Thread: Why Are Americans So Angry?

Originally Posted by Half/Dreaming

Over 3000 dead civilians is a hell of a lot more than a "statement"

No, actually it isn't. It's very bad, sure. But an attack almost implies it had some sort of tactical goal or something. I don't think you can just use 'attack' when it comes to politics. The word has just been used because it's a strong word. But the dead people are part of the statement. An attack is more of an act of war. I don't think bin laden really though he would ever totally cripple America's infrastructure and such.

This is how I see it:

Statement: Blowing up statue
Attack: a tactical strike against a country's infrastructural, economical and military stuff with as goal to hurt the country.

9/11 was somewhere in between. It didn't really hurt your country that bad, enough offices to go around in Manhattan.

First of all, the constant conflict between Jews and Muslims for over 2000 years is the ultimate cause of violence, and has led to every foreign intervention.

What the hell? Religions have been butchering each other all over the world since the dawn of civilisation. A huge Jewish lobby in your government doesn't give you a free-pass to mess things up in the middle-east and claim 'they attacked us for no reason'.

The problems in the Middle East are related to European intervention there, dating back all the way to the Crusades and maybe even farther. This also includes England's intervention in the area. America's history in the Middle East started after WW2 when we gave Israel to the Jews. There was senseless violence over the Gaza strip that never resolved itself, so we decided to draw boundaries. This was seen by Muslims as an unfair act by Christians to their Jewish friends, instead of the attempt to create peace that it was meant to be. It has snowballed ever since then. In the end, all problems in the Middle East stem from the selfishness and spite of fanatical Muslims and Jews. Our attempts to create peace there were seen as an act of agression. Their selfishness and racism against Jews is the cause of turmoil.

Well, you did give the Jews a Shitload of weapons and HUGE amounts of money. All that, while they Jews in Israel never really acted fair and balanced. Actually, sometimes Israel acts like a giant douche.

That 2000-year war is of course bullshit. Muslims and jews haven't been systematically killing each other for 2000 years. Actually, they only are now, in the gaza-strip. It's a 59-year old conflict, since isreal was created, and you backed them up with a shitload of weapons, and you kept backing them up, and doing other shit beside that.

America's fault was, to just give Israel more and more money, while it was pushing it's borders. And it still is. Israel is claiming more and more land, funded with your money. The hopelessness, the ability to do anything, just mentally obliterates the innocent people in Palestine, making them turn to religious extremism.

America should have stop funding when it became overly appearant peace was going to be impossible, the way both parties acted. Acted like retards, that is.

It like 600 dollar per Israeli per year you are giving, you know that? It's just silly. Ha. It's like communism, giving away money

ARMS DEALERS, are the richest bunch in the country right now. they have a bussiness to run, they have government influences to keep wars going so they sell their arms

Originally Posted by ranma187

ARMS DEALERS, are the richest bunch in the country right now. they have a bussiness to run, they have government influences to keep wars going so they sell their arms

Not only do they have government influences, they are the government. Lynne Cheney, Dick Cheney's wife was on the board of directors for Lockheed-Martin; one of the primary private military suppliers in our country.

'When the Bush administration first took office, it appointed 32 executives, paid consultants, or major shareholders of weapons contractors to top policymaking positions in the Pentagon, the National Security Council, the Department of Energy (involved in nuclear weapons development), and the State Department.'(http://www.worldpolicy.org/projects/...sThatBind.html)

Originally Posted by Neruo

No, actually it isn't. It's very bad, sure. But an attack almost implies it had some sort of tactical goal or something. I don't think you can just use 'attack' when it comes to politics. The word has just been used because it's a strong word. But the dead people are part of the statement. An attack is more of an act of war. I don't think bin laden really though he would ever totally cripple America's infrastructure and such.

This is how I see it:

Statement: Blowing up statue
Attack: a tactical strike against a country's infrastructural, economical and military stuff with as goal to hurt the country.

9/11 was somewhere in between. It didn't really hurt your country that bad, enough offices to go around in Manhattan.



What the hell? Religions have been butchering each other all over the world since the dawn of civilisation. A huge Jewish lobby in your government doesn't give you a free-pass to mess things up in the middle-east and claim 'they attacked us for no reason'.



Well, you did give the Jews a Shitload of weapons and HUGE amounts of money. All that, while they Jews in Israel never really acted fair and balanced. Actually, sometimes Israel acts like a giant douche.

That 2000-year war is of course bullshit. Muslims and jews haven't been systematically killing each other for 2000 years. Actually, they only are now, in the gaza-strip. It's a 59-year old conflict, since isreal was created, and you backed them up with a shitload of weapons, and you kept backing them up, and doing other shit beside that.

America's fault was, to just give Israel more and more money, while it was pushing it's borders. And it still is. Israel is claiming more and more land, funded with your money. The hopelessness, the ability to do anything, just mentally obliterates the innocent people in Palestine, making them turn to religious extremism.

America should have stop funding when it became overly appearant peace was going to be impossible, the way both parties acted. Acted like retards, that is.

It like 600 dollar per Israeli per year you are giving, you know that? It's just silly. Ha. It's like communism, giving away money

The war between Jews and Muslims has been raging for even more than 2000 years, actually, a whole lot longer. Do you know anything about it? The dissagreement between Jews and Muslims stems all the way to Abraham's sons, Ishmael and Issac. Ishmael was the first son, even though it wasn't with Abraham's wife (with Hagar, a female servant). Without going more into it, Muslims believe the first son was the one God promised, Jews believe it was the second. Since God/Allah promised the true son the land of Israel, both religions think they are entitled to the land. The Jews expelled the inhabitants of the land when they were freed from Egypt. The expelled people were the ancestors of Muslims, and they are angry about it.

I'm not going to pretend i care about who's land it is. All that matters is that in like 4000 years, they havent resolved the conflict by themselves. They are both stubborn. I know its easier for you to blame the US, but it is not true.

Heres a funny fact. Both sons were promised a nation (Hebrew and Islam) According to the bible, God said (about Ishmael) "his hand shall be against every man, and every man's hand against him". Sounds a lot like what jihad has done.

Originally Posted by Neruo

Statement: Blowing up statue
Attack: a tactical strike against a country's infrastructural, economical and military stuff with as goal to hurt the country.

Your definition of attack is exactly what Al Qaeda claims the 9/11 attacks (not the "9/11 statements") were about. They were, according to them, trying to cripple the U.S. economy and incite a war between the Middle East and the West. They did screw up our stock market and airline travel numbers for a little while, but the big result was that two Islamofascist governments got overthrown. Despite Al Qaeda's claims, I think the 9/11 attacks were really about cave men who were jealous as Hell of the results of capitalism and wanted to lash out against power while getting power for themselves. That's the Al Qaeda leaders I am talking about there. The people who actually committed suicide to kill thousands of innocent people were just brainwashed dumbasses with nothing to live for. If Al Qaeda wants to pull that shit again, we will be glad to take over a few more countries. Idiots.