Quote Originally Posted by becomingagodo View Post
see personal and social evidence is not proof you have nothing but your own assumption that above our proberly wrond at least i got some evidence backing me. it kind of like this you can agree with the one with evidence or the one without it even if in your mind it subjective. see the evidence might be subjective but that just means it incomplete the evidence point far away from fraudien belife and subconscious crap in this state in unlikely to be proven wrong and if it does change it would be a slight variation. i have warrent for my belife you havent.
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For starters:


1) http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3077505/
Every day, the people in the study played several hours of the computer game Tetris, which requires directing falling blocks into the correct positions as they reach the bottom of the screen. At night, the amnesiacs didn’t remember playing the game. But, they did describe seeing falling, rotating blocks while they were falling asleep.
A second group of players with normal memories reported seeing the same images.
Therefore, Stickgold’s research team concluded, dreams must come from the types of memory amnesiacs do have, which are called “implicit memories.” These are memories that scientists can measure even when individuals don’t know that they have them.
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Another type of implicit memory uses “semantic” knowledge, and resides in different parts of the brain, including a region called the neocortex. Semantic knowledge involves general, abstract concepts. Both groups of Tetris players, for example, only described seeing blocks, falling and rotating, and evidently did not see a desk, room, or computer screen, or feel their fingers on the keyboard.
Without help from the hippocampus, new semantic memories are too weak to be intentionally recalled. But they can still affect your behavior - for example, causing you to buy a certain brand of something you saw in an advertisement you don’t remember.
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2) http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIP.../i_ins.01.html

“BARRETT: Yes, and so what dreams are probably best at is getting unstuck, because they think so outside the box in ways that we would just go, oh, well, that's not the way to solve the problem awake and dreams take all kinds of approaches. “[/b]
3) http://archives.thedaily.washington.edu/19...6/sub10196.html


Yale University psychology professor John Kihlstrom, an authority on unconscious cognition, said, "Professor Greenwald's study provides the best evidence for subliminal perception ever produced in 100 years of people trying, invulnerable to the usual methodological criticisms that beset research in this area."[/b]
4) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unconscious_communication

Haven’t had a chance to read through the next one yet, but I’ll post it because I’m familiar with schema theory and, if this article presents it the way I think it does, it should give a lot of insight into unconscious (subconscious) thought process.
5) http://www.kihd.gmu.edu/immersion/knowledg...chemaTheory.htm

6) Link:The Cognitive Unconscious

Haven’t gotten through this one yet, either, but I might as well post it. I’ll get around to reading the rest of it later. But I’ve pulled out a quote you might want to consider.
7) http://209.85.135.104/search?q=cache:_l0a6...=clnk&cd=48]Link:Unconscious Subjectivity[/URL]

I argue that although all consciousness is subjective in this
sense, not all subjective mental states are conscious since a person may remain unaware
of them.
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Damn, I didn’t realize how many of these I found. I’ve still got half a page of links. I’m not going to post any more until I get a chance to read over some of them, to make sure they’re all relevant.