a different job.

more like selling your time. don't be for sale.
more like the money you make for someone else. All they give you is all you need to keep working (you get to pay for a house, food and transportation) so you can sleep eat and get back to work. and its practically compulsory how else will you survive? a life vs. a living. Don’t beg for the right to live, take it. ...you can never get the time you were making someone else rich back. so what can we do?

Hey folks, I'm going to go ahead and move this thread due to the fact that A-42 is no longer a member, therefore will not be responding to all your input.

I do think the topic itself may merit further discussion so it will now live here in extended discussion for those of you who would like to continue the topic.

Have a nice day!
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I went through a stage similar to that. Join the damn army. Go see the most fucked up things this world has to offer. That will make you feel alive.

Not to mention all the benefits the army offers. They'll set you up for life.

Really, when you look back on it, life is what you make it. If it's meaningless, it's meaningless. If it's full of mystery and wonder, it'll be that.

There is no meaning of life but the meaning you yourself give it.

Life doesn't need a higher meaning, your personal meaning you give to life is what matters. Enjoy the fact that you are capable of enjoying sunsets, nature, conversations. It doesn't matter what the goal is, if there is any goal, as long as you feel good about it.

I mean, lets say there Was a goal in life, would knowledge of that goal Matter? I don't see why you can't enjoy a life without a higher meaning with a whole bunch of fun.

Fun is fun, no matter whether it has a 'real' meaning or not! Fun can't be more real than it already is!

Good luck!

Yeah ever since you're born into this mentally diseased world you need to do this and that and such and so. Get a Job, get a degree, get a this and get a that. But not once is it ever important to all those greedy people asking you to do all those things what it is YOU want in this Life.

Society demands you to offer all you have to it since birth, which is where I can't help but protest and ask: "What has society to offer ME?". It's why so many people these days are depressed because their dreams, their personal desires, are crushed and rendered meaningless.

I will continue to follow my dreams even if it will defenitely kill me, because I refuse to give away all I have to a society that only wishes to benefit from me: My life is all I have.

That is the meaning of MY life
What's your's?

Originally Posted by shark!

Anonymous42 you sound like a situationist! rad as fuck!




more like selling your time. don't be for sale.
more like the money you make for someone else. All they give you is all you need to keep working (you get to pay for a house, food and transportation) so you can sleep eat and get back to work. and its practically compulsory how else will you survive? a life vs. a living. Don’t beg for the right to live, take it. ...you can never get the time you were making someone else rich back. so what can we do?

That's only because our economy rules people by fear. You can't survive comfortably without going to college, you can't survive the debt after college without immediatly getting a job you hate. The only way to be ab le to enjoy your work, it seems, is to face the fear and just go for what you really want to do.